WRC 8: General Discussion (Release: september 2019)

I can't believe this might turn into yet another game I will have to wait for. The game has had a page on steam for ages, so are they just doing it for discussions since the EGS is devoid of such features.
 
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Here are all the stages in all their reversed and stitched glory.



Which are the brand new stages not carried over from wrc7?

Monte, Argentina and Germany have been redone. Maybe Corsica seems different.
 
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Monte, Germany, Argentina, Chile and Turkey are all brand new stages. Wales has a new stage. The rest is from WRC 7. A couple of the old stages have some parts of the route modified.
 
I did all the math:

STAGES: 74 Excluding Epics (repeats) / 35 of the 74 are new / 102 Total Including Epics
UNIQUE KM: 481,37km of which 258,71km are new

COMPLETE LIST OF STAGES (See notes at bottom):

RALLYE MONTE CARLO (41,65km)

SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy* (7,53km)
SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy Reverse* (7,48km)
SS Luceram* (5,99km)
SS Luceram Reverse* (6,07km)
SS Col de Braus* (7,28km)
SS Col de Braus Reverse* (7,30km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby* (21,06km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby Reverse* (21,02km)

RALLY SWEDEN (32.71km)

SS Torsby (5,67km)
SS Torsby Reverse**** (5,68km)
SS Vargäsen (8,77km)
SS Vargäsen Reverse**** (8,79km)
ES Knon (14,10km) (ES)
ES Knon Reverse (14,14km) (ES)
SSS Karlstad (3,80km) (SSS)

RALLY MÉXICO (39.03km)

SS Media Luna (4,01km)
SS Media Luna Reverse (3,98km)
SS Ibarilla (8,27km)
SS Ibarilla Reverse (8,31km)
ES El Chocolate*** (18,35km) [6,07 unique km]
ES El Chocolate Reverse*** (18,38km) [6,09 unique km]
SSS Autódromo de León (2,30km)

CORSICA LINEA TOUR DE CORSE (40,78km)

SS Pietrosella (7,77km)
SS Pietrosella Reverse (7,73km)
SS Novella (5,04km)
SS Novella Reverse (5,03km)
SS La Porta (7,60km)
SS La Porta Reverse (7,61km)
ES Antisanti (14,13km)
ES Antisanti Reverse (14,07km)

XION RALLY ARGENTINA (33,86km)

SS El Cóndor* (7,14km)
SS El Cóndor Reverse* (7,11km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada* (6,88km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada Reverse* (6,69km)
ES Cantera* (14,74km)
ES Cantera Reverse* (14,71km)
SSS Parque Temático (6,04km)

COPEC RALLY CHILE (41.47km)

SS Lircay* (6,38km)
SS Lircay Reverse* (6,40km)
SS San Nicolás* (6,28km)
SS San Nicolás Reverse* (6,29km)
SS Espigado* (8,10km)
SS Espigado Reverse* (8.02km)
ES El Puma* (21,01km)
ES El Puma Reverse* (21,01km)

VODAFONE RALLY DE PORTUGAL (24,96km)

SS Fafe** (5,39km)
SS Fafe Reverse**** (5,41km)
SS Viana do Castelo (5,40km)
SS Viana do Castelo Reverse (5,42km)
ES Amarante (10,93km)
ES Amarante Reverse (10,93km)
SSS Lousada (3,34km)

RALLY ITALIA SARDEGNA (28.55km)

SS Baranta (5,18km)
SS Baranta Reverse (5,26km)
SS Lerno (4,13km)
SS Lerno Reverse**** (4,15km)
ES Monti di Ala*** (13,21km) [3,90 unique km]
ES Monti di Ala Reverse*** (13,22km) [3,81unique km]
SSS Ittiri Arena (2,12km)

NESTE RALLY FINLAND (37,75km)

SS Ouninpohja (10,30km)
SS Ouninpohja Reverse**** (10,35km)
SS Horkka (7,41 km)
SS Horkka Reverse**** (7,42km)
ES Päijälá (17,47km)
ES Päijälá Reverse (17,51km)
SSS Harju (2,27km)

ADAC RALLY DEUTSCHLAND (32,36km)

