Since the PlayStation 3 encryption keys were published by hackers back in 2011, both GT5 and GT6 have been targeted by users looking to modify the games beyond their intended parameters. Although “hacks” have always been a part of video gaming and even the GT series, it now takes on a new seriousness, as it threatens the integrity and fairness of online competitions.
Although some who modified their games may have found only their PlayStation Network accounts banished in the past, Polyphony Digital is now taking things a step further, announcing yesterday that entire PlayStation 3 consoles will be banned from connecting to GT6 online services if they detect the player is using “illicitly modified game data”.
According to the notice posted on the official UK Gran Turismo website, the first console bans have already been established, and other consoles will be subject to penalties as soon as they are discovered.
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OMG! What type of hacks are they talking about? Unfortunately for me I have my cousin’s save game data on my PS3. Would that count as hacking? I took his because he had finished mostly of the licenses and had 17,000,000 credits so I said why not. Someone please answer me fast, I don’t have enough money to afford another PS3.
They’re talking about illegally modifying game data to make cars faster than they should be. Savegame trading doesn’t require modifying the game, so you’re fine.
Finally, no more hackers.
Finally! After so many years they did something, serious people are very happy that all stupids go away.
Quick question guys
have consoles. a modded one and untouched one.
i only used money cheat once to get an expensive car, if log in with my modded console will that be considered cheating!
Cool, I just played with a guy last week who claimed he wasn’t hacking. His car hit me and I went over 200mph; he blamed it on “lag.”
Lag is many, many, many times more common than hybrid cars so it’s highly likely he’s telling the truth.
I’ve been hit so hard from behind by lag before that I passed cars going 160+ down the straight after eau rouge at Spa… while I was spinning.
Mod, hack, illegal word. I am happy, if YOUR console is banned, if you mod something.
I see at least two guy, which are drive same lobby to me for hacked cars! This forum, and this guys: bye,bye losers :) Thx PD.
Good, about time.
If polyphony would like to take a look at this forum, I’m participating in a private conversation with several other members that have kept a running list of every hacker we come across in lobbies.
the only hack I use is the money hack so I don’t have to grind every time I want to buy a car…
So basically you are skipping the entire act of playing GT? Because honestly, that is what is so great about GT, its the most rewarding ‘grinder’ in the entire world. It doesn’t suit everyone, but that’s what your gonna get!
I don’t know how anyone would expect to be able to safely go online with a hacked game. I mean I’ve used modified games, but I’ve never used it with the online services. It’s likely that it will be detected sooner or later, and that’s not something I want to deal with. Hack all you want, just do it without logging in to PSN or whatever.
Good!
Where was this 3+ years ago? Too bad PS3’s are cheap now and the penalty of replacing a PS3 isn’t the same as it was 3+ years ago. Better late than never?
Jerome
GOOD WORK!
Looks like a fair amount of posts have been excised – last time I looked in, there were something like 270 and now it’s 114.
Shame I missed it, but there was a lot of stupidity being aired from what I saw.
pfffft I thought consoles would get b& entirely not just from game
As Kavey mentioned a few posts down, people accepted the terms and conditions of not only GT6 but also PSN where they are using there illicitly modified game data (dont give a monkeys how the hackers call it) over the PSN which is against its Terms and condtions. People were warned in GT5 they were also warned in GT6 earleir this year…. now they are still doing it then the ban hammer for consoles is used. Good. Maybe just maybe some idiots might just take note.
Obviously, the hackjobs saw this coming… even before 6’s release. Look on the bright side guys. You’re still allowed to play with yourselves ;)
oohhhh..i love playing with myself,except i just tore some webbing where you dont want to tear anything :(
I know I’m going to bite the bullet here, but this has been the best week for GT6 to date. For everyone saying that GT should have separated rooms for modding, you’re inane. This isn’t GTA where 3/4 of the users are stupid anyways. You start changing how the game is meant to be played, and that’s a very big no-no. They let you guys go for 18 months, and you still couldn’t take a hint. While I haven’t seen any online mods, I do actively participate in the seasonals and to know that I’ve been aiming to beat an impossible time is frustrating. It still effects a lot of people. PDI acknowledged it and said “We’re done watching you destroy our work.” Kudos to them. I’ll be in standing ovation.
