Would you skip GT5 if it does not have force feedback?

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would you leave GT5 alone if there is no force feedback?

  • yes

    Votes: 60 46.9%
  • no

    Votes: 68 53.1%

  • Total voters
    128
you all are biased on the fact that a simple function is not added into a gaming system, regardless of it being the next gen console, if they can't do it. then they can't do it. plain and simple. If u want FFB so bad, go drive your car everywhere. No definition like real definition. turn the wheel back yourself like you should be. and Honestly i could care less what people think about my post right now, because i am getting annoyed by similar topics and similar statements over and over. "Don't post here if you don't like it" well i just felt like speaking my mind right about now.

and yeah i agree with the guy above me, even though i don't have a wheel. The gameplay is all that matters. and if you can't drive without FFB then that says alot about your driving skills. "Good drivers" are suppose to be accustomed to all types of driving conditions otherwise they're not good drivers. :)
 
I there was no FFB, I would still get GT5 and support them...... but I would be highly dissapointed, to me it added soo much to GT4 and I look forward to G25 support (which isn't looking promising now :( )
 
Looks like people with no ps3 are more likely to turn on forza camp, if gt5 does not have FFB.(basically you get same deal for 300 less) For PS3 owners gt5 is of course a must.

Stunt Drifter: People wont buy wheels to be better players ,but because they want to be better drivers(try gt4 or LFS with G25 if you dont know what i mean).
 
That's gotta be about the lamest statement made concerning driving skills Stunt Drifter. Lack of FF is not a "driving condition" it's a total lack for the feel of the car and track, but I don't expect DS2 users to understand what wheel drivers mean.If you've never driven with a wheel you have no basis to discuss it. And with 3 Silver licenses and no Golds you have alot of balls questioning driving skills.:) Run some series and get a driving reputation before you rag on others driving skills.
 
you all are biased on the fact that a simple function is not added into a gaming system, regardless of it being the next gen console, if they can't do it. then they can't do it. plain and simple. If u want FFB so bad, go drive your car everywhere. No definition like real definition. turn the wheel back yourself like you should be. and Honestly i could care less what people think about my post right now, because i am getting annoyed by similar topics and similar statements over and over. "Don't post here if you don't like it" well i just felt like speaking my mind right about now.

and yeah i agree with the guy above me, even though i don't have a wheel. The gameplay is all that matters. and if you can't drive without FFB then that says alot about your driving skills. "Good drivers" are suppose to be accustomed to all types of driving conditions otherwise they're not good drivers. :)
You are right. Gameplay is all that matters, and without FFB, it doesn´t matter at all. No FFB = really poor gameplay.

I really suggest you try driving with FFB before you state something like this. GT4 became a completley new game for me when I bought a DFP. I don´t even consider ever going back to a handheld controller when playing GT.

That would be like going back to crawling on all four after you have learned how to walk.
 
you all are biased on the fact that a simple function is not added into a gaming system, regardless of it being the next gen console, if they can't do it. then they can't do it. plain and simple. If u want FFB so bad, go drive your car everywhere. No definition like real definition. turn the wheel back yourself like you should be. and Honestly i could care less what people think about my post right now, because i am getting annoyed by similar topics and similar statements over and over. "Don't post here if you don't like it" well i just felt like speaking my mind right about now.

and yeah i agree with the guy above me, even though i don't have a wheel. The gameplay is all that matters. and if you can't drive without FFB then that says alot about your driving skills. "Good drivers" are suppose to be accustomed to all types of driving conditions otherwise they're not good drivers. :)


Force feedback is not just about having the steering wheel turnback on its own as it should do in real life.
Firstly using the wheel ffb or not, translates precise direct input to the steered wheels in GT as in the real world.
Playing as you do with the controller, your steering is assisted and isnt directly related to the position of the dual shock sticks.
Force feedback, provides a feeling of weight, in a turn, you can feel when the car is gripping, it allows you to drive to the maximum limit, without ffb there is simply no feeling of the car being on the edge of its performanceand is not very realistic. this is much the same when you use the hand control, you must guess the limit of the car and listen for audible clues, but when its beyond the limit you cannot feel what the car is doing, unlike with ffb in the wheel.
With ffb when you lose the backend, deliberately or not the feedback works against you representing the shift of weight of the car, all of this happens to make it feel much more like driving a car in real life.
This is what Controller users cannot understand, It brings the physics engine to life and makes it far more representitve of reality than using ds/sixaaxis, it brings a different feeling to the handling of each individual car, until you have experienced it and relate it to real world driving experiences you will never understand whythose who love driving games complain so much.

I drive 30,000 miles a year and have to obey the law, I have done some track and dirt driving but that becomes expensive real fast, so to full fill my need for speed, i look to Driving games, I was done with the controller, way back with the PS1 and GT1 and 2, I can still equal my times with the controller to me it's so much easier, but the pleasure comes from driving as it should be recreated, with a 900degree wheel and feedback, while sitting in my Driving seat.
Take FFB away and i can slouch on the couch, feet on the table, twiddle my thumbs about over the sixaxis, and claim to be a skilled driver.
But hang on i can do that with most any other driving game.
This is meant to be the 'REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR'.
I love GT. I simply want it to be the best it can be.

