Worst drought in Africa in 60 years.

[Dennisch]

The worst drought in 60 years has hit the horn of Africa. Horn.

People are dying of hunger and thirst, but it seems like to be nothing new, at least in my eyes. As long as I can remember this has been going on.

I see only 2 solutions for this problem :

Multiply the aid efforts by 10 or more.
Stop all aid.

As the first option will never happen, which is totally ridiculous, as Greece is being "saved" with hundreds of billions of euros, for something the entire country is to blame for, and the extra money for the Horn is roughly 100 million euro.

And the second will also never happen, as it is inhuman.

It looks like all the efforts going on now are to keep the people barely alive.
I feel ashamed to say that I just can't care anymore with what is going on in Africa, as we, the rich countries, just don't seem to care.

How do you feel about this, and what would your solution be?

 

[alexleighton]

They've populated themselves into starvation. Why does it make sense to have a child when you can't even feed yourself?

Famine is nature's way of controlling populations which are not controlled by predators or are unable to control themselves, and maybe I'm just a cold hearted monster, but I don't think sending them aid is doing them any favors.

 

[BrutherSuperior]

I see only 2 solutions for this problem :

Multiply the aid efforts by 10 or more.
Stop all aid.

As the first option will never happen, which is totally ridiculous, as Greece is being "saved" with hundreds of billions of euros, for something the entire country is to blame for, and the extra money for the Horn is roughly 100 million euro.

And the second will also never happen, as it is inhuman.

It looks like all the efforts going on now are to keep the people barely alive.
I feel ashamed to say that I just can't care anymore with what is going on in Africa, as we, the rich countries, just don't seem to care.

How do you feel about this, and what would your solution be?

I don't think the 2nd option is inhuman...not at all.

Aid enters the country, is robbed by those in power, the people who it was supposed to help are no better off, those in power use the power of PR to ask for more aid so they can embezzle it.

The problem is drought, it's the tyrants that run the place. They're not going to leave as long as the $$$ keeps rolling in and the people will continue to suffer as long as tyrants rule the land.

 

[tw99]

Human race is a virus, hope nature finds a cure soon enough.

 

[Prosthetic]

Human race is a virus, hope nature finds a cure soon enough.

Yes, because the Human race wasn't created naturally or anything. A beam of light came from the sky and we also just suddenly appeared with our cars and big screen TVs.

 

[rocko100]

Famine is nature's way of controlling populations which are not controlled by predators or are unable to control themselves, and maybe I'm just a cold hearted monster, but I don't think sending them aid is doing them any favors.

Who knew that he is so powerful.

I personally beleive that something should be done but it pains me to know that not much can

 

[Crispy]

They've populated themselves into starvation. Why does it make sense to have a child when you can't even feed yourself?

Famine is nature's way of controlling populations which are not controlled by predators or are unable to control themselves, and maybe I'm just a cold hearted monster, but I don't think sending them aid is doing them any favors.

Exactly. Hard to believe but America and much of Europe will be in the same position in the next thousand years, while Africa will be in the same position as we are in now, and Asia will probably be recovering from something just like it.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Hard to believe but America and much of Europe will be in the same position in the next thousand years,

I would agree, but then again, America and Europe were the colonisers who kept many countries in Africa as resource/ slave pits and denied them the chance to modernise. Lack of industrial revolution until a couple of decades ago means those countries now suffer a lack of resources to support their own populations.

There is no easy solution.

 

[Dennisch]

24 hours, and only 7 replies. Exactly what I thought, nobody gives a crap about Africa anymore.

 

[Joel]

Or perhaps people spent their Sunday doing things other than posting on GTPlanet?

 

[disinfected]

Worst drought in the middle of the US since 1921 as well. It's a global issue this year.

 

[PureAwesomeness]

24 hours, and only 7 replies. Exactly what I thought, nobody gives a crap about Africa anymore.

Maybe it's just because the majority of people come here to talk about Gran Turismo and GT related stuff. Who are you to say that the people here don't care about Africa? I don't see how talking about it on a video game forum is going to help the situation one bit.

 

[Keef]

Multiply the aid efforts by 10 or more.
Stop all aid.

As the first option will never happen, which is totally ridiculous, as Greece is being "saved" with hundreds of billions of euros, for something the entire country is to blame for, and the extra money for the Horn is roughly 100 million euro.

And the second will also never happen, as it is inhuman.

The second option is the only moral option of the two. Also, it won't contribute to the bankruptcy of other nations. That's a doozie.

 

[Bdx]

24 hours, and only 7 replies. Exactly what I thought, nobody gives a crap about Africa anymore.

You could always sell off your PC and other non essentials and donate it to help, instead of posting on here trying to for some reason make others feel guilty!