If you are aware that a time is impossible to reach without using altered/modified content, then one can only wonder why you are bothering to reach said target time in the first place.
A bit of logical inconsistency with that statement of yours, sir.
People agreed to the terms and conditions which prohibit modifying game data. So PD are now banning those people that break terms and conditions.
Regardless of the intent of those hackers, whether used online or not (yeah sure ‘just offline, honest guv’), seems fair enough to me.
+1 Pitstop
^Well this post seems seriously out of context and unnecessarily bitter without the chain of “venom posts” that it responded to…
Will a mod please remove this as well? Thanks in advance.
So stupid. Give us what we want and people won’t have to find there own ways to get the full enjoyment out of your game. If people can mod why can’t it just be in the game. And don’t say there isn’t enough room or any bs like that.
spoken like a true hacker. What you guys fail to understand is that if you’d have kept it on the dl, and really just used your modded cars in private rooms, etc, as so many of you claim to do, then we would not be having this long winded debate. but, alas, you all could not do that. too many started showing up in online rooms and in the tt’s. so, it now has to be dealt with, because the hacker community could not self regulate. What truly amazes me is that, back around the time GT5 was coming to it’s end, there were rumors of console bans coming. You all chose to ignore those warnings, and now, what, you’re surprised??
I seen people usimg AWD cars drifting backwards. I don’t mind seeing hacks like lowering the car even more or extra camber. Glad I’ve excepted the games for what they are.
Clearly, you don’t do the weekly challenges, and monitor the leader board…
I’m glad they are taking this action. Yes, I am positive that some of you are correct and some ‘modders’ only did what they did to have different colored cars, or vehicles that were lowered to the ground, etc. They didn’t mod their cars to cheat anyone. Still, I am glad that they may be console banned for taking this course of action. Why? Because they agreed to a ToS when they installed this game. If they don’t like it, they should not have agreed to a legal document stating that they wouldn’t ‘mod’. How many users on THIS website do you see mentioning the AUP (Acceptable Use Policy) on this website? You’re not allowed to use text-speak, for example. Why not? Who is it hurting? No one. However, we all agreed to the AUP before joining this website. The funny thing is, I’ve seen many GTPlanet members respond to others in the forums accusing them of breaking the AUP, like they just committed a murder, yet they scream for the right to ‘mod’ their cars whenever they want. That’s just typical “Well, I only want to follow the rules I feel like following…” attitude.
+1. I don’t think that most people who hacked/modified game data are trying to ruin everyone else’s good time, but from a legal standpoint, this really is the only justifiable discourse. While I personally don’t believe it will stop them from getting back onto the servers in some way/shape/form, there is a price for not obeying these ToS in full. I will never say good riddance, but instead of extracting unusable pieces of game, you need to either make a point of having them allow us more of these features, or simply find a game that will cut it for you.
Excellent news.
Before the advent of online console gaming back during the days of the good ol 16-bit cart based systems i.e. SNES, Genesis etc and the PS1, N64 days, hacking games was a fun way to gain an advantage when playing and since you were harming no one, it was great but now with online gaming, cheats/hacks are ruining a lot of the online experience that many gamers enjoy.
I don’t have an issue with it if that’s how you want to play your game on your console but please refrain from cheating and using hacks online.
LOL!
This is tragic, well, not really. I’d be banned right away if the “modding” community built out that garage/save editor, but alas, that will never happen. They’ve kept the “modding” out of the hands of the avg user, so you’ll get no support from me on this one boys.
And I’ve never had a “modder” ruin my game online, so I could care less if it continued or not.
You “Modders” are the reason why I refuse to play online. Too much immaturity and too many bad experiences. Not only with Gran Turismo, but a slew of other games. I don’t care if you are only modding offline, you all are showing a flagrant disregard for the game’s terms and conditions policy. Disregarding the rules makes you a jerk because you think you are better than the rest of us by tampering with the game files. And if you act like jerk, you’re gonna get what’s coming to ya. Goodbye. Arrivaderci. Bon Voyage. See ya wouldn’t wanna be ya. I wouldn’t be this biased if most of you didn’t behave like spoiled children.
When we buy consoles and games, we should be allowed to mod offline but never online. Lets say you go out and buy a 2014 Corvette and you want to “upgrade it” to do what GM didn’t intend for it to do, does GM still own the right to tell you you can’t mod your car after you have plunked down your money to buy it.