Maybe you ought to spend some time with GT4 on PS2, with a wheel and feedback and see just how significantly improved the whole gameplay becomes, it creates a whole better challenge that immerses you and draws you in.
 
I haven't bought a PS3 yet, mainly waiting for GT5. So not only would I be passing on GT5, but I wouldn't bother with the console either. There are other simulators out there. LFS for example.

PS3 and GT5 would cost too much for a gimped driving simulator, no matter how nice the graphics are. Rumble strips are there for a reason.

Oh yeah, ditto for what GTXLR said about FF. I just spent $300. for the G25 and it completely changed the experience for me. It IS like driving and going back to non-FF now is just not acceptable.
 
I got used to lack of FFB for Forza, and if GT5 doesn't have it, I'll get used to it again. But I really doubt I'll have to.
 
I will still buy gt5 as i've always used a controller, if it does have ffb then i will get a wheel, of not i'll steer with the sixaxis
 
I will not pass up GT5 with, or without FFB, however, that is not to say I won't pass it up because of PS3's insane price tag.
 
If GT5 didn't have force feedback, I'd still buy it. However, I'd probably sell it within a few months instead of keeping it for years.
 
I won't pass it up, I probably won't play on it with a wheel though. I recently tried playing one of my PC sims wit the DFP but with zero force feedback, it felt terrible. With a pad, I could cope without but with a wheel I couldn't. I don't see it being any different with GT5.
 
I bought G25 basically for GT5, been playing GT Legends with it for now. Thought of buying PS3 when it hits Europe, but now that this wheel issue is unclear, Ill probably wait.

Theres a very high probability that Ill completely forget PS3 and Sony if they dont deliver.

I can only imagine Polyphonys anger in this, since the force feedback is crusial to the future of their lovechild.
 
I agree with S^Peter. I myself have ordered a logitech g25 steering wheel in anticipation of GT5 and without the ffb function it will IMO render the damn thing useless! and it will also prevent me from getting the Ps3 since its one of the only games i care about. Luckily i can still use my G25 on the PC however there is no chance of me getting a GT5 or a PS3 for that matter, so for me it really is force feedback or nothing.
 
Quoting myself:
Like Sony isn't going to support its most profitable franchise at all cost. I think everyone needs to take a chill on this. If nothing else, remember that the settlement fee Immersion is demanding is already in an account drawing interest, and if Immersion looses (PLEASE God), that money goes back into Sony's budget and they get to use Logitech's force feedback license. If Immersion wins, Sony simply releases the funds and they get their force feedback anyway.
 
Why should Immersion loose this one? Sony lost it already - they are in revision, and microsoft lost this case also a while ago. Sony is in trouble money wise (bad laptop batteries and high cost of the PS3) - they just want to delay the case, what means for us - delayed FFB? I say sony should settle and relax !!!
 
Sony lost the first case but they have appealed, they could win the appeal. I'm not saying they will, but the possiblity exists that they could. They don't just want to delay the case either, they want to not have to pay £100,000,000 to Immersion. If this bothers you so much, why don't you offer to pay it for them eh.
 
Hi everybody. What id like to know is if sony won the process or pay what immersions asks, it will be possible add the Force feedback function in the future games and in the games already released?
 
If this bothers you so much, why don't you offer to pay it for them eh.

I hope sony makes an option of buying FFB(logitech g25 ,dfp) support for GT5 to PS-store.(if FFB is not included) 5-10$ would not be too bad ,for those who "need" it.

Hi everybody. What id like to know is if sony won the process or pay what immersions asks, it will be possible add the Force feedback function in the future games and in the games already released?

PS3 has a hard drive ,so its possible also for already released games.
 
I started with GT4 and a simple controller. Then bought the DFP and a racing cockpit by redlinesims and never looked back. Then bought a 50" LCD HDTV which sits about 6 feet in front of my face when I'm driving in my cockpit. Why did this game disk, originally given to me as a gift, spawn so much buying? So that I can experience the most sensational driving simulation possible. If there is no FF, well, that's one sensation I simply cannot do without when racing/driving. I sincerely hope that FF will be included in the game as I anticipate to continually upgrade my racing set-up by saving for the latest, and most sensational, technology available.

No FF = No driving simulation
 
I started with GT4 and a simple controller. Then bought the DFP and a racing cockpit by redlinesims and never looked back. Then bought a 50" LCD HDTV which sits about 6 feet in front of my face when I'm driving in my cockpit. Why did this game disk, originally given to me as a gift, spawn so much buying? So that I can experience the most sensational driving simulation possible. If there is no FF, well, that's one sensation I simply cannot do without when racing/driving. I sincerely hope that FF will be included in the game as I anticipate to continually upgrade my racing set-up by saving for the latest, and most sensational, technology available.

No FF = No driving simulation

I agree with your comments however I belive that the issue of FFb has been resolved now anyway.
 
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