GT5’s Premium Cars Go “Beyond” PS3’s Capabilities

A few more interesting quotes have emerged from the GT5 article in the latest “PlayStation: The Official Magazine (UK)”. According to Kazunori Yamauchi, Polyphony Digital has essentially future-proofed the game’s 200+ “Premium Cars”:

“The level of precision we’ve achieved [in GT5] is actually more suited to the next generation of machines. The detail that goes into a premium model [has] gone beyond the level of the current PlayStation.”

This statement complements Yamauchi’s previous remarks about Gran Turismo 6 last November:

“You won’t have to wait as long as you did for GT5GT5 was basically the creation of a whole new operating system, and developing GT6 will be like adding new applications that run on that new operating system.”

However, since he made those comments, things may have changed according to more recent contradictory reports which hint GT6 may require another 5 years of development – something which would make sense if they now plan to release the game on the next generation of PlayStation hardware…

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Comments (188)

    1. BWX

      maybe you need to get a life. You’re the one reading this website, and then mocking other people for comments they make that are actually on topic.

  1. me

    There’s 512megs of ram and an old nVidia card, hardware was out of date at launch. How is this a suprise to anyone? PD went too far, seems like they skipped 5 and went straight to 6. Their loss, they could have sold millions of GT5 copies ot GT5p DLC by now.

  2. viejaloca

    Yeah, why are you all crying??? There are tons of games I’m WAITING for plus, it’s already confirmed to release in November! I feel your pain though because the video game market is overrunned by FPSs but if you look through the internet for other games I’m sure there will be other games you guys will love. GT isn’t the only PS3 exclusive worth getting.

  3. smoke1485

    Gt6=spring/summer 2013 bit over 2 to 2 and a half years to premiumize all cars, add new ones, more tracks, increase number of cars on track at once, and a few new modes.

    1. marcvic

      That’s all I would want out of GT6… Unless of course that $200 special edition has all cars “premiumized”…

    2. Big Ron

      I think, you will not get more cars on track without worsen the graphics. If you think about it more closely, then you would even suspect that they would have done it if it were possible at this level

    3. funrun

      I really don’t think so, it’s been 2 since Prologue and what would be the point in releasing a game with just upgraded cars and added tracks? I think this will unlike PS1 and PS2 only be released once and GT6 could then be an epic launch title for PS4. Isn’t this comment from Kaz san basically confirming they’re on on the brink of having the PS3 have a seizures, why would they release GT6 on PS3 if they’ve reached it’s peak potential.

    4. danielwhite74

      What makes you think Polyphony would be so stupid as to remodel a bunch of car models taken from Gran Turismo 4 just for the sake of it? The Standard cars are in Gran Turismo 5 as a bonus fan service, nothing more. They’ll never be “premiumized.”

  4. GTfanboy

    I think we all just need to chillax about GT5 the main thing is it has a release date and its not to far away.we all just need to find other interests to pass time and it doesent matter what GT5 might be missing when it comes out DLCs can easily fix that, plus KAZ has never let us down before.

  5. unoc

    Q: Why is GT5 is taking so long?
    A: Because it is too overcomplicated..

    what has happened is that a rock has hit Kaz’s head and now he think that his GT5 will is GOd’s gift to gaming.

    He seems to have it in his head that what we want is something behind belief something perfect to real life that can only be done on the PS10 (released 2050)and we will be happy to wait till then.

    Unfortunately on earth, we grow older and most of use wont be playing games in 50 years times.. and while 1% want to get off to the perfect sound of a maserati 99% of us just want a GAME… because its on the PLAYstation and GT5 is a GAME… so if they wouldn’t mind..

    less, 1000k ploygons for each blade of grass and actually get it done…

    Here’s a check list
    Cars
    Tracks
    GT Mode
    Online
    Timetrails/2player/that kind f thing
    whether/daynight

    Done and dusted. Release it already.. If I go driving now, then those are the things I would encounter, a greezy road due to wet, it getting darker, I’d be in my car and I have a life. Done.

    I guess what I’m saying is… If you think youve done too much, THEN YOUVE BLOODY WELL DONE TOO MUCH.

    Release it adn profit. If we wanted photo realism then wed buy a camera. The best look you can do in timeframe is what is wanted. I could paint the monalisa starting with a dot then another dot and it would be brilliant BUT it would take forever..

  6. idlestation

    I like how some people are hating on these comments so passionately…

    Kaz has made 4 Gran Turismo iterations on the home console, I think he knows what he is talking about when he refers to console development.

    I think what he meant to say was that comparing GT car models to other games this generation is a big difference.

    His second comment is quite true as well, they have a GT engine built for ps3 now, so just like how ps1 and ps2 had 2 iterations of Gran Turismo… Ps3 will have GT6 coming our way sooner than most would expect (ie not on ps4).