Just saying although I agree with you to a point.
Of course you can do whatever you wish with your Chevy.
It’s yours, so why not?
But take that Chevy onto public streets and it needs to abide with certain rules, because if it doesn’t and you get caught you’ll be fined or worse.
+1
Are they really THAT abundant online? So much so that your ENTIRE online experience must be cancelled out COMPLETELY? And they all think they’re better than everyone else? Really? THEY’RE jerks? Really? THEY’RE the ones that are acting like a spoiled child? Really?
::Amazement::
Touche Aussie_HSV. But a private place for them to gather away from the public should be allowed too.
I understand what you are saying, Ice, but that is a slippery slope. Once you turn a blind eye to any form of illegally modding cars, then it becomes easier for others to justify what they are doing. It alway will come back to the same thing…weather you do it in ‘private’ or in a public lobby, it is now, and will alyways be a violation of the T&C agreement we all signed. Anyone who tries to justify it, in ANY way, is wrong, and comes across as a petulant child.
Can you quote the law that says it’s illegal to mod cars please.
Clearly, and for obvious reasons, the whole issue is related to online play.
As much as I play almost every night for hours, I’m almost exclusively only in private lobbies with friends.
And personally I don’t care what the TT global leaderboards show, my only interest is how I stand up against my friends.
So modding doesn’t effect me one way or another.
The only option is for PD to create lobbies for modded cars.
Very much doubt that will ever happen.
So the only option is a blanket rule for any modified game.
“Please be aware that usage of illicitly modified game data and any mischievous conduct against other players using such data are strictly prohibited, and will be subject to penalties as soon as they are found.”
Posted April 16th for PSN online Id bans and again now for console bans.
No doubt also posted during GT5 days.
It’s nothing new, we all know that, and asking for ‘quotes’ is being pedantic.
PD makes the game, PD makes the rules.
Hard to argue with really.
Seriously, johnnyp? ‘quote the law’? that’s all you’ve got? Illegal in terms of violating the terms and usage policy that we ALL agreed to before playing the game. clear now, yea?
I apologize if English isn’t your first language Pitstop, but where I come from “illegal” means against the law. No laws are being broken here and to suggest as much as just hysteria. Some guys broke into a game and cheated. Yes it should be taken care of, but IMO this isn’t the way to do it because modders won’t be affected by this at all. PD could as a minimum, introduce some checks and balances into the TT’s and introduce at least one TT every round with a provided car, or a fixed car option but with hidden parameters in the background that are equal to the maximum values possible for that car.
Give it a rest.
The use of the word ‘illegal’ is perfectly valid in this context, and doesn’t have to relate purely to criminal law.
Good.
Not sure why folks are complaining that PD is doing this, it’s their IP and the game must be playable online for those who bought it to play as intended. If the hacks were kept to a minimum and idiots weren’t using them to annoy and troll individuals lobbies I doubt that PD would have been so adamant about bringing the Hammer down on so many heads. With great power comes great responsibility, these idiots who thought it was cool to use hacked cars to cheat and end up on the top of Leaderboards are pathetic and the others who think it’s cool to mess up someone’s race by having cars with insane HP and ramming cars off the road have caused all the ire.
PD is clearly in the right choosing to ban consoles, will innocent folks get banned perhaps but that can be rectified but I doubt that it will happen in great numbers, regular game saves that have never been hacked would not alert PD but a save that has been tampered with should(depending on the algorithm they are using to seek out hacks). PD just released the Community update which brings organized racing series online to the forefront, this is to be expected to protect their patrons. I have issues with modding but with the individuals who do stupid things like joining races to mess things up or using it to cheat on Time Trials just to be at the top of a leaderboard, there are folks with skill who drove themselves up there…perhaps you aren’t that good but that’s ok not everyone can make it to the top.
I’ll believe it when I see(my ranks improve in leaderboards closer to realistic times, not “8s nowhere to be found in a 1:00 lap time)” it.
would anyone devote time to capturing current top 5,000 leaderboard names to see if they maintain top position in future time trials?
Modder’s and Hackers in GT6?? i have never seen a single one in gt6. How many times i went to a lobby and found a hacker in gt6? Never, it was always back in gt5.
5 was filled with hackers LOL
+1 ToyGTone: But I haven’t really played GT6 regularly since the early summer. I only fire it up for updates and new content as of late.
