Would Polyphony need loads of permission to get Le Mans into the game?

[Msportvideos]

I was wondering how difficult it would be to get the whole Le Mans series into the game, i know they would have licensing issues but can it really be that hard to get them as this is the 'best simulator' game of all time?

 

[ReverenceSatans]

They would need to license the series like they did with Nascar.

Getting all the required content to replicate the series would purely be down to time constraints.

 

[Coiler]

If GT would be developed in a EU studio it would be in ages ago, Japan studios have their own weird ways like PD does... Game that sells best on EU market is targeted for JP users...

 

[Tenacious D]

Game that sells best on EU market is targeted for JP users...

I know Europe has it's own conglomerate flavor, but as a yank, I'm fairly happy with Gran Turismo. Sort of. Like you guys, I'm hungry to see the series progress into the racing league thing, and I was watching the FIA GT3 thread pretty intently until it fizzled. Many of us are hoping that if Kaz incorporates NASCAR into GT6 he does something with it, but even more so, having all these Super GT, FIA GT, DTM cars, ALMS and LeMans Prototypes etc, provide us some events which are like mini-seasons of these various leagues.

Gran Turismo 3 had such a paltry number of cars that they had to make up for it with racing events, and late in the game, there were events 20 races long to complete, if I recall properly. Regardless, they were very long and quite enjoyable. GT6 really needs something like this. Hopefully, Kaz won't be relying solely on the online championship tools he's going to give us for that.

 

[Tyger]

How badly does it need the "official" licence really though? GT5 had La Sarthe, and I think a 24hr endurance event, and a bunch of LMPs and such (though admittedly they varied and weren't always a great match). Forza seems to be more up to date with LMPs, it has 4 or 5 Audis for a start, I don't see why GT6 can't follow suit. Bam, as close to Le Mans as you need, really.

 

[Coiler]

I know Europe has it's own conglomerate flavor, but as a yank, I'm fairly happy with Gran Turismo. Sort of. Like you guys, I'm hungry to see the series progress into the racing league thing, and I was watching the FIA GT3 thread pretty intently until it fizzled. Many of us are hoping that if Kaz incorporates NASCAR into GT6 he does something with it, but even more so, having all these Super GT, FIA GT, DTM cars, ALMS and LeMans Prototypes etc, provide us some events which are like mini-seasons of these various leagues.

Gran Turismo 3 had such a paltry number of cars that they had to make up for it with racing events, and late in the game, there were events 20 races long to complete, if I recall properly. Regardless, they were very long and quite enjoyable. GT6 really needs something like this. Hopefully, Kaz won't be relying solely on the online championship tools he's going to give us for that.

Yes, PD should just utilize the licenses they have, So many Super GT cars and just 3, yes THREE races in A-spec for them? Same thing with DTM...

As years go buy I seriously start to think that we need a Mark Cerny type of guy, to make from GT the game it should been from GT5

 

[freshseth83]

He would have to get in touch with the ACO and FIA (LeMans & WEC).

 

[wowbaggerBR]

I'm a total Le Mans fan and I think that PD could emulate the WEC season in the game. It's just eight races, so there aren't many tracks to do, and it is absolutely amazing kind of racing with LMP1, LMP2 prototypes, and, of course, those lovely GTE cars (specially Vantages V8!).

If they couldn't, I think that would be a good start just have access to more prototypes. Makes me envy see that Forza have all premium old prototypes and, through DLCs, even more recent cars, such as R18s and the Toyota.

 

[BoneSawTX]

I'm a ALMS/Grand-AM and WEC nut, which is why i gave in and got a xbox last January. Multi-class racing and cars that are still racing would help immensely. as of now I'm not in for gt6.

 

[sems4arsenal]

How badly does it need the "official" licence really though? GT5 had La Sarthe, and I think a 24hr endurance event, and a bunch of LMPs and such (though admittedly they varied and weren't always a great match). Forza seems to be more up to date with LMPs, it has 4 or 5 Audis for a start, I don't see why GT6 can't follow suit. Bam, as close to Le Mans as you need, really.

Exactly,just model the cars and have a 24 Hrs A-spec events.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Exactly,just model the cars and have a 24 Hrs A-spec events.

See, there is a way for it to be super easy. But most Gran Turismo fans probably wouldn't be down for it.

If you can't get a licence to produce certain cars, then create more of your own. I think PD's TC DLC pack was awesome.