    1. All Hail Kaz

      He’s hyped up at least two of those versions the same has this one is being hyped, by stating that they are more suited to the next gen. That sounds great, but that’s all it is, hype. You don’t get 60fps by developing for your next gen console and running it on the current, so what you actually get on PS3 isn’t the same has what he’s talking about here. Therefore, anything the game can do in relation to next gen is moot has far has our playing it on PS3.
      Indeed, the qoute, though it may be truth now, may not even be accurate by the time PS4 comes out. GT4 was hyped pretty much the same way on PS2, but now that we have PS3, opps, due to un forseen developments in console tech, the old game engine just wasn’t has advanced and cutting edge has previously reported. Gotta start a new one…
      You can try and argue that he’s talking about it from the perspective of comparring to other current competition, but the qoute says no such thing. It specifically says GT5’s car model is built in such a way that it would run better on PS4.
      Has for the second qoute, that simply implies that we won’t have to wait for them to build another engine, that GT6 will simply be GT5 with features added. While yes, this can be taken has meaning GT6 will be on PS3, and not without precedence, when combined with the first qoute, it can also be taken has (my words, not his),”Now that we have a game engine that’s ready to be put to full use on the PS4, we’ll be able to make a few tweaks and additions, have it quickly released when the PS4 is ready for market”. This also is not without precedence, has it was once widely reported we would have an advanced version of GT4 for the PS3 arround the console’s release. Allthough there was development of “GTHD” including a demo, that version was eventually scrapped, and we then began the long wait for GT5 has we know it now.
      So, point is the history of the series goes both ways. Nothing stated here is really new, and it doesn’t mean much of anything either way about what console will get GT6. Nor does the past history of game release dates, and on which console, has that changes over the life of the series, with the time it takes to develope versus the time sony wants to focus on a given generation of console.
      Has for people “hating”, yes that kinda happens when your originally led to believe that a game will probably release WITH or NEAR the release of the PS3, then they drag it out for close to 6 years, long after the console has been put on the market……

  7. llllllllllllll

    i don’t like cars .. xD
    but still gonna buy it … all people must have this one … but the problem is that i don’t have time to play it .. this game need alots of time .. we are not kids anymore .. so we have other things to do … my brother waited so long for this game .. and now he don’t have time to play it .. he will go to college so he have to study … he will go out of our country and he won’t take the ps3 ..

  8. Slick

    I think my 40GB Ps3 won’t be able to handle such a powerful game like this. I think it might ruin my ps3. Oh well.

    1. viejaloca

      I’m with you on that one! It’ll probably take the last of my 17Gb (gonna have to delete my dad’s crappy music lol). But to be honest, the only differences the new PS3s have are the size and the memory.

  9. MagicAyrton

    I’m bored of waiting :( Just release the damn game already.. not even been given a UK release date yet…

  10. noko

    So we’ve waited over 5 years for a game that’s meant to be on the ps4 that has details we wont even notice since apparently they’re “too good” for the current ps3 hardware???

    F***ing hell, just make the damn game for the ps3 just like every developer and stop trying to make excuses, because we damn well know that it’s going to take another 5-7 years until we get GT6, even with all this “future-proofing” BS.

    I’ll buy my copy of GT5 used to make sure none of my money gets to these scumbags.

    1. TokyoDrift

      In order to buy a used copy, it means that somebody else must have bought it first. So, indirectly, you are supporting them anyway, so quit crying like a baby and grow up.

    2. nope

      If he buys a used copy, sony doesn’t get the money from him buying new, and the guy who bought it first would have bought it anyway. So nope, he’s not supporting them at all. Out of two users, only one of them will have purchased from Sony. He is supporting the used game store however..

    3. Geo_212

      @noko
      Well, someone’s been driving on the wrong side of the car… And lay off the language, give PD and Sony a little respect!

    1. Another GT Vet

      Beacause GT sparks faith like any religion. “True fans” must never question Kaz, or they risk damnation for all time. “True fans” worship on the hopes of promised perfection and eternal happiness.
      And then with every new GT release, some wake up, become aware of the realities, but unfortunately these few are imediately replaced by the new players who where too young to remember the last version.
      The cycle then repeats.

    2. danielwhite74

      Because he’s never been proven wrong before, perhaps? Name one bad – no, in fact, name one less than AAA Gran Turismo game.

    1. Not kidding

      Just throw it arround your backyard for 5 minutes. I fixed a gen1 Xbox that way and it worked for another three weeks….

    2. JayKayEm

      Join the 10,000 others, including me, who have bought multiple playstations just as they are out of warranty. It hurts.

      GT4 won’t work on that Slimline either…..

  11. George Washington

    Pretty insane. Now we know the reason for the “premium car” shortage at least – 1000 premium cars would break teh console! o_0

  12. Jeffree Star

    Omg lets just talk about GT8

    dumb

    Reply to this comment if you have the iPhone App of GT5 Countdown
    110 more days untill GT5s released from today.