Do you do the weekly tt events? Clearly you do not, or you would have seen the results of hackers in the Mt. Panorama 500pp ff eventl
Hackers are almost never found in circuit racing lobbies on native tires. Even in GT5 when hacking was a piece of cake, the only hybrids I ever saw were in my own “Hybrid Friendly” rooms and the rooms of my online friends who had similar titles. The people with the unrealistic hacks usually hung out in the free run rooms and the rooms that used the unrealistic RS tires because you could use the Racing Super Softs in those lobbies and you needed all the grip to get the power down.
I hope they don’t ban innocent folks by mistake….these things are never perfect and “oops” are bound to happen sooner or later. Hopefully they also thought of a way to “un-ban” consoles that were mistaken for an “illicit modified thingymajigy” files…
The only “grinches” I see, are the people bashing the mod community so furiously with these narrow minded, bogus, biased, unjust, discriminative preconceived misguided notions that every single person that has ever had or did a mod or hack is a good for nothing, no good, two-bit cheater.
And Tenacious, you’re being the biggest “grinch” of them all. A walking contradiction man…
You people are so quick to dismiss someone and treat them as insignificant. It’s an aspect of this community that I seriously can’t stand…
^Well this post seems seriously out of context and unnecessarily bitter without the chain of “venom posts” that it responded to…
Will a mod please remove this as well? Thanks in advance.
(The accidental one below too please?)
I am new player and I had just using the AMG VGT bugs to make some money. Will I beiing banned soon? I am very afraid.
You have nothing to worry about!
“Idiots”, “cheaters”, “hackers”, “pathetic”, “… should burn”, “good riddance…”, “won’t be missed…”, etc.
Man, the ignorance and bias is strong with this one, hmm…
Looking at some of these posts is really disheartening. Replace a few choice words, and some of you sound as ignorant as racists.
Having a hacked car makes you no more a cheater than owning a weapon makes you a murderer, or being minority makes you a criminal.
Just because you have it, doesn’t mean you will use it in the wrong manner.
Although I do agree they should not be allowed for events and that a way to expel them should be found, I however cannot support a console ban of the hybrid community who has been hybriding since GT1 & PS1 days.
Amongst these there are also lesser modifications that have no bearing on performance and are purely cosmetic or a way to save time. Some just modded their money to save time from grinding (which considering the “DLC(?)” which uses real hard earned cash to simply change an in-game numerical value governed by 1’s & 0’s, I don’t blame them…), and others may have done it for a paint mod, to paint an unpaintable car, a “hella-flush” ride, slammed with big rims for style, something else, how someone choosing to play and enjoy Gran Turismo doesn’t make their definition of “fun” less important than another’s… It simply makes it different. Just as drifting is different than racing, and photo taking is different than drag racing. How people enjoy GT, in “some part” should be up to them.
I just think a console ban is too harsh. To my understanding, a console ban is a PS3/PSN death sentence. And these are people who own GT6 (and likely have owned other GT’s), therby supporters of Sony/PD. Say what you will, but loyal fans treated like that WILL be missed. They’re every bit as important as you or I, and a console ban is not the resolution imo.
I just think some of you should stop casting stones @ a following you don’t understand. It’s not right to group them altogether and judge them all because of the actions of some. It’s a prejudice that is unjust and unnecessary, and an alternative course of action needs to be found.
Just because you think its unjust because of the “modder community” doesn’t really mean its a unjust action, what goes on is against the ToS anyways, and the people who use it 95% of them abuse it, you 5%’ers that just “have fun amongst yourselves” aren’t the issue, even though I don’t agree with it at all period but, the issue is the people who do ruin the fun. Also, before you or any other modder gets upset, that little thing you click “accept terms and agreements” has things like this listed in there, don’t like the ToS? don’t play the game and don’t hate the actions that are justified BY the ToS. That’s really all I have to say on this matter.
I don’t think they mean a full console ban as typically spoken of which means no access to the PSN full stop.
But a console ban from accessing GT6 servers, as opposed to simply a PSN Id ban from accessing the GT6 servers.
And to my mind that’s fair enough.
It a clear breach of both the PSN and PD’s T&C’s.
And should either party be aware of it they really have no option but to act.
Keep in mind people do get full console bans for simply breaching PSN T&C’s.
