Honda NSX, really?

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Here's the newest NSX. The NSX-R GT. For a cool $425,000 you can have an NSX with the look of a JGTC NSX race car....BUT WITH THE SAME STOCK ENGINE AS ALL OTHER NSX's. It's still pushing only like, 290HP. They've done nothing to the engine on this thing. Granted, it looks cool as hell, but I don't want to spend $425,000 on a body kit and a huge air intake nozzle.

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Here's the newest NSX. The NSX-R GT. For a cool $425,000 you can have an NSX with the look of a JGTC NSX race car....BUT WITH THE SAME STOCK ENGINE AS ALL OTHER NSX's. It's still pushing only like, 290HP. They've done nothing to the engine on this thing. Granted, it looks cool as hell, but I don't want to spend $425,000 on a body kit and a huge air intake nozzle.

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I think there's only 50 or less being made. These are being bought by big car collectors. In 50 years, it may be worth near $425,000 though I doubt it.
 
NSX-R
Have you guys heard that NSX is discontinuned?

Damn it!

On a happier note, the new one is on the way!
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I know is sucks. I really liked the car, but it is going to be the new or is replacing the NSX.



Heres a picture. Looks really cool. Plus I think the Acura name should be gone and just leave it as Honda and the name changing like RSX/Integra, TSX/Accord, ect.
 
The HSC is supposedly canned. There's a different one coming according to Honda.
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TORRANCE, Calif. 07/11/2005 -- To further enhance the division's performance image, Acura is developing a new sports car to succeed the award-winning NSX supercar. Acura also announced that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of the year due to the extensive retooling necessary to meet stringent 2006 emissions and equipment regulations for the U.S., Europe and Asia.

"We are committed to having an ultra high-performance vehicle in the Acura lineup in the future," said John Mendel, senior vice president, automobile operations. "It's too early to comment on specifics, but the all-new model will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX."

As the first-ever supercar from Japan, the NSX was created as a hand-built, exotic, mid-engine sports car that would establish entirely new levels of performance, refinement and drivability. The NSX went on sale in the summer of 1990 and the following year posted record U.S. sales of 1,940 vehicles. Through June of 2005, NSX cumulative sales totaled 8,854 in the U.S. and more than 18,000 worldwide.

During its 15-year run, the NSX has been showered with accolades including, Automobile Magazine's "Automobile of the Year and Design of the Year" awards, Popular Science's "Best of What's New," Road &Track's "Ten Best Cars in the World" list. Motor Trend magazine also named the NSX to its "Top Ten Performance Cars" list and touted it as "the best sports car ever built."

Acura designed the NSX as a technological and performance showcase. Among other innovations, it was the first production car to feature an all-aluminum body, chassis, and suspension and to utilize titanium connecting rods. It featured a transversely mounted dual overhead cam V-6 engine equipped with Acura's breakthrough VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) system and a variable volume induction system.

Over time, the NSX received continuous updates to ensure its competitiveness and popularity with serious sports car enthusiasts. The NSX has also captured multiple championships in the highest levels of sports car and prototype racing.

---- Press release ends - below is the news item we released earlier tonight

We've just received word that a memo was circulated to Acura dealers today regarding an announcement that will be made "this evening" with respect to the future of the NSX. In particular the memo advises that production of the current generation NSX will cease at the end of this year due to strict '06 standards for emissions and equipment in US, Europe and Asia.

In addition, the memo says that "it is too early to discuss specific details" (of the next NSX model), but it continues by saying that this "ultra high-performance vehicle will be just as groundbreaking as the 1991 NSX was when introduced fifteen years ago."
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NSXs are ending due to '06 emission standards.
 
yaoming3000
buy used and supercharge...ive seen a video of professional drivers with 2 ferrari's and 1 nsx-r and the nsx owned for about 5of 7 laps
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That was a Best Motoring video. It was a NSX-R vs. Lamborghinia Murcie vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Vs. Porsche 911 Turbo Vs. BMW M3 CSL Vs. Ferrari 360 Modena. I think that was the line of the cars that raced.