SS Moselland* (7,87km)
SS Moselland Reverse* (7,88km)
SS Freisen* (6,88km)
SS Freisen Reverse* (6,86km)
ES Mittelmosel* (15,61km)
ES Mittelmosel Reverse* (15,63km)
SSS Arena Panzerplatte (2,87km)

RALLY TURKEY (28,51km)

SS Datça* (6,68km)
SS Datça Reverse* (6,60km)
SS Çiçekli* (6,63km)
SS Çiçekli Reverse* (6,60km)
ES Yeşibelde* (14,65km)
ES Yeşibelde Reverse* (14,61km)
SSS Marmaris* (2,00km)

WALES RALLY GB (33,99km)

SS Hafren (6,01km)
SS Hafren Reverse (6,07km)
SS Great Orme (4,58km)
SS Great Orme Reverse**** (4,52km)
SS Brenig* (6,40km)
SS Brenig Reverse* (6,41km)
ES Dyfi (17,50km)
ES Dyfi Reverse (17,43km)

RallyRACC CATALUÑA - COSTA DAURADA (33.99km)

SS Bot** (5,72km) 1,69 new km
SS Bot Reverse** (5,62km) 1,53 new km
SS La Figuera (9,73km)
SS La Figuera Reverse (9,72km)
ES El Montmell (14,20km)
ES El Montmell Reverse (14,35km)
SSS Barcelona (3,20 km)

KENNARDS HIRE RALLY AUSTRALIA (28.54km)

SS Baker's Creek (5,59km)
SS Baker's Creek Reverse**** (5,56km)
SS Nambucca** (7,66km)
SS Nambucca Reverse** (7,74km)
ES Valla 16 (13,62)
ES Valla 16 Reverse (13,59km)
SSS Raleigh* (1,99km)

OLD RALLY POLAND
Free roam testing and proving grounds

* = Brand new stage / Tramo nuevo
** = Old stage with changes / Tramo viejo con cambios
*** = Contains parts not seen in other stages / Contiene partes no vistas en otros tramos
**** = Old stage reversed for first time / Tramo viejo invertido por primera vez
[] = Unique km appearing only in this Epic Stage / km únicos que solo aparecen en este Tramo Épico
SS = Special Stage / Prueba Especial
ES = Epic Stage / Tramo Épico
SSS = Super Special Stage / Prueba Súper Especial
 
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I did all the math:

STAGES: 74 Excluding Epics (repeats) / 35 of the 74 are new / 102 Total Including Epics
UNIQUE KM: 478,15km of which 255,49km are new

COMPLETE LIST OF STAGES (See notes at bottom):

RALLYE MONTE CARLO (41,65km)

SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy* (7,53km)
SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy Reverse* (7,48km)
SS Luceram* (5,99km)
SS Luceram Reverse* (6,07km)
SS Col de Braus* (7,28km)
SS Col de Braus Reverse* (7,30km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby* (21,06km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby Reverse* (21,02km)

RALLY SWEDEN (32.71km)

SS Torsby (5,67km)
SS Torsby Reverse**** (5,68km)
SS Vargäsen (8,77km)
SS Vargäsen Reverse**** (8,79km)
ES Knon (14,10km) (ES)
ES Knon Reverse (14,14km) (ES)
SSS Karlstad (3,80km) (SSS)

RALLY MÉXICO (39.03km)

SS Media Luna (4,01km)
SS Media Luna Reverse (3,98km)
SS Ibarilla (8,27km)
SS Ibarilla Reverse (8,31km)
ES El Chocolate*** (18,35km) [6,07 unique km]
ES El Chocolate Reverse*** (18,38km) [6,09 unique km]
SSS Autódromo de León (2,30km)

CORSICA LINEA TOUR DE CORSE (40,78km)

SS Pietrosella (7,77km)
SS Pietrosella Reverse (7,73km)
SS Novella (5,04km)
SS Novella Reverse (5,03km)
SS La Porta (7,60km)
SS La Porta Reverse (7,61km)
ES Antisanti (14,13km)
ES Antisanti Reverse (14,07km)

XION RALLY ARGENTINA (33,86km)

SS El Cóndor* (7,14km)
SS El Cóndor Reverse* (7,11km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada* (6,88km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada Reverse* (6,69km)
ES Cantera* (14,74km)
ES Cantera Reverse* (14,71km)
SSS Parque Temático (6,04km)