  13. NGrignon

    And in the meantime, F3 offers new packs with updated current cars 2009-2010…

    I really hope I won’t find just GT4 cars CIRCA 2005 instead of the new models 2008-2010.

  14. RaWRespect

    i”ve read various articles that the ps4 will come end 2012 and doesn’t have Sony and PD a contract wich says that when a new Playstation comes out, PD has to launch a new Gran Turismo ??

  15. Paulo

    I almost feel like a lot of people just want the game to be released because they can’t wait to play it and analyze every little thing they feel is wrong or left out or whatever. We need to understand that there is a bigger plan at work here, a much larger vision that unfortunately takes time to develop and execute. We need to come to grips that, yes, it has to unfold a little at a time, thats just the way of the world. There are limitations, but I am 100% sure that all fans of the GT series will love this game, just as they loved all previous iterations.

  16. GT-Relentless

    Great news GT6 arriving late 2015-2017, which may or may not include 1000+ cars, all which may or may not have fully modeled interiors, 15-20% of which may or may not be pushing the PS3 to it’s limit, or which may or may not include actual graphics! from the the PS4-PS6 or even PS7, and which may or may or may not include POLYPHONY CART 2.0, PHANTOM TRACK EDITOR 1.5, MISTERY WEATHER 1.0, RANDOM CAR DAMAGE 0.5, PORSCHE SUPER PACK 0.0. And for just 1 small foutune extra you can buy the ULTRA EXCLUSIVE SUPER SPECIAL WIZBANG BELLS KNOBS AND WHISTLES COLLECTORS EDITION, which may or may not include 3-5 extra discs, any of which may or may not include some of the above, + a life sized cut out of an actual real PIXIE wearing a GT6 rompa suit, and full to scale Merc SLS, yours for between $40-100,000.So to avoid dissapointment place your order whenever any version actualy exists, which may or may not be within days of the actual possible release date that SPRING,SUMMER,FALL or WINTER!!!

    1. magicayrton

      I agree with you as they keep us in the dark all the time.. This May or may not be the way to treat loyal fans!!!

  17. Marcus

    I could have swore that this was stated way back in e3. I don’t think that kaz has told the truth. I think he will want gt6 to be a complete revolution if the ps4 allows it.

  18. DrTrouserPlank

    I don’t think they can wait another 5 years for GT6. It wouldn’t be enough return quick enough on their development of this game engine.

    Would we really wait 5 more years for what is essentially (be it PS3 or PS4) just a graphical update of GT5 that still retained the same core physics engine?

    Would we feel the physics engine was even “good enough” in 5 years time, especially if it was on the PS4. Would the game even have enough “wow!” factor if it was in essence, just a prettier GT5?

    I’d be surprised if they deviated from their previous example of getting 2 GT games out of each engine; both being on the same gen of console.

    1. kerrak

      I agree with the 2 GT games out of each engine. It’s just that this time the second game could come in the form of lots of smaller DLC. i.e.:
      Every 3 months during 3 years (12 dlc packs):
      2 new tracks
      20 new premium cars
      30 new events for existent modes
      1 new mode every once in a while

    2. kerrak

      Price of each of those dlc packs 10/12 $/EUR.
      After 1,5 years release the 6 previous packs as a 50-60$/EUR BD GT5 Content Pack.

      This whole type of scheme could disrput second hand market sell less than a complete GT6 3 years later, but disrupts second hand market for GT5, resulting in bigger overall sales.

  19. MagicAyrton

    The guys at PD are fantastic, this “Modular” kind of thinking is amazing, just like all the most spectacular “things” that mankind has made over the years.. they are currently putting in place the necessary “building blocks” required to make the damn franchise future proof.. once the fundamental game engine is in place they can build on it, saving time and advancing at an unprecedented rate with new features, premium models and everything else car/quality related.
    The possibilities are endless and I just can’t wait to see what they come up with… it’s a very exciting time to be a Playstation user..

  20. TokyoDrift

    Wrong. The models in GT5 are precisely within the capabilities of the PS3, otherwise they would not be in there. The raw data may well be more detailed, but then it has been that way ever since they started the franchise.

  21. Ringmaster

    Don’t take Kaz words wrong;
    Kazunori is saying that the level of detail of the models developed on the studio are actually more detailed/has more poligons that the scaled ones (with a software that reduces poligon count probably) that they will make into GT5.
    So they can use the models directly on the next generation consoles. Just a thought.

  22. Niko

    Yes,200 premium cars.Huge PR PD!And 800 standard cars?And many 2D trees?And 2D paper spectators?This is PS4/PS3 quality?

    5 years,and only 200/130 new,70 GT5P/PS3 quality cars.PD,speak to tracks,and dynamic weather system.