Track was Twin Ring Motegi, 5 laps I believe. The NSX-R led 4 out of 5 laps, lost on the straight, finished 3rd. The 2 Lambos finished 1st and 2nd.

I recommend everyone watch Best Motoring - Legend of VTEC. You'll be amazed of what the NSX-R, Integra-R, Civic-R, S2000 can do.
 
Mr Laocean
That was a Best Motoring video. It was a NSX-R vs. Lamborghinia Murcie vs. Lamborghini Gallardo Vs. Porsche 911 Turbo Vs. BMW M3 CSL Vs. Ferrari 360 Modena. I think that was the line of the cars that raced.

Track was Twin Ring Motegi, 5 laps I believe. The NSX-R led 4 out of 5 laps, lost on the straight, finished 3rd. The 2 Lambos finished 1st and 2nd.

I recommend everyone watch Best Motoring - Legend of VTEC. You'll be amazed of what the NSX-R, Integra-R, Civic-R, S2000 can do.
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I have the BestMOTORing Roaring Vtec.
 
I just hope the NSX goes back to Honda here in North america, and not stick with Acura having it give a gay name to it, to kill the NSX name. just like they did with the Integra calling it the RSX which is a very retarted name for the car and to other standard vehicals they have..hope they give it to honda and have it have its respected name "NSX"
 
As said above Acura is the North American division of Honda. They can offer pretty much the same cars as other places in the world which those cars are labeled under Honda. For example in the U.S. they discontinued the Integra and replaced it with the RSX but other regions of the world get this same car but labeled as a Honda Integra. Same with the TSX it the same as a Honda Accord in other areas of the world. I think the reason they had the NSX under the Acura label here in the U.S. is to jump start the division. What better way to get lots of attention to a new division of Honda in the states then to use a car like the NSX with it. If they had never made Acura it would have been labeled as Honda here too. Honda also has a few cars that go by different names in other areas of the world. For example, from what I have heard the CRX we have here is just labeled as a Civic instead of CRX else where. I don't know if this is true or not though. If it is somebody please correct me. As for the NSX being discontinued I believe that the car just wouldn't do well. I mean for 290hp is not worth the price to me and most people I know. We think the car is beautiful but you can easily get a cheaper car to the same power as the NSX for a fraction of the price. I also saw somebody that posted earlier saying they wish the GT-R would be available in the U.S., well your wish is coming true. They are bringing the Skyline to the states in 2007 I believe. I don't think that will be worth the price either. It's pretty much from what I have read about it a G35 or 350Z chassis with a VQ engine in it. They still haven't decided as far as I know though it will be turbo or NA. Well I guess this is long enough so I'ma go now.
 
Honda should beef up the hp on the new NSX if they are going to make a new one, maybe more exotic like Nissan's R390. Now that car just looks amazing. I think only one was built though like the Toyota GT1.
 
~SpoonDC5~
I just hope the NSX goes back to Honda here in North america, and not stick with Acura having it give a gay name to it, to kill the NSX name. just like they did with the Integra calling it the RSX which is a very retarted name for the car and to other standard vehicals they have..hope they give it to honda and have it have its respected name "NSX"
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If I was Honda and had a luxury/high-class division called Acura to play with...I'd release the NSX with the Acura badge. I don't think I'll get used to seeing Acura TSX's badged as a Honda Accord, I'm used to seeing Honda with nice family sedans with somewhat options of luxury.

As for the Integra, it's not much of a change. It doesn't affect sales as much just to change a name of a car from Acura Integra to Acura RSX. I prefer RSX anyways.
 
umfogotmyname21
They are bringing the Skyline to the states in 2007 I believe. I don't think that will be worth the price either. It's pretty much from what I have read about it a G35 or 350Z chassis with a VQ engine in it. They still haven't decided as far as I know though it will be turbo or NA. Well I guess this is long enough so I'ma go now.
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The CURRENT Skyline is an FM chassis (same as the G35) with a VQ in it. It's already in the US as the G35. The upcoming GT-R will have said chassis with a different engine-drivetrain combo in it. Most likely it will be a development of the V8 in the Q45 or a twin turbo VQ32DETT development (which pushes out 500hp in JGTC restricted trim... so yes, it can produce more power). Considering G35s and 350Zs are relative bargains considering the cars they compete with, how can you say the next GT-R won't be worth the money?