And it’s not as if those who modify their game data don’t recognise they are doing something they shouldn’t.
Whether people think modifying data is a big deal or not.
Rules are rules, and they are there for a reason.
And clearly SONY or PD aren’t just going to turn a blind eye.
Do the crime, get caught, do the time.
I support a console ban for the people that used modded cars on time trials/drift trials. But for their own use offline, and just screwing around with friends online, I cannot find myself getting behind a ban for that.
Great post and I agree 100% with you!
+1 @Progress.
@ CRXFREAK:
It’s more likely that 95% of the cheaters you run into are hackers, than it is that 95% of all hackers & modders are cheaters. It’s the 5% that you’re running into and witnessing cheating online.
Color me “prejudice”. It doesn’t matter… not going to change a thing. At least no one’s going to lose their life over it.
Can you guarantee your “friends” show the same restraint as you proport to have?
I hacked GT3 and 4. It was a lot of fun. If I had the time and/or knowledge to hack anything now, I probably would. If I had spent all that time and effort in doing so, I’d be peeved too.
Knowing how I “truely” rank in the world of GT is important to me. I hope the ban comes sooner than later. And no… I haven’t noticed any illicit activity in 6. But my TT rankings have fallen from the 10thousands to the 20thousands. Even though I was a late entry into 6’s community, it’s hard to believe that so much speed has been lost.
“But my TT rankings have fallen from the 10thousands to the 20thousands. Even though I was a late entry into 6’s community, it’s hard to believe that so much speed has been lost.”
We’re getting older bro’, and time moves forward. It’s not that you’ve gotten slower, it’s that more of the world has gotten faster. Someone went from being a kid to a teen, and someone else from a teen to an adult. They’re all, likely improving and sharpening their skills to reach faster times… Competition doesn’t ease over time… It only gets fiercer.
I don’t know about modding myself, but I find it hard to believe that there are +10 thousand people hitting up the leaderboards… But then again, I haven’t really played GT6 lately, and I don’t really try for world rankings anymore.
Don’t get me wrong. I agree, if people are using mods in global trials, they should be banned. Something like…
“Your account has been found to have modified data that infringes upon the ToS. This is an infraction on your account”. Please remove all illicitly modified data from PS3, or your account and PS3 will be banned.”
And the focus should be on the leaderboards.
I’m sure with the club system, there are people who wanted to make exclusive “Hella Flush” clubs, Monster Truck mods clubs, Wheelie mods club, High Speed mods clubs, and 2-Wheel mods clubs (a combination of mods and setups that allows players to drive long distances on 2 wheels). Would’ve been cool to see the stuff people came up with (or might still come up with knowing them).
Many could care less about leaderboards. The ones I know, did it for style. I did it on TDU2 to get any car painted, level 4 tuning, and Gumpert Apollo’s and FXX’s in my garage. I’m not gonna lie, if I’d like to paint an FT-1 VGT blue, or many of the unpaintable race/VGT cars. But I’m not jail-breaking my PS3 just for that, and I’ve invested too much into the PS Store over the last 6 years, to have a console ban render all my purchases useless and unobtainable. I also have a racing team with 30+ active members to look after, so nah. Not worth it, but cool to witness. I wish car gifting was still an option…
Will this affect the people that exploited the AMG VGT credit glitch?
that wasn’t hacking. It was a glitch/bug that the game allowed.
Great news and well done PD. It’s about time this crap got dealt with.
Good news, but… I can only think the scumbag hackers will find a way around. I wouldn’t be impressed.
Let’s hope cheater will be locked for good… They wanna cheat? Then they should play games like DooM with IDKFA or IDDQD… Not mess with games like GT5/GT6.
I don’t care if anyone hate me for saying that. My view, My opinion, My way of seeing it, Yada, Yada, etc.
What makes them all scumbags?
Well, okay. Not all of ’em. I got overly zealed when I saw the article, whatever. I know modders can be pretty damn awesome, i.e. in… that mining game, but in GT6… oh pfft, look, no matter what I’d say I’ll get blasted. I’d rather just end this convo now.
YES!!! Thank you Polyphony Digital. I’d you need to mod GT6 then you should not be playing GT6. I got into a lobby with a guy yesterday who had a car with 1500hp. I can’t remeber what car it was but it was a stupid high HP for the car that it was. Hope every single modded/hacker gets what they deserve. GT5 was messed up for so long when people modded it. It’s ridiculous if the only way for you to win is to have an unfair advantage over other people who play legitimately. Thanks PD for staying sting with this.