    GT5=200 cars.
    +800 only bonus HD cars.
    Tracks:?This military top secret.WRC tracks?Snow,Ice,Rain?

  23. twinspark24

    Knowing Kaz, he’ll say in 3 years “these models are outdated, we need to make them perfect” so 3=5=8 years to GT6. However, I couldn’t care less about the successor of a game, which has not been released yet

  24. E30 Evo Sport

    Honestly who the hell cares if it pushes the limit, they took this long it might as well be good. The only thing I care about is FPS, cause this isnt a PC and we cant upgrade it. I’m starting to get seriously bored with the ‘statements’ its not a big deal ffs.

  25. NBH

    Seems to me that Sony are determined to have a GT game as a launch title for the PS4 and have made sure PD start on it straight away. But it must be hard to try and guess the detail, ok the cars are too detailed for the PS3 but are they detailed enough for the PS4? Unless they have inside info nobody knows.

  26. tri4cetiri

    isn’t it funny how we all leave our comments here, inside hoping that GT developers take the time to read them and listen to our critics to create a game that really simulates a realistic driving experience?
    I have to admit that I love the on-track-physics but was really dissapointed about the lack of the devoloping of real time weather and and (maybe a simplified) crash deformation physics the ps 3 could keep up with..

    1. Ollie

      Lol yeah me too but I’m convinced (for no particular reason) that PD are reading these and aren’t enjoying the flack. At the same time they’ll know that they are managing expectations correctly. Going by some of the whining on the site if everyone knew what was in the game before it was released they would complain when the game came that it wasn’t implemented well enough. By keeping us in the dark they will give the game a ‘wow factor’ with all the previously uncomfirmed features in the game, thus securing positive reviews from hardcore fans. For a game with such high standards and expectations it’s the only way, I think :)

  27. BETOGTR

    Well at least now a days we have DLC they can calm the fans with some of that while we wait for GT6
    Beside we don`t even have GT5 yet and we are alredy complaining about how much GT6 will take , lets just wait till November 2nd and Enjoy :)

  28. Button

    Yeah well they probably started panicking that the PS4 would be out before the next Gran Turismo and decided to hedge their bets.

  29. Dave

    PS4 in 2011? Why? The improvements in hardware would be incremental at best. PS3 is just recieving 3D gaming, and GT5 is coming out at the end of 2010. They’re sure to keep the PS3 going for at least another 5 years, otherwise no one will buy GT5, they’ll just wait for the PS4.

    PS4 for 2015

    1. Ehhh...

      Don’t quite know why 3D is considered such a major advancement. True, there’s a new fancy way of bilking people out of money for it, but krikes, there where even a few 3d games for the original nintendo, with the good ol’ blue n’ red cardboard glasses. The 1980’s also saw experimintation with polarized 3d, so that people could watch in 2d without the red and blue lines issue. So really there isn’t any reason, other than data amounts, that they couldn’t have been doing 3d games for the last 20 years with NO new hardware.

    2. Ollie

      Um, Ehhh…, you mean to say that if it weren’t for the lack of technology in the 80s (inability to handle/transfer enough data) that 3DTV was possible on 80s technology? Genius ^^

  30. ...

    i want DLC for tracks so other racer games shut up … and guys .. don’t worry about the DLC’s .. u won’t finish the game xD … it’s very long .. it takes alots of time to complete the game …

  31. Ehhh...

    “borring games” Depends on how old you are. If you grew up with “Star wars” that was rendered in wire frame (no textures), “Pac Man”, “Donkey Kong” (learn the pattern and you win), and some games that you actually had to read (no graphics at all on many early PC games), it doesn’t take much to keep you happy in current times. Your just thankfull you don’t have to find room for all the cartriges anymore, or wait for stuff to load from an audio cassette.
    Yes, I’m a dinosaur.
    BTW, they used to teach that dinosaurs dragged their tails on the ground when I was a kid….just sayin…

    1. Super T

      Audio cassette games… 5 minutes of listening to fingernails being dragged down a blackboard while the game loaded, that’s dedication to gaming. :)

    2. T-Rex

      I think I still have a section of one of those text game memorized:

      “You’ve entered a rectagular room. There is a doorway to the north. There is another doorway to the east. There is a dark hallway behind you. You can hear sounds coming from the doorway to the east. The room has a musty smell. There is a dagger on the floor.

      What do you want to do?:”

      Has I recall, if you went through the door to the east without using a “get dagger” command, a minotaur got you, and you had to listen to the fingernails again…lol

    3. JayKayEm

      Another dinosaur here, from a Spectrum 48k and Audio Tapes!

      You will never beat the mind blowing launch of the orginal GT. I remember buying EDGE magazine with the first ever GT review. Driving that TVR Grifith was a reveleation coming from Sega derived rubbish like Out Run.

