Wow BMW totally ripped these guys off

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For the last few years, BMW and University of Bath have been hard at work on the CLEVER — a compact fuel-efficient vehicle for city driving. Somewhat overshadowed this week by the launch of the 2007 3-Series Coupe, BMW on Friday released the first images of the completed CLEVER. As the name — Compact Low Emission Vehicle for Urban Transport — suggests, the aim of the project was to create a vehicle that was practical, safe, and environmentally-friendly. Unlike the Volkswagen GX3 Concept — with one rear wheel and two front wheels — the CLEVER has two rear wheels and one front. If it ever makes it to production, the vehicle is expected to cost around $10,000 and would have a top speed of 50 mph. One fascinating aspect of the vehicle is its unique tilting design for stable, motorcycle-like cornering.


A problem with three-wheel vehicles with a symmetrical wheel layout is the tipping moment when cornering, which cannot be controlled at high speeds if the vehicle has a short wheelbase.

To solve this problem the vehicle’s center of gravity can be moved towards the center of the corner, for example by angling the complete vehicle—just as a motorcycle does when it corners.

The hydraulic active tilt system is electronically controlled and keeps the vehicle upright at low speeds.

At just over three feet wide, it is 20 inches less than a micro-car, and several feet less wide than a medium sized conventional car.

Running on compressed natural gas, the vehicle would not only help preserve stocks of oil but would emit less polluting carbon dioxide than conventional cars. Its fuel consumption is predicted to be equivalent to 188 miles per gallon.

The vehicle is different from previous attempts to create a small urban vehicle in that it is fully enclosed in a metal framework. Its roof is as high as conventional cars, and it carries one passenger, who sits behind the driver.

Below are three videos of recent crash tests conducted on the car. The results from the USNCAP first crash at 56 kph against a rigid barrier met expectations and would again result in a 3-star grading. The head and chest stresses on the driver were very good, and the head stresses on the passenger were also acceptable as a result of the energy-absorbing foam on the driver’s backrest.

The intrusion in the driver’s footwell was very low and posed no threat to the driver’s extremities. The vehicle cell suffered deformation in the forecast area, the driver’s door could be opened without any problems after the crash. The front wheel swinging arm collapsed and came loose because, to save time and money, a welded aluminium construction was used rather than a cast construction. This problem will not occur on the standard solution.

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It all look strangly like the CRAVER that was shown on Top Gear some time ago.

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But you could say the second automobile ripped off the first, the second gearbox ripped off the first and so on. Sure there's obviousely influence there, but you can't have a go at BMW for it, everyone does it and has been for centuries in every market. It's perhaps simply the first and second models in a new nich market vehicle that might become trendy, I personally don't like it but then I don't like skateboards either.
 
I would expect something like this from a Chinese company, but not BMW, and really its such a radical idea that BMW definatly ripped off the Carver. Guess BMW's just trying to own a small little company with a "decent" idea. I really do hope BMW is paying them a patent fee or they get sued. However if there is no patent, then it sucks to be the little guy now doesn't it.
 
I think Sir Clive beat them all to it - creating a three wheeled vehicle that no one would be seen dead in.

 
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It don't tilt either, but this car was built by G.M. in the eighties...

Oh, and don't forget...

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It was a tricycle, too...
 
I agree that it is a rip off especially in terms of the design, but I don't think BMW should be singled out for taking an idea and using it for themselves since everyone does it and it's in every market and has been going on for centuries.
 
This was done by university kids in bristol so they probably did copy the carver now that I think of it, so they managed to make what would have otherwise been a boring supermini into something exciting and complex which shows off their skills.
 
Normal FWD crapbox Supermini.

Motorcycle with stability and safety.


Man, I don't know about you, but I find Motorcycles even LESS interesting than I did before.
 
If you want a bike, get a bike. If you want a small car, get a small car.

- if you want something in between get a Caterham Fireblade, Ariel Atom or a Radical.
 
TheCracker
If you want a bike, get a bike. If you want a small car, get a small car.

- if you want something in between get a Caterham Fireblade, Ariel Atom or a Radical.

Not street legal in the states
Not street legal in the states
Sorta Kinda Maybe Almost street legal in the states as a Kit with money and luck.


If BMW or VW actually officially sold those new bike/car hybrids, they'd have better chances getting them legal.

I love the idea of 50+ mpg, light weight, great handling, etc. I also love the idea of knowing my skin is going to remain in the condition I left in.
 
You know what I dont get about US law is that on pimp my ride they show some of the most unsafe cars I have ever seen yet they arent taken off the road and cars like the caterham are. Dont you guys need MOTs over there?
 
Poverty
You know what I dont get about US law is that on pimp my ride they show some of the most unsafe cars I have ever seen yet they arent taken off the road and cars like the caterham are. Dont you guys need MOTs over there?

Catherhams are legal here, there is a guy north of me by about 10 minutes that has a polished aluminum one.
 
Didn't Mercedes do a similar concept several years back, as well?

Anyway, I hope this makes it to production. With BMW behind it, it'll probably sell more than the Carver did, simply because of the brand recognition.

I just noticed one thing, though -- isn't the Carver a two-seater? This CLEVER is a one-seater, and it seems smaller overall. :indiff:
 
No, this is a two seater as well. You can see the second seat in the second pic (the one without the bodywork) and also it's mentioned a few time's in the article.
 
Onikaze
Not street legal in the states
Yes they are. All Caterhams (and Seven-design based cars) fall under two waivers in importation laws in U.S. Emissions and Safety standards:
  1. Caterhams (and all similar models) are based on a design exceeding 30 years of age, and thus are waivered under the classic car waiver (which is why you can import 1970-'73 GT-R's and use them).
  2. Most 7-based models (not sure about Caterhams though) waive Emissions and Safety Standards because of their kit-car origins. This is the same reason that you can import a Nobel into the country: They are sold in two pieces (engine and car) and you pay (or do it yourself) to have it put together.
Onikaze
If BMW or VW actually officially sold those new bike/car hybrids, they'd have better chances getting them legal.
No. They wouldn't be allowed to be sold in the U.S. because they wouldn't past crash tests, regardless of the star rating (no front bumper), and they will have difficulty being sold in Europe because of the Pedestrian Safety Standards.
 
Good to know, didnt know you could drive a Caterham over here.

Not that I would, while it's great in its focus, I don't have a good track nearby, and my girlfriend would kill me for making her ride in it, after the ride almost killed her.

I just want a Kabura dammit.
 
Onikaze
Not street legal in the states
Not street legal in the states
Sorta Kinda Maybe Almost street legal in the states as a Kit with money and luck.

Caterhams are street legal in the USA. You justhave to assemble it over here.

Eek sorry missed the second page.

I am not sure how Noble is selling their cars, but it isn't as simple as motor+car=legal. There are certain restrictions for certain parts on those cars. Some Elise guys looked at importing them before they announced the FedElise, and it turned out that you had to send all sorts of parts to different countries where they could be all legally sent to the US and then assembled on American soil. It turned out to cost a whole lot of money and you would get pusehd around all of the time for your paperwork anyways.
 
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