COPEC RALLY CHILE (41.47km)

SS Lircay* (6,38km)
SS Lircay Reverse* (6,40km)
SS San Nicolás* (6,28km)
SS San Nicolás Reverse* (6,29km)
SS Espigado* (8,10km)
SS Espigado Reverse* (8.02km)
ES El Puma* (21,01km)
ES El Puma Reverse* (21,01km)

VODAFONE RALLY DE PORTUGAL (24,96km)

SS Fafe** (5,39km)
SS Fafe Reverse**** (5,41km)
SS Viana do Castelo (5,40km)
SS Viana do Castelo Reverse (5,42km)
ES Amarante (10,93km)
ES Amarante Reverse (10,93km)
SSS Lousada (3,34km)

RALLY ITALIA SARDEGNA (28.55km)

SS Baranta (5,18km)
SS Baranta Reverse (5,26km)
SS Lerno (4,13km)
SS Lerno Reverse**** (4,15km)
ES Monti di Ala*** (13,21km) [3,90 unique km]
ES Monti di Ala Reverse*** (13,22km) [3,81unique km]
SSS Ittiri Arena (2,12km)

NESTE RALLY FINLAND (37,75km)

SS Ouninpohja (10,30km)
SS Ouninpohja Reverse**** (10,35km)
SS Horkka (7,41 km)
SS Horkka Reverse**** (7,42km)
ES Päijälá (17,47km)
ES Päijälá Reverse (17,51km)
SSS Harju (2,27km)

ADAC RALLY DEUTSCHLAND (32,36km)

SS Moselland* (7,87km)
SS Moselland Reverse* (7,88km)
SS Freisen* (6,88km)
SS Freisen Reverse* (6,86km)
ES Mittelmosel* (15,61km)
ES Mittelmosel Reverse* (15,63km)
SSS Arena Panzerplatte (2,87km)

RALLY TURKEY (28,51km)

SS Datça* (6,68km)
SS Datça Reverse* (6,60km)
SS Çiçekli* (6,63km)
SS Çiçekli Reverse* (6,60km)
ES Yeşibelde* (14,65km)
ES Yeşibelde Reverse* (14,61km)
SSS Marmaris* (2,00km)

WALES RALLY GB (33,99km)

SS Hafren (6,01km)
SS Hafren Reverse (6,07km)
SS Great Orme (4,58km)
SS Great Orme Reverse**** (4,52km)
SS Brenig* (6,40km)
SS Brenig Reverse* (6,41km)
ES Dyfi (17,50km)
ES Dyfi Reverse (17,43km)

RallyRACC CATALUÑA - COSTA DAURADA (33.99km)

SS Bot** (5,72km)
SS Bot Reverse** (5,62km)
SS La Figuera (9,73km)
SS La Figuera Reverse (9,72km)
ES El Montmell (14,20km)
ES El Montmell Reverse (14,35km)
SSS Barcelona (3,20 km)

KENNARDS HIRE RALLY AUSTRALIA (28.54km)

SS Baker's Creek (5,59km)
SS Baker's Creek Reverse**** (5,56km)
SS Nambucca** (7,66km)
SS Nambucca Reverse** (7,74km)
ES Valla 16 (13,62)
ES Valla 16 Reverse (13,59km)
SSS Raleigh* (1,99km)

OLD RALLY POLAND
Free roam testing and proving grounds

* = Brand new stage / Tramo nuevo
** = Old stage with changes / Tramo viejo con cambios
*** = Contains parts not seen in other stages / Contiene partes no vistas en otros tramos
**** = Old stage reversed for first time / Tramo viejo invertido por primera vez
[] = Unique km appearing only in this Epic Stage / km únicos que solo aparecen en este Tramo Épico
SS = Special Stage / Prueba Especial
ES = Epic Stage / Tramo Épico
SSS = Super Special Stage / Prueba Súper Especial

Great work Pfei! I'll add them to the first page later.
 