  32. ...

    i can’t wait for ps4 ! im already bored of ps3 ..
    they must finish making ps4 in 2012 … ps2 released in 2000 and ps3 in 2006 so it should be out in 2011 >..< … people are really stupid .. they hate the good games and they like stupid games like halo xD .. this is really making me mad .. instead of trying to make a special game they make boring games ….

  33. riph78

    PD, Please start using new techonolgy /features to make production FASTER.Car manufacturer should give them CAD data if they want to participate in the GT if they are serious…

    1. Ollie

      That’s a very good idea, except the car manufacturers will only have CAD data on things like body panels. THey won’t have CAD for seats, pipes etc. For all we know they already are supplyng the data for some of the cars but PD still have to complete the modelling.

  34. ...

    i said this befor . if they will make gt6 they just gonna add new things in it but i didn’t think they will make it in ps4 i thought they will make it in ps3 but with 2 blueray xD

    1. Maxiboy

      Agreed. Whack all the special events and arcade mode stuff on one disc, and have all the GT-mode/online stuff on the other. Just like GT2.

    2. Razor BR

      or they could make what forza did , they split the game in two CD´s , one with the game and the other with addons and other stuff , but the second cd you intall it in the HD , and play with first cd only

  35. Dave-o

    I predict a gt6 will be released for PS3 in tje console’s twilight years to push out the sales a bit further, but this gt6 will only be gt5 with some cosmetic tweaks. What we mean when we say gt6 (next generation) will not be released until the PS4 is out (no doubt it will be the carrot to buy the PS4 in the first place)

  36. Team_MoFF-No2

    Beautiful news, and wow what a statement..

    PS3 is actually better then it is – so to speak ;o) Or (o:

  37. chris

    Gaming headline in morning

    NEWS JUST IN:: GT5 Delayed for another 4 years!!

    oh i wish they’d just release it now so if does fail with laggy screens we can get rid of PS3 before it depriciates to much haha

    1. DJSkyline701

      NEWS JUST IN:: My ps3 was just seen flying through my window…

      PS3
      Nov 2006 $600
      Jul 2010 $300

      Hasn’t it depreciated enough?!

    1. lilmann73

      Nah. See, Kaz is a perfectionist. Either GT12 in 2150 recreating how a pebble behaves when a wheel passes over at a certain speed, angle and tire pressure; or GT35 in 2869 recreating how each dust particle interacts with eachother when the pebble strikes the ground.

      Yes, Kaz and his team live that long because they are, in fact, Godly beings.

  38. Mickle Pickle

    GT6 on PS3 within the next three years: 2014.
    GT7 on “PS4” in 2016-2017.

    How is that ?….

    But until then GT5 will last me through 2015 at least… just to buffer any potential delays…

  39. Nick

    I have a feeling that a similar thing was said about GT4 cars, or that might have just been about the data collection for each cars?

    1. Razor BR

      or maybe combine them , i would be easier and faster , i mean they have the same tracks , grafics and , well the same style of game , so they could just combine them

    1. BWX

      Why the TVs not run on LED insted LCD ?? And the controller , wheel etc ?

      Hey how many people understand my quesion/statement? How about EiletheBear’s posts? I never know what the F he’s trying to spit out! LOL

  40. Raider

    How about releasing GT5 first before
    discussing the next one. It’s bad enough
    I have to look at 40 youtube videos a day
    before 11/02/10.

    1. Gods awnsering machine

      This is God. I’m sorry I am not available at the moment. If you’d care to leave your name and number, along with a brief prayer, I will be sure to get back to you after the world ends. (currently slated for 2012)
      And if this is my Son calling, no, you can’t borrow any more money. Get a job.

    2. Gods awnsering machine

      Son, you have been saying that for two thousand years. It is about time thou gets off thy buttocks and obtain some meaningful employment.

    3. Random Housecleaning Angel listening in...

      Geez, I guess carpenters just arn’t in demand anymore since the housing market went bust in the states……

    4. The Angel Of Death (and spelling)

      GOD!! Learn to spell “answering” before I stick a hot poker up your bottom….

      ….and wasn’t Joseph the Carpenter (supposedly)?? I’m sure he made a crucifix for me about 2000 years ago..

    5. Bell South

      @The Angel Of Death
      We’re sorry. Your number cannot be completed has dialed. Please hang up and try your call again.

    6. Gods answering machine

      @Angel of Death (and spelling)

      I am God, so I shall thank thee for pointing out my spelling error, and then I will smite you in a holy explosion that’ll show off my powers to my believers.

  41. lee

    I think his point is….NOT that they have outdone the PS3, because thats obviously not the case.
    But that what they have done so far beats what anyone else has done and will do, for both the PS3 and PS4, because no-one else has the time, patience or expertise (i.e. forza’s rushed cockpits) and when the next game is out on the PS4 they can improve even more…and no-one comes close. They are the best now and will be in the next installment. which, based on the current gt5 operating system…won’t take as long to make.

    its all good..