McLaren F1GTR
NSXs are ending due to '06 emission standards.
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It's dying because they're not selling enough to justify spending on emission and safety changes to keep the car current. At under 500 cars a year for a car "only" costing 90k, it's hard to justify Honda putting more money into the aging platform.

Great car... better than most, and definitely competitive on-track with cars in and above its price range. Shame about the power thing. :(
 
Personally I have always thought the NSX was a waste of money and that car was Japan's only response to the Ferrari and Lambo and even now and back in 66' the Ford GT and Pantera (1976-83 I think with MR car died because of fuel crisis). But I wonder what japn will be like now that one of the companies have broken the unwritten rule of 276 as a max so we might actually be getting good powerful cars from japan.
 
Although there was this gentlemen's agreement to not go over 276 HP in Japan, many cars produce more than that stock. The companies just quote the maximum. Now that the gentlemen's agreement is off though, I'm excited to see how high the Japanese companies will take the HP war.
 
niky
The CURRENT Skyline is an FM chassis (same as the G35) with a VQ in it. It's already in the US as the G35. The upcoming GT-R will have said chassis with a different engine-drivetrain combo in it. Most likely it will be a development of the V8 in the Q45 or a twin turbo VQ32DETT development (which pushes out 500hp in JGTC restricted trim... so yes, it can produce more power). Considering G35s and 350Zs are relative bargains considering the cars they compete with, how can you say the next GT-R won't be worth the money?

The reason I say that is because I think that just because it has a Skyline badge and so many people want them in the U.S. that the price will be a really hefty one. I'm thinking it will probably be somewhere in the 50k range or higher. They may suprise me and keep it lower than that and if they do I think it will definately be worth the money then.
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I'd say 50k would be reasonable... and if it handled like the old GT-R with American-level power, then yeah! If they charge Viper prices... well... if it could take on the Viper on the track, wouldn't that still be worth it?

AFAIK, it won't have a Skyline badge. Which is only fitting and proper. The "Skyline GT-R" moniker should definitely be buried with the last Godzilla.
 
I wonder why the NSX-R prototype version has a carbon fibre hood while the NSX-R doesn't? I like NSX-R prototype better because of it's carbon fibre makes it look meaner i think....
 
extreme car
I wonder why the NSX-R prototype version has a carbon fibre hood while the NSX-R doesn't? I like NSX-R prototype better because of it's carbon fibre makes it look meaner i think....
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Same here. 👍
 
The NSX, with its 206kw, was prety much the start of the gentlemans agreement that japan made. It then got shat on by other bonehead car makers who think theyre above the law. *cough* skyline*cough*. Best motoring proves, although the NSX is power defficient it can easily blow off rivals with twice the power, due to its awesomely tuned chassis and grip levels.

There was an automotive show on in the US, the NSX had to use an old ferrari stand, so they shacked up and realised the stand was crooked. Although the Ferrari's; which were placed on the same stand, had no problem with them, the NSX rocked voilently due to the stands being uneven. This is sheer proof that the NSX is definantly high up (if not the best) in chassis design and body rigidy.

"It makes the most of the power it has got" referenced from electronic art's and road & track journalists when making the start of the NFS series. Back to GT4, the NSX is able to gain 200 points by racing stock against the likes of cadilac cien, VW W12, TVR cerbera etc.

As for the new NSX if there is going to be one, being as groundbreaking as it was 15 yrs ago?. i find that very hard to believe. When the NSX arrived, it proved there was no reason for supercars to be uncomfortable, unpracticle and extremely powerful to be fast. Only now have supercars finally caught up with the hype caused by the NSX's arrival 15 years ago. This is definantly whats dating the superb supercar, although its design, which is pretty much flawless, is being called age'd this is only because the pack it catching up and its not standing out as it used to. Too bad Enthusiasts, wanting nothing but good figures to boost thiers egos, are overlooking the admitedy aged supercar.