I did all the math:

STAGES: 74 Excluding Epics (repeats) / 35 of the 74 are new / 102 Total Including Epics
UNIQUE KM: 478,15km of which 255,49km are new

COMPLETE LIST OF STAGES (See notes at bottom):

RALLYE MONTE CARLO (41,65km)

SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy* (7,53km)
SS Agnières-en-Dévoluy Reverse* (7,48km)
SS Luceram* (5,99km)
SS Luceram Reverse* (6,07km)
SS Col de Braus* (7,28km)
SS Col de Braus Reverse* (7,30km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby* (21,06km)
ES La Bollène-Vesuby Reverse* (21,02km)

RALLY SWEDEN (32.71km)

SS Torsby (5,67km)
SS Torsby Reverse**** (5,68km)
SS Vargäsen (8,77km)
SS Vargäsen Reverse**** (8,79km)
ES Knon (14,10km) (ES)
ES Knon Reverse (14,14km) (ES)
SSS Karlstad (3,80km) (SSS)

RALLY MÉXICO (39.03km)

SS Media Luna (4,01km)
SS Media Luna Reverse (3,98km)
SS Ibarilla (8,27km)
SS Ibarilla Reverse (8,31km)
ES El Chocolate*** (18,35km) [6,07 unique km]
ES El Chocolate Reverse*** (18,38km) [6,09 unique km]
SSS Autódromo de León (2,30km)

CORSICA LINEA TOUR DE CORSE (40,78km)

SS Pietrosella (7,77km)
SS Pietrosella Reverse (7,73km)
SS Novella (5,04km)
SS Novella Reverse (5,03km)
SS La Porta (7,60km)
SS La Porta Reverse (7,61km)
ES Antisanti (14,13km)
ES Antisanti Reverse (14,07km)

XION RALLY ARGENTINA (33,86km)

SS El Cóndor* (7,14km)
SS El Cóndor Reverse* (7,11km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada* (6,88km)
SS Cuchilla Nevada Reverse* (6,69km)
ES Cantera* (14,74km)
ES Cantera Reverse* (14,71km)
SSS Parque Temático (6,04km)

COPEC RALLY CHILE (41.47km)

SS Lircay* (6,38km)
SS Lircay Reverse* (6,40km)
SS San Nicolás* (6,28km)
SS San Nicolás Reverse* (6,29km)
SS Espigado* (8,10km)
SS Espigado Reverse* (8.02km)
ES El Puma* (21,01km)
ES El Puma Reverse* (21,01km)

VODAFONE RALLY DE PORTUGAL (24,96km)

SS Fafe** (5,39km)
SS Fafe Reverse**** (5,41km)
SS Viana do Castelo (5,40km)
SS Viana do Castelo Reverse (5,42km)
ES Amarante (10,93km)
ES Amarante Reverse (10,93km)
SSS Lousada (3,34km)

RALLY ITALIA SARDEGNA (28.55km)

SS Baranta (5,18km)
SS Baranta Reverse (5,26km)
SS Lerno (4,13km)
SS Lerno Reverse**** (4,15km)
ES Monti di Ala*** (13,21km) [3,90 unique km]
ES Monti di Ala Reverse*** (13,22km) [3,81unique km]
SSS Ittiri Arena (2,12km)

NESTE RALLY FINLAND (37,75km)

SS Ouninpohja (10,30km)
SS Ouninpohja Reverse**** (10,35km)
SS Horkka (7,41 km)
SS Horkka Reverse**** (7,42km)
ES Päijälá (17,47km)
ES Päijälá Reverse (17,51km)
SSS Harju (2,27km)

ADAC RALLY DEUTSCHLAND (32,36km)

SS Moselland* (7,87km)
SS Moselland Reverse* (7,88km)
SS Freisen* (6,88km)
SS Freisen Reverse* (6,86km)
ES Mittelmosel* (15,61km)
ES Mittelmosel Reverse* (15,63km)
SSS Arena Panzerplatte (2,87km)

RALLY TURKEY (28,51km)

SS Datça* (6,68km)
SS Datça Reverse* (6,60km)
SS Çiçekli* (6,63km)
SS Çiçekli Reverse* (6,60km)
ES Yeşibelde* (14,65km)
ES Yeşibelde Reverse* (14,61km)
SSS Marmaris* (2,00km)

WALES RALLY GB (33,99km)

SS Hafren (6,01km)
SS Hafren Reverse (6,07km)
SS Great Orme (4,58km)
SS Great Orme Reverse**** (4,52km)
SS Brenig* (6,40km)
SS Brenig Reverse* (6,41km)
ES Dyfi (17,50km)
ES Dyfi Reverse (17,43km)