If you post back then i guess you dont care either!

 

[Dotini]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14271539

Here's a rational look at the problem.

 

[Nero9]

Who knew that he is so powerful.

That's why you don't mess with him. 👍

They've populated themselves into starvation. Why does it make sense to have a child when you can't even feed yourself?

Famine is nature's way of controlling populations which are not controlled by predators or are unable to control themselves, and maybe I'm just a cold hearted monster, but I don't think sending them aid is doing them any favors.

Seconded.

 

[176OES]

Ahhh religion... I knew if I read the article I would find it involved in there somewhere

+1 for the dont care brigade.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

I know where the whater is, it's coming down all here in Germany. The worst summer since years. Only cold, cloudy & very wet here.

My solution for Africa:

sterilize all Africans (HIV/AIDS in Africa), split the population into 2 groups (aids/aids free), more investments into the health care system, more investments into the business system (so they can get a job & don't think 24h/day about sex, sex & sex).

20 years later Africa could be shiny place. 👍

 

[Keef]

My solution for Africa:

sterilize all Africans (HIV/AIDS in Africa)

That's not at all against your beloved Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

split the population into 2 groups (aids/aids free)

Pretty sure segregation is also a perfectly legal and moral solution.

more investments into the health care system

Why would anybody offer healthcare to people who can't afford to pay for it?

more investments into the business system

Why would anybody create a business in a part of the world that is almost entirely undesirable, and where the general populace has no means of supporting said business in the first place. You think a business owner is going to make money by employing people but lacking anybody to buy his products?

(so they can get a job & don't think 24h/day about sex, sex & sex)

When the infant mortality rate is so drastically high as it is in much of Africa, the only way to sustain one's family/tribe/race/species is to make a whole lot of babies and hope some of them live long enough to reproduce. It's called nature, and it tends to happen.

 

[Danoff]

Africa's primary problem is a governmental one. The only way to bring prosperity to them (rather than bringing them to prosperity) is to go perform nation building exercises. Generally speaking this is unbelievably expensive and has a poor track record. They're going to have to help themselves by putting governments in place that enable prosperity.

Too much is made of natural resources on this forum. Any of our countries would be in similar situations if we had the same government structure they do.

 

[bass264]

The worst drought in 60 years has hit the horn of Africa. Horn.

People are dying of hunger and thirst, but it seems like to be nothing new, at least in my eyes. As long as I can remember this has been going on.

I see only 2 solutions for this problem :

Multiply the aid efforts by 10 or more.
Stop all aid.

As the first option will never happen, which is totally ridiculous, as Greece is being "saved" with hundreds of billions of euros, for something the entire country is to blame for, and the extra money for the Horn is roughly 100 million euro.

And the second will also never happen, as it is inhuman.

It looks like all the efforts going on now are to keep the people barely alive.
I feel ashamed to say that I just can't care anymore with what is going on in Africa, as we, the rich countries, just don't seem to care.

How do you feel about this, and what would your solution be?

Throwing money at something doesn't fix problems, there's too much problems to try to fix, (AIDS). At this point in time, not even if all the rich people in the world donated money to help Africa would it become a developing or developed nation. Look at the history of Africa, it's horrible yet Africa has probably has more gold than any other continent on Earth. It just shows that valuable things on a continent don't contribute to a better standard of living for the continent's inhabits. I don't mean to sound cold hearted but AIDS and other diseases are so frequent in the average population it isn't logical to invest huge amounts of money in Africa because so many people are dying and that are still alive are making more children and don't have any sort of education whatsoever to be productive(I mean contributing to the economy). There's no solution to help Africa...

 

[CodeRedR51]

+1 for the dont care brigade.

+2.

I care more about getting my own life in line right now than worrying about people halfway around the world.

 

[Dennisch]

Or perhaps people spent their Sunday doing things other than posting on GTPlanet?

Could be.

Maybe it's just because the majority of people come here to talk about Gran Turismo and GT related stuff. Who are you to say that the people here don't care about Africa? I don't see how talking about it on a video game forum is going to help the situation one bit.

That's why this thread is in the Opinions and current events forum?
Look at the other thread in this subforum, and you will understand. 👎

You could always sell off your PC and other non essentials and donate it to help, instead of posting on here trying to for some reason make others feel guilty!

If you post back then i guess you dont care either!

No, no, read the first post again, I actually don't care about it, as it's been going on for quite some time now.

+2.

I care more about getting my own life in line right now than worrying about people halfway around the world.

+ half the world I think.

 

[p-coletray]

Noone reads the paper anymore? The charities and humanitarian efforts are blocked my Militia's. The refugees are trapped, the land that the people used to go to during draughts are either privatized by rich corporations from rich countries, or wildlife preserves, so the options are limited and the poverty is abundant.