**Thanks PD for staying *Strong* with this. Typo above.
You’re not making much sense. But… oh well, one less grinch to clutter my reading time.
I haven’t seen a nodded car online for quite some time…………..
Modded
That’s because they are extremely rare. The hyperbole around here would make one think that they are pervasive online and that just isn’t the case.
Johnnyp….do you work for Sony? lol. Extremely rare? seriously? check out the leader board for the last tt at Mt. Panorama…..I’ll wait, go on….
No thanks. If you want to do the research and count the number of obvious hacks and divide by the number of entrants, be my guest. If it’s higher than 0.5% I’d be shocked.
It takes a lot of work and effort to make these games, what did you guys expect? They weren’t going to let this slide by, you hackers are getting what you deserved.
Now i was not going to comment on this but i see so many cheaters crying about this…first of all…have any of you cheaters taken the time to read the terms and conditions of the game when you first boot it up??? Nop..ok well.there it says that PD has the right to Ban you from GT online services …since you all agree to damn thing with out reading. I know that console ban its a big thing. But you knew that cheating comes with risk..this is one of them. Soo if you have 2 consoles fine. You got.your lesson if you only have 1 ?? Well ….you get my point. Pce!
I’m laughing out loud. That’s what you idiots get for cheating, and messing with the game.
It’s one thing if you want to play with modded cars offline but you idiots never keep it offline. Cheaters.
Plus, altering their work like that is just disrespectful and you’re finally getting what you deserve.
Good riddance.
I agree. Good riddance.
BUT…
The reason these people were online is…
Whats the point in doing some crazy mod if u can’t show it off?
It might have been better to have a couple of online mod lobbies. Then, if u wanted to see or show off some crazy stuff, you could.
U have to admit. Some of those mods were funny to watch.
@vrossi do they notice anyone who gets online with the modded files
or is it just the people who join public lobbies? ’cause I think it’s fine as long as something like that is done on a private lobby with friends who wouldn’t report you.
Why are they all idiots? How do you know they’re all cheatres? What if they’re online, in private lobbies, with other modders just showing off to each other their creations the same way tuners do at car meets and street shows in real life? Are they still cheaters then?
@SZRT Ice
Yes, they are all idiots for breaking the rules in PSN and GT6’s Terms of Service. They get what they deserve
+100 tombrady, trobes
The ignorance is strong here. Anyone that thinks this is going to keep hackers/modders off of GT6 is delusional…lol.
Maybe PD will finally get a HINT
Funny. Very funny. If anyone with half a brain knew how computers and software, etc, etc. works, they’d get that this isn’t going to stop modders. I don’t even mod and I already know how to get around it all. It’s truly comical. And seeing everyone argue and complain about this topic just makes it that much more hilarious. I’ll get hate for my comment (GTP at it’s finest), but there is always a way around. Always. Always has been. Always will be. It’s just how technology works.
your so rite.. Modding & cheat codes have been around since the begging of the Atari days.. i never modded GT6 cause it is harder.. But I’ve done Allot to other games.. Like raced the blue NFS BMW M3 GTR in Dirt 3.. So i think they should not Ban the hackers. But maybe offer them a design job at the company or even lessen to what they want in the game. i could say more. But i might get banned from GTpluto lol
DAMMMN. They said, enough is enough.
good news and fair
Absolutely. I wish other game publishers took this just as seriously.
Not surprised nor disappointed by this news. Their are many layers to something like this. Security, both for the game, PD’s networks as well as PSN. Also for content, many games, GT6 included add’s cars with updates that are not available until some time after the update. With so many new Vision cars here and coming, big updates coming in, and who knows as the 1 year anniversary comes up, it makes sense that they would be looking to step up the consequences for hacking their game. I wouldn’t doubt there being some pressure from their partners that they are building the Vision cars with to step up security measures as well.
I know the drifter and stance communities are going to be in an up roar. You can thank the 15 year old who thinks he’s a savvy hacker and building the ridiculously obscene car and taking into lobbies for this really. I kinda feel PD gave the benefit of the doubt for a little while. It really did take them a while to finally bring out the ban hammer.