RallyRACC CATALUÑA - COSTA DAURADA (33.99km)

SS Bot** (5,72km)
SS Bot Reverse** (5,62km)
SS La Figuera (9,73km)
SS La Figuera Reverse (9,72km)
ES El Montmell (14,20km)
ES El Montmell Reverse (14,35km)
SSS Barcelona (3,20 km)

KENNARDS HIRE RALLY AUSTRALIA (28.54km)

SS Baker's Creek (5,59km)
SS Baker's Creek Reverse**** (5,56km)
SS Nambucca** (7,66km)
SS Nambucca Reverse** (7,74km)
ES Valla 16 (13,62)
ES Valla 16 Reverse (13,59km)
SSS Raleigh* (1,99km)

OLD RALLY POLAND
Free roam testing and proving grounds

* = Brand new stage / Tramo nuevo
** = Old stage with changes / Tramo viejo con cambios
*** = Contains parts not seen in other stages / Contiene partes no vistas en otros tramos
**** = Old stage reversed for first time / Tramo viejo invertido por primera vez
[] = Unique km appearing only in this Epic Stage / km únicos que solo aparecen en este Tramo Épico
SS = Special Stage / Prueba Especial
ES = Epic Stage / Tramo Épico
SSS = Super Special Stage / Prueba Súper Especial

Awesome work. 21km epic stage on Chile should be fun.
 


Tolerated as much of that video as I could, but I’m surprised nobody here commented about his inputs not matching what is displayed.

Seeing that I usually turn off the cockpit wheel anyway, does it matter if they don’t sync?
 
Tolerated as much of that video as I could, but I’m surprised nobody here commented about his inputs not matching what is displayed.

Seeing that I usually turn off the cockpit wheel anyway, does it matter if they don’t sync?

No, it doesn't matter if it doesn't synch, but it's annoying nonetheless. All KT Racing games do that.
 
No, it doesn't matter if it doesn't synch, but it's annoying nonetheless. All KT Racing games do that.

Very true, KT games always have a lot of free wheel play and what seems to be oversteer and/or over sensitive steering.

But — what I would give to find a wheel setting that reproduces what we’re seeing displayed in that video. The cars would handle more predictably and smoothly (at least for me).

Maybe there isn’t such a setting. Who knows.
 
Very true, KT games always have a lot of free wheel play and what seems to be oversteer and/or over sensitive steering.

But — what I would give to find a wheel setting that reproduces what we’re seeing displayed in that video. The cars would handle more predictably and smoothly (at least for me).

Maybe there isn’t such a setting. Who knows.

I've got a lovely setting, it's called a controller ! :)

PS I know I know :lol:
 
Are we talking about the time delay -- which could be exacerbated by the video sources being out of sync -- or the limited lock-to-lock movement of the wheel?

The former is inconclusive (probably mostly the videos). The latter can still be an issue on a controller, because I use that wheel movement to track the output of my controller input, and limited movement means limited information. I wish developers would just do full animation for both control methods. Unrealistic arm-flailing isn't any worse for immersion than a plainly unrealistic steering animation.
 
Training grounds are a good addition , moreover they are included in the carreer mode in the calendar between rallies and they reward with XP and crew morale points. Also an Extreme scenario mode is available in career mode as additional training between rallies. With scenario mode i mean for example: wet, mud, night brakes severely damaged. Complete the stage within a given time with no extra damage. They give extra rewards and xp.
 
Why do you need to go back out of your calendar to start the event? That is completely unlogical. Go into calendar, select event, go back out of calender, choose start event..:irked:
 
I can't deny i am really hyped after the upset of dirt rally 2. Finally a real career mode with not only racing.

Overall superb stage design, you can see the difference between new ones like Turkey and the older carried over even if they got fueled up with extra details e new colore palet. Only Corsica design and finland (width) are not that good.

On STD PS4 surely i won't be amazed by the graphics but of the frame rate Is stabile and the wheel well implemented i will be fine.

I hope they won't exagerate with dynamic weather in Carrer mode, i mean usually when a new feature is included it is extra used. I don't really won't every tace to change weather or find myself with storms in mexico.

PS: Sorry for the mistakes in the post but the t9 keeps modifying words into italian.
 

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