Now, create their own prototypes that look like the real thing, give them pretty darn close to their real life specs, and give them the Gran Turismo racing livery and different colour/number opportunities.. and there you go!

PD could create so many different series out of the cars they have. Even if they weren't the official liveries, but the events existed I'd be all for it!

 

[Imari]

Exactly,just model the cars and have a 24 Hrs A-spec events.

No more 24 hour A-spec events. They're daft. No race should be longer than what an ordinary person can do without either getting thirsty or needing to go to the bathroom. If you have to pause to take care of nature, it's too long.

There are very few racing series where a single driver does more than about three hours straight under any but the most exceptional circumstances. 24 hours straight is just insane.

If they must have 24 hour events, bring B-spec drivers back into it.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

No more 24 hour A-spec events. They're daft.

Ah come on, where is your sense of adventure, your desire for undertaking the ultimate challenge.
Although, I have to admit, they do get pretty tedious.

No race should be longer than what an ordinary person can do without either getting thirsty or needing to go to the bathroom. If you have to pause to take care of nature, it's too long.

Thats why its called an "endurance" race.
Besides, you can save now and do it in several stints.
Unlike GT4, where you could only pause.
I had two 24 hr races wiped out in GT4, that were over half complete, due to very unopportune power failures.

If they must have 24 hour events, bring B-spec drivers back into it.

I don't have any problem with that.

 

[Samus]

The 24 hours races are boring because as I've said before, there is no actual test of endurance. It's just a standard GT race that goes 24 hours. There is no endurance test of the driver (Pause or Suspend) and no endurance of the car with no damage at all. Combine that with poor AI and you're in for a boring, unchallenging time.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

The 24 hours races are boring because as I've said before, there is no actual test of endurance. It's just a standard GT race that goes 24 hours. There is no endurance test of the driver (Pause or Suspend) and no endurance of the car with no damage at all. Combine that with poor AI and you're in for a boring, unchallenging time.

Maybe to you.

The 24h LeMans race was the most fun I had with GT5s crappy singleplayer.

I did this race in a stock R10, few days before the huge patch, which changed physics and included the track status icon, released.

Driving into the sunset in an open cockpit car with HUD turned off was one of my best memories I did this gen in gaming. I still remember all the fun I had when it started raining at night or when I was trying to best my lap times or try to get more laps out of the tires, testing different strategies etc... And the AI was not that bad. When I was like 3 laps ahead, my brother took over after I pitted, he wanted to race also. Well, he is more casual and has never played GT5 without TCS and only raced supercars, so it only take him few corners to kill my fresh tires. I lost most of my lead when I somehow tried to crawl back into the pits, so things still got very exciting.

The 24h races (and the first batch of seasonals where you could not use racing softs or overpower your car) are the few things I really liked about GT5s singleplayer mode...

 

[sems4arsenal]

See, there is a way for it to be super easy. But most Gran Turismo fans probably wouldn't be down for it.

If you can't get a licence to produce certain cars, then create more of your own. I think PD's TC DLC pack was awesome.

Now, create their own prototypes that look like the real thing, give them pretty darn close to their real life specs, and give them the Gran Turismo racing livery and different colour/number opportunities.. and there you go!

PD could create so many different series out of the cars they have. Even if they weren't the official liveries, but the events existed I'd be all for it!

As someone who would love to have aa new generation of FGTs I agree 👍

No more 24 hour A-spec events. They're daft. No race should be longer than what an ordinary person can do without either getting thirsty or needing to go to the bathroom. If you have to pause to take care of nature, it's too long.

There are very few racing series where a single driver does more than about three hours straight under any but the most exceptional circumstances. 24 hours straight is just insane.

If they must have 24 hour events, bring B-spec drivers back into it.

Agree with the last statement,however you can just invite your friends and replicate the event with driver changes,plus the enduro events don't have any significance in the progression of the game so don't mind them and yes like Samus mentioned they are fantasticly boring

 

[CarBastard]

None that they couldn't get, except for Porsche.

But honestly, Kaz is too...hmmm..."Ideosyncratic". And, anyways, they wouldn't get it right. Proof? They got WRC, NASCAR, SuperGT and TopGear licenses and they made nothing interesting out of them.

Still, I wish they prove me wrong, it'd be a more than welcome addition to GT.

 

[Jawehawk]

I would absolutely love having the Le mans series, however, I'm not sure how you can properly do it without multi class racing being supported. Also, they're missing a lot of cars from the series.