    1. FarkleNumbnutz

      Of course if they buggered it up and somehow didn’t surpass the PS3, they’d still tell you they did just because it doesn’t help sales to say “it’s crap, guess you’ll have to wait another five years for us to start over and try again in gt6”.
      Not saying that’s whats happening, but I don’t take any developer at 100% anymore either. Not since they’ve all started hyping every little thing on every little game, like its the best thing ever in the history of man.

    2. marcvic

      I agree with you FarkleNumbnutz(lol)… but EVERY game that comes out now hypes there game up with trailers… trailers that don’t quite seem to match up with the gameplay. EVERY game that advertises does it. It don’t think I’ve come across to many game commercials that actually use gameplay! Those car sounds from the GT5 trailers sound REALLY good… very realistic, however whenver the game comes out, we’ll see if those realistic tire sounds and engine sounds make it into the game. But anyways they said that each car takes around a month to complete, before. My guess is that Sony is tired of waiting also, so they cut their time short. Saying that everything is maxed out and done sounds like somewhat of a bailout to me… I’m not saying this IS that case… I’m merely throwing out a few possibilities. Still, however, can’t wait to eventually play the game and see how it turns out.

    1. LordVonPS3

      The simulation model for each car is most certainly unique. GT5’s physics engine is most likely more limited than the variety of telemetry data PD has captured per premium car. In other words, you can expect GT6 to have an even more advanced physics engine relating to all the other variables that PD has captured data for.

      Obviously we can also expect to see an increased polygon count per car and much higher resolution textures for the various surfaces and materials (interior and exterior).

      Realistic dynamic lighting with fully dynamic shadow mapping and a range of other advanced effects will be a welcome addition to GT6 as well as skid marks and improved tracks – esp. trees & spectators ;-)

      Looking forward to GT5…

  42. GamerGT5

    I really liked Kaz statement that makes alot of sense. It makes alot of sense about how PD have to get the operating system completed so when GT6 comes out it will be much easier to develop the game. So the people who’s a little disappointed about the whole standard/premium cars situation these are the main reasons why that we don’t get as much premium cars because their developing engine has to be develop. In one of the articles i heard the cars (premium) actually have graphics of the playstation 4. The big question is does GT5 have better graphics than GT5 prologue? If that’s true that’s really hard to believe.

  43. BLADErunner80

    Seems to me that they have intentionally made the premium cars overly detailed to make GT6 easier to produce, with each GT game they have to revisit previous cars they allready modelled because the gaming world moves fast and more and more detail is required.

    Now they have incredibly detailed models that will look great now but whenever PS4 comes about GT6 / 7 will be easier to make as the detail will be there just waiting to be switched on, leaving them more time to focus on giving other cars the premium treatment.

    1. MagicAyrton

      Well said Bladerunner80!! I agree with you totally.. let us hope that this is the case, I would like cockpits for all cars in GT6.. is this possible by November 2012??

  44. Rotard12a

    I’m sure what he means is that they’ve intentionally over designed the cars and they will scale them back as needed until they are just within the PS3’s maximum performance. He’s not saying they’re making a game that will fry your console duh. My guess is that they’ve created a damage system that is just too much. The poly models for the cars are pretty close to mature, so future games will probably have much more dramatic improvements in track detail and lighting

    He and his translators could use some lessons in clarity though…

  45. Madmurdock

    I hope GT6 is years away as I think GT5 will keep us busy for years. I want to concentrate on GT5 without GT6 being just around the corner.

  46. brettjr25

    No I think we’ll get GT6 in 2 or less years. The next generation of consoles is not coming anytime soon, defiantly not in 5 years from now so, it would be odd to expect GT6 to be on it.

    I think as soon as GT5 is out PD is going to start making every car a “premium” car for GT6.

    1. magicayrton

      Let us hope that is the case.. these cars NEED cockpits to complete the game.. I am very happy though!!!

    2. brettjr25

      Do standard cars not have cockpits or not have detailed cockpits. If all the cars in the PSP version had cockpits it’s hard to assume they wont in GT5. So if someone could clear this up for me…

  47. Blinkwing

    As is said!
    GT5 will be just a temporary version!
    Kaz waits for the next PS and then releases GT6, the ultimate and definitive racing game!

  48. zepheadGT3

    Wow, typical PD… Spend 5 years developing a game, only to find it goes beyond the system’s capabilities… And this is only for 200 cars.

  49. lalaurentide

    Well whether or not GT6 is to be release on PS3, they do have to premium other cars till they all are premium. If they did the game engine + only 200 cars within 5 years, it probably take another 5 years for 500 more cars and couple more tracks no?