I have NO tolerance for hackers. You can sugar coat it any way you want, saying ‘it’s not hurting anyone’, but here’s my point…. I compete in the weekly time trials every fortnight, and enjoy the tuning and competion of it. I have spent a great deal of time perfecting my tunes, and getting the most from my cars. I don’t know how to hack, and am not interested in learning how. So, should someone who knows how to manipulate the sytem by hacking finish in front of me? with an illegally modified car? I think not, therefore, I am very glad they are being banned. Good riddance.
So if i get it right.banned from online service, but not banned from updating the game.
They have to “buy” the Vision cars instead of the online hotlap.
O wait, they hack the savegame and have all cars free.
I don’t mind hacking, but the stupid stuff in the online hotlaps, they did it them selves.
I do agree with the statement, hackers should be able to use hacked lobbies.
But then again, i’m not Polyphony.
I don’t think hackers will cry, most of them have two consoles.
The little kiddies that want to try the hacked stuff? Oew, they will cry..and their parent will rant a lot.
“I don’t think hackers will cry, most of them have two consoles.
The little kiddies that want to try the hacked stuff? Oew, they will cry..and their parent will rant a lot.”
Yep, I think this exactly. If it weren’t for the fools doing crazy cars in the open lobbies and seasonals and such, I am not sure PD would have started banning. They were tolerant at least of modders for a while. Though I have to admit, I find it strange that you can still update if banned. I think that sorta defeats one aspect of the punishment. Probably a legal requirement since it is game content.
“IF” I get it right, i did not write that i was 100% sure that banned consoles can update the game.
And about those fools, You wrote 15year old kiddies, than believe me, there are enough 30 and 40 year old kiddies.
Anyway. It happened, clock can’t be turned back, so hackers have to live with it.
I guess I have been lucky. Haven’t seen any hacked rides in my lobby as of yet. Hopefully I don’t jinx it.
Do you have hacked cars in your savegame? Hacked cars in your GT6 garage?
If not, jinx all you can, read the text, hacked savegames, not lobbies with other hacked rides.
Maybe you misunderstood my post. I meant that I have not seen anyone driving a hacked ride in any of the lobbies that I have hosted since I have been playing GT6. I have not modded my save game files or have any hacks myself. Just saying that I have not seen them.
Yes i misunderstood, because you started with “I guess i have been lucky” and the article title is?
No problem for me.
He was saying it in response to another’s complaints about modders in online lobbies.
I know, he cleared that up, and my responce was “yes i misunderstood” and why i misunderstood.
No problem for me-> So now i understand his post.
Then again, he can jinx it, hacked savegames can’t enter online, so lobbies and season events are “no enter” from now on.(if the article statement is valid)
Good! Make those PS3’s explode and burn in fire! (for those who cheat online I mean). I respect these kind of moves and now will support PD even more!
We shall see about these “console bans”. PD should get off the high horse and take a lesson from what people REALLY want. Take GTA for example, they put a cone on their head and sent them to modded lobbies.
Instead of a helmet, they’ll have a Gran Turismo Dunce hat. Haha.
+1 805350z
Good news.
I hope this doesn’t include the week one Mercedes credit glitch. I know this guy who did that a couple of times.
That wasn’t hacking / game save editing. Just a loophole.
That’s not considered hacking, it’s just an exploit through normal game operation. If you didn’t modify any game data, including the save data, then you’ll be fine.
Its bad when someone uses hacked car to easy win, but when used right it could be much fun.
It’s pd’s game to tool around with into they give permission to mod.
GOOD.
WOW….mixed feelings…..online games should be FAIR……but I hate the big brother thing.
While I share the feeling, you unfortunately have the people who cheat that far outnumber the ones that don’t and its those in particular that are ruining it for everyone.
I certainly don’t see it as big brothering. they aren’t over doing it and prying into all of your activity and monitoring your every move. They are simply protecting their product.
“you unfortunately have the people who cheat that far outnumber the ones that don’t”.
This is comical. Most people have never even seen a hacked car in GT6, the modding is nothing compared to what it was in GT5 and even then it was rare that a hybrid would show up in a lobby.
^This
Also, every modded private online lobby is not seen by the masses. So more than likely, the ones “that don’t”, far outnumber the few that do.
Amazing, the stuff people believe they know without ever actually knowing…