 

[ShiftingGears]

And, anyways, they wouldn't get it right. Proof? They got WRC, NASCAR, SuperGT and TopGear licenses and they made nothing interesting out of them.

Exactly.

 

[HKS racer]

If you want this kind of stuff Gran Turismo is not the game for you for so many reasons.
There is no multiclass racing, there is no interest in properly recreate any real life season in Gran Turismo because the owner thinks "it's not that important", etc.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Don't really care for this, nor does it seem that importent to me because I never liked Le Mans racing anyway.

GT racing and Rally racing over this.....

 

[ShiftingGears]

Don't really care for this, nor does it seem that importent to me because I never liked Le Mans racing anyway.

GT racing and Rally racing over this.....

I don't quite understand the point you are making. There's GT classes in the American Le Mans Series, European Le Mans Series, and World Endurance Championship.

I think GT would do a better job of sportscar racing than they would with rallying. That's not setting the bar very high though.

 

[Imari]

If you want this kind of stuff Gran Turismo is not the game for you for so many reasons.
There is no multiclass racing, there is no interest in properly recreate any real life season in Gran Turismo because the owner thinks "it's not that important", etc.

Are you serious?

GT hasn't had multiclass in the past, but to think that it will never include it? Last I checked, the 24 hours of Nurburgring that Kaz takes part in is multiclass.

Got a quote for Kaz thinking that recreating real life seasons in GT isn't important? I'm assuming that's who you're referring to by the owner of GT.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Are you serious?

GT hasn't had multiclass in the past, but to think that it will never include it? Last I checked, the 24 hours of Nurburgring that Kaz takes part in is multiclass. Got a quote for Kaz thinking that recreating real life seasons in GT isn't important? I'm assuming that's who you're referring to by the owner of GT.

The Nurburgring 24h also doesn't consist of Le Mans Prototype cars - and yet, what appears in the N24 event in GT5? The mere fact that Kaz participates in motor races does not indicate anything about the next GT game whatsoever.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I don't quite understand the point you are making. There's GT classes in the American Le Mans Series, European Le Mans Series, and World Endurance Championship.

Basically GT racing that aren't 24h, never liked it. Something like regular racing sort of.

 

[Imari]

The mere fact that Kaz participates in motor races does not indicate anything about the next GT game whatsoever.

True. It does indicate that he has some interest in multiclass racing though, which was the point that I was refuting.

Whether he has any interest in putting it in the game, I'll let HKS get back to me with the quote saying he doesn't do real life series.

 

[Pit Crew]

If you want this kind of stuff Gran Turismo is not the game for you for so many reasons.
There is no multiclass racing, there is no interest in properly recreate any real life season in Gran Turismo because the owner thinks "it's not that important", etc.

Hmmm, didn't Kaz "cut" his Racing teeth in Multi-Class racing? VLN I believe. I know it's Real life competition but it seems to have a place in his competitive spirit, so why not try and accurately portray this in a console Racing Game, 1 could say has been his lifes work ?

 

[PNuTButR]

To be honest, I'd just be happy if they had separate rules for 24h events that allowed more than 16 cars on the track.

 

[HKS racer]

Hmmm, didn't Kaz "cut" his Racing teeth in Multi-Class racing? VLN I believe. I know it's Real life competition but it seems to have a place in his competitive spirit, so why not try and accurately portray this in a console Racing Game, 1 could say has been his lifes work ?

I'll let HKS get back to me with the quote saying he doesn't do real life series.

What Kaz do in real life is not what you do in Gran Turismo. If he take part to VLN doesn't mean you have 16 VLN cars in Gran Turismo actually there is only Kaz car in GT5 and a bounch of GT3 cars for GT6.

 

[Imari]

What Kaz do in real life is not what you do in Gran Turismo. If he take part to VLN doesn't mean you have 16 VLN cars in Gran Turismo actually there is only Kaz car in GT5 and a bounch of GT3 cars for GT6.

Sorry, you misunderstood. I was referring to this.

...there is no interest in properly recreate any real life season in Gran Turismo because the owner thinks "it's not that important", etc.

Got a quote for Kaz thinking that recreating real life seasons in GT isn't important? I'm assuming that's who you're referring to by the owner of GT.

...I'll let HKS get back to me with the quote saying he doesn't do real life series.

Do you have a source for the owner of Gran Turismo (Kaz?) not thinking that it's important to recreate real life seasons in GT?