  50. jimbo

    Just imagin the possibilties of a Playstation 4 if PS3 is already this awesome.. and how freakin’ intense GT6 will be. Oh My God i think i just cr*pped my pants thinking about its greatness

  51. yeti

    That’s all fine – GT5 has the ability to update itself – unlike GT<4…

    GT6 could well be saved for PS4… with yearly updates/DLC for GT5 – can't see that being a problem.

    C.

  52. aelange

    As long as they put the same attention to detail on the tracks as they do the cars, I’m a happy man!

  53. Jammy Dodger

    I’m not complaining much, but as nice as it is to have amazingly detailed premium cars, just put them to the level that the PS3 can cope. I’m sure we we won’t mind waiting again once GT5 comes out, we’ve waited long enough lol

  54. AGNT009

    Well, thats not encouraging. My PS2 would stutter trying to run GT4. If I see those same blurry hiccups on my PS3, Im going to be pissed.

  55. Paulo

    I don’t have that much time to myself anymore, so GT5 will last me a long time anyway. I am done waiting for it to come out already though.

  56. DJSkyline701

    Honestly, i wouldn’t even mind waiting another 5 years… GT4 gave me 4 years of entertainment, and with software updates, like GT5P, and potential DLC, GT5 could lasts way longer that 5 years, at least for me it can ;)

    1. tvensky

      NO, PC sucks for gaming.. I use it for work, internet and porn! :D no gaming.. only if you play strategies.. and Sony wont let GT on PC.. then all purpose of PS3 will be gone, and the BIG issue with piracy on the PC…

    2. funrun

      @tvensky apparently you’re clueless about what top-notch PC’s are capable of, but you’re right it will never fly because this is a multi-million dollar franchise built upon Sony.

    3. I Like My PC

      Dito. Built my own PC, and it’s light years over any current gen console, and uses the same GT force wheel, Xbox controller, and PS3 (style) controllers to play a number of the same games at better graphics settings and fps. Not to mention a number of games not on console, and I can upgrade with new tech has it comes out.
      But yup, GT is a PS franchise.

  57. Dom

    Don’t trust Kaz and his interviews. I am sure GT6 will be more than 5 years away. It’s a simply strategy, as the 200 premium models are made with the next gen PS4 in mind. I don’t expect a new hardware until 2013, more likely 2014 (in stores). If you add the laggar-problem of price sensitive console-customers, it will need another minimum of 2 years until we will see a big enough hardware-base to launch GT6. So all in all I expect GT6 for 2016-2017 in the best case!
    And it makes perfect sense, because Kaz and his team will need another 5 years to model the other 800+ cars to deliver the premium quality for all vehicles. And then there will be a PSP2 GT Mobile 2 and tons of DLC for GT5 to keep the team busy. And GT6 will require much more work on the tracks as well.
    I guess we will see like 8-9 (heartless, rubbish) Forza games until we get to see the full GT6 in stores for the PS4. Maybe, if we are lucky, we get a Prologue version again in 2015.

    It may all sound dramatic and negativ, but time flies and the next PS4 is probably less than 4 years away.

    1. tvensky

      yes, I think the gt6 will/ and has to be on ps3, just polished a lot. no more than 3 years after GT5 is released.. for sure..

  58. Big Ron

    When GT5 will be as good as it seems, then for GT6 they have nothing more to do than adding 800 other Premium cars and more features to the existing game. They did nothing else with GT3 to GT4.

  59. Raugie

    Hmm I don’t really care about when gt6 is coming out right now… I just can’t wait for gt5!!!!!

  60. lilmann73

    First they run out of space on a blu-ray disk, now the PS3 can’t handle the game’s level of detail. Possibly when the game is released, you have to purchase a fireproof and shock resistant TV so that it doesn’t explode upon starting the game.

  61. Rob

    I wonder how long GT5 will keep us entertained. Hopefully the online mode is brilliant because thats what keeps us playing C.O.D for years.
    Also there wont be another racing game like it until GT6.
    F1 2010 to keep me going :)

  62. neema_t

    I would not be surprised if they hold GT6 back for the next generation. If what Kaz is saying is true, that GT5 really pushes the PS3’s capabilities, then as long as they’ve designed it to be easily updated and with allowances made for easy integration of DLC, they could keep GT5 going for much longer than they used to. Console games used to end with the disc, that was it, done, but now with the internet and internal hard drives I find games last much longer than they used to, a good example being GTA IV, even if you did have to pay for the extras. GT5 could easily stay current, if not ‘fresh’ (you’d get used to the interface, after all), by adding cars as DLC as they are released in real life, and the physics can be tweaked and changed if necessary as we have seen with GT5P.

    In other words, with GT5, the wait for GT6 will most likely be far less painful. Of course, if I’m right, GT6 will really have to move the game on otherwise there would be no reason to buy it…

    1. viejaloca

      I hope you’re right about DLC ( Kaz did mention it right?). At least that will tide us over until GT6 after all, GT games do last really long adn with the DLC, even longer. I just hope that GT5 isn’t bugged with reading errors like GT4 because if it was still working, I’d still be playing it.