I myself, am very upset at the loss of a design which i believe will never surpass the NSX as well as it did to its rivals so many years ago.

With many tears, and white flags a-blazing

~Sp33~ (bidding the NSX goodbye, and hoping been-counters in Honda and Acura get sharp object rammed into their eye sockets)

EDIT: I hope that the next generation NSX, if there is going to be one, doesnt sport a V8+, because then we get petrol heads and there ego's, something the NSX has luckily avoided so far.
 
It's dying because they're not selling enough to justify spending on emission and safety changes to keep the car current. At under 500 cars a year for a car "only" costing 90k, it's hard to justify Honda putting more money into the aging platform.

Great car... better than most, and definitely competitive on-track with cars in and above its price range. Shame about the power thing. :(
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Well, the NSX was like a guinea pig for Honda/Acura. It was built to test out some technology. Next guinea pig is probably the S2000.
 
JTSnooks
But I wouldn't pay $90k for a 15-year old design that "holds it's own" Why not just get a year-old ferrari?
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To be fair ferraris are a bloody common sight here in england, in the village i live in in kent a chap who lives up the road has 4 different ferraris, on my travels to work which is all of 10 mins i see at least 3 ferraris a day. Honda NSX on the other hand err dont see many of those. i think its about exclusivity to some extent to and as for the performance difference, any fool can make a car go fast in a straight line but a good driver could probably keep up with or beat anything for around the same money! Also servicing bills may come into it too. i dont know the figures but id guess a honda nsx service bills to be alot cheaper than a ferrari. :)
 
Benjii
To be fair ferraris are a bloody common sight here in england, in the village i live in in kent a chap who lives up the road has 4 different ferraris, on my travels to work which is all of 10 mins i see at least 3 ferraris a day. Honda NSX on the other hand err dont see many of those. i think its about exclusivity to some extent to and as for the performance difference, any fool can make a car go fast in a straight line but a good driver could probably keep up with or beat anything for around the same money! Also servicing bills may come into it too. i dont know the figures but id guess a honda nsx service bills to be alot cheaper than a ferrari. :)
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This is definantly one of the reasons i like NSX's. You almost get a feeling of ownership the make instead of being part of the make. The handling with its mega accurate steering forms a close relationship between car and driver...*sigh*

if only it could cook and clean
 
I know that Honda and Acura are the same people, I just didn't realize that in other markets they were branded as Hondas. I also didn't realizie that Acuras were primarily for the American Market and sold as Hondas everywhere else. Thanks for the info, I was just confused.
 
Maybe Honda should have dropped a V8 in the NSX in its introduction. But the whole Gentlemen's Agreement thing kept the NSX back, imo.

Thanks to dumb agreement (imo), the NSX was kept back from letting out its full potential.
 
extreme car
I wonder why the NSX-R prototype version has a carbon fibre hood while the NSX-R doesn't? I like NSX-R prototype better because of it's carbon fibre makes it look meaner i think....
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Both have carbon fiber hoods. The production version is painted though. I also like better the prototype´s unpainted carbon fiber. 👍
 
Martinmaxx
Both have carbon fiber hoods. The production version is painted though. I also like better the prototype´s unpainted carbon fiber. 👍
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But what good is having CF if it doesn't show? ;)

Also I've always liked the idea of having a dark hood to reduce glare.
 
McLaren F1GTR
Maybe Honda should have dropped a V8 in the NSX in its introduction. But the whole Gentlemen's Agreement thing kept the NSX back, imo.

Thanks to dumb agreement (imo), the NSX was kept back from letting out its full potential.
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not really...
porshe has been proving for years that 6 is plenty of cylinders.
also, if you want a bit more balls. any honda/acura dealer (in the us at least) will put a factory authorised super charger kit on the nsx without voiding any warrenties.
 
McLaren F1GTR
I think there's only 50 or less being made. These are being bought by big car collectors. In 50 years, it may be worth near $425,000 though I doubt it.
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They're only building a total of 5 (five). And they're doing that next month, in August. And I reread where I got the info, and it's actually selling for $500,000. I was wrong about that. Rediculous.
 

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