2 things are the real issue: Unbridled Greed and Power.

It's not AIDS or population control, or uneducation. Sounds like a bunch of Communists and Nazi's chiming in. The education we have helps us to get into technology, exploit weaker economies and become consumers. Big whoop, what a great existance, haha.

If these people were allowed to have stability and peace, they'd be just fine. Probably be breathing cleaner air and eating better food also. Theres actually alot of stable African countries, and a few very dangerous and famished ones.

The issue is an age old problem, the wrong people with weapons and hatred are in charge and have been for a long time, probably always will be.

 

[ShaneG]

I think it's a bit silly to feel bad for people who live in the most inhospitable parts of the planet by choice.

Instead of wasting large amounts of money to ship food & water to these people,

they should use that money to move them to places that have water, and land suitable for farming.

If they insist on remaining where they are,

then at least explain to them how dumb it is to reproduce in their situation,

and then best of luck to them.

We all have enough of our own problems now that are hard enough to solve,

without having to worry about a people who haven't contributed anything useful to the human race in a few hundred thousand years.

 

[p-coletray]

Really? Where are you going to move them to? Maybe Antartica where the fields are green and plentiful or what about the moon?

Please, get educated, theeennnn comment. And no more eugenics or genocididal commentary, move to China, let them evaluate whether your gene pool should exist, enjoy.

You and me, born with running water and grocery stores.
Them, born with infected water, warfare, mass rape, fleeing from armies,no chance in life, occasional rice, no PS3, Day in, day out.

 

[ShaneG]

Really? Where are you going to move them to? Maybe Antartica where the fields are green and plentiful or what about the moon?

Please, get educated, theeennnn comment. And no more eugenics or genocididal commentary, move to China, let them evaluate whether your gene pool should exist, enjoy.

You and me, born with running water and grocery stores.
Them, born with infected water, warfare, mass rape, fleeing from armies,no chance in life, occasional rice, no PS3, Day in, day out.

Wow, aren't you the local opinion police.

I didn't say kill them off, or breed them out of existence.

I simply pointed out how dumb it is to keep having kids in nations with no water or food,

and then expect the rest of the world to cater to your every need.

Africa is a pretty damn big place,

I'm sure there's more than enough room for them to move to areas there that have water & fertile soil,

unless I'm mistaken in thinking that all of the jungle areas there are currently populated to the breaking point already.

But you go right on ahead and send your money to these people, and I'm sure one day, they might actually get some of it,

rather than those armies you pointed out stealing it all. We're probably propagating that crap by sending money, food, & water.


Our countries once had none of the modern conveniences we have today, and so our nations strove to change that,

theirs haven't, and worse yet, they've remained in lands where it's impossible to achieve.

When our peoples decided that where they lived sucked...

THEY MOVED!

 

[DK]

Do you honestly think that they have the money to move? And don't forget the militias who might think that they're supporters of the enemy...

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

They've populated themselves into starvation. Why does it make sense to have a child when you can't even feed yourself?

Famine is nature's way of controlling populations which are not controlled by predators or are unable to control themselves, and maybe I'm just a cold hearted monster, but I don't think sending them aid is doing them any favors.

Very well said. 👍

 

[p-coletray]

Wow, aren't you the local opinion police.

I didn't say kill them off, or breed them out of existence.

I simply pointed out how dumb it is to keep having kids in nations with no water or food,

and then expect the rest of the world to cater to your every need.

Africa is a pretty damn big place,

I'm sure there's more than enough room for them to move to areas there that have water & fertile soil,

unless I'm mistaken in thinking that all of the jungle areas there are currently populated to the breaking point already.

But you go right on ahead and send your money to these people, and I'm sure one day, they might actually get some of it,

rather than those armies you pointed out stealing it all. We're probably propagating that crap by sending money, food, & water.


Our countries once had none of the modern conveniences we have today, and so our nations strove to change that,

theirs haven't, and worse yet, they've remained in lands where it's impossible to achieve.

When our peoples decided that where they lived sucked...

THEY MOVED!

Move? Move. Really. Move. Again, read more, opinionize afterward. I could write a book as to why that's not possible, or you could read an article, maybe pay attention to the news, learn a little world history. And FYI - women are property usually, like a camel, so whether their body produces a baby after rape is kinda beyond their control. Others just don't have any birth control.

Money and supplies is a temporary releif, the real issue is leadership and corruption. Unfortunately since our countries spent centuries preying on that continent, stealing or destroying the very best of their people, animals, diamonds, gold, land, etc. they don't have alot of product, education, water, etc. to go around. There is a civil duty involved, a moral obligation. It's pathetic to deny that fact and state: "your problemo. Stop 🤬 ing eachother. Die off already,"