  63. DrSchrecklichkeit

    So basically he’s saying the PS3 isn’t good enough for his game? I’d love to hear Sony’s comment on this.

    1. neema_t

      @DrSchrecklichkelt, I think there’s a fair amount of scaling involved. Think of it like this: PC games have settings ranging from high to low, the high settings need a powerful PC and the low settings can be run on less powerful hardware. GT5 is probably built for very advanced hardware, whereas the PS3 is already over half the way through it’s life cycle, so they’ve just scaled it back a bit (or maybe a lot). When the next Playstation comes out they’ll up the settings and have the next game out much more quickly as they won’t have to build it all again for a higher spec machine.

    2. LoneWanderer

      Sony could either be dissappointed in their loss without GT5 or they’ll crap their pants by these statements and have something to brag about to forza’s devs.

    3. freeman140

      neema_t, you’re right. They probably modeled all those cars thinking ahead. that way they don’t have to model them again when the next generation of consoles comes out. If you notice, the high resolution pictures of nascar cars show the differences between in-game car models, and their very detailed modeled versions. they both look amazing, but the in-game screen-shots are less detailed to keep those fps high, and 16 cars per race.

    4. P37Mac

      neema_t, I can see where your coming from but I don’t think we will be looking at a faster release than GT5. If your right they will have 200 models ready to roll but but a lot of these will be out of date racers and would still leave 800 ‘standard’ models to redo as well as a shed load of new cars (I hope). Let alone 50+ tracks and new network implementation.

  64. scooter1265

    Wow, I really hope that GT6 won’t be pushed to the next console. It’s nice to see that there will be a GT6, and probably a 7, but I think it should be along the lines of GT3 and GT4. GT3 was for the PS2, and GT4 improved the graphics, added more bells and whistles, more cars, and more tracks. GT6 will probably be more than GT5. I just want to play the game already!

    1. GT_Nige

      Yes, but GT5 and the PS3 have the prospect of additional DLC and updates. Which could complety change the original game. Anyone who had the Jap GT5:P will know exactly how PD can transform something, and completely free!

    2. Jake

      Nowadays with DLC you can do jsut that…. continuous updating of the game, soem free and some extra…

    3. FlareKR

      We’re already talking about GT6? We haven’t even played 5 yet, lol. But didn’t every PS console (except PSP) have two GTs
      PS1 – GT1: The Beginning of Conquering
      GT2: Better graphics, more stuff added, like rally racing
      PS2 – GT3: Leap forward, more added
      GT4: I’m still playing it.

      PSP – GT: Like I said, I’m still playing it.

    4. RacecarBMW

      @FlareKR

      Well for the ps3 it would be gt5p then GT5

      hehe just kidding although GT5p is a full game compared to the other racers it’s not our full game

    5. akS2K16

      I agree guys. I believe what we get now is it for PS3. I’m sure we’ll get a small expansion pack or something. It’s going to be interesting nevertheless.

    6. Mitch

      If GT6 gets put off to the next gen PS4, I am just going to skip buying PS3 entirely.

      I am not going to waste my money for it.

    1. ADR_XCLUTCH

      I don’t think it’ll take five years during the PS4 gen. I think they will start the developement of GT6 after GT5. Maybe they can think about what GT6 is going to have and what features they want to add. Then, when SONY tells PD about the PS4 (before everyone) they will begin work on GT6 much like GT5.

      PD were the 1st to get information about the PS3 back in 2004. Once PD finished GT4, they began GT5.

    2. theyseemetrollin

      I think the ps4 will be multiple cell processors, after all sony has invested a huge amount in this tech and lost heaps, so i think it only makes sense that they use several of these in there new hardware. Not only this but it will make it easier for game designers going from ps3 to ps4. I expect the ps4 will be released at a much more reasonable price range, say usd $400 and have bluray and will include motion control IF the move proves to be successful.

    3. Tonystew42

      Yeah, but the PS3 is guaranteed to last at least 10-15 years, as the PS2 has shown. We’re on number 3. Plus, there is no way PD will be able to make a game GT quality anytime near the PS4 release day. Lastly, Sony has said they won’t be starting off the next generation.

    4. Bill

      ROFL 5 Years no fing way 10 if your lucky. This game will be good but not that good that it takes 8 years to make FFS its only an arcade racer. Please dont even think for 1 second it’s a sim cause it is not even close its a fun arcade racer with good, I mean ok graphics.

    1. Jakemania

      I think a better idea than DLC would be an expansion/add-on for 20-30 bucks if they are going to have GT6 on the PS4.

      Having track DLC can especially be difficult if they release them separately and not everyone has the certain track or even car if it’s a car specific series.

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