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Nice man keep it up
Dont forget the STi vs Evo
Dont forget the STi vs Evo
George's Car Comparisons - Mercedes E55 AMG - Pictures And Styling Review Added!
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Sorry for the wait, in this comparison, the Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI Spec C will take on the Mitsubushi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR
Bhp - 276
Torque - 290.76 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1440 Kg
Price - 28,950
Drivetrain - 4WD
Year - 2004
400 Meters - 12.615 Seconds
1000 Meters - 23.684 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 170.64 Mph
Infineon Raceway Spors Car Course Lap Time - 1'48.654
The Impreza is the best Japanese high performance car at 400 Meters by quite a bit, so I knew it'd giv a good time, 12.615 Seconds, thats better than some supercars.
At 1000 Meters, the Impreza kept going strongly, and given a time or 23.654 Seconds.
That was'nt all, it kept going to give a Top Speed Test of over 170 Mph (170.64 Mph).
The Impreza was very good at Infineon aswell, it did'nt understeer very much, and good brakes helped me to stay (quite) stable for when I was braking at high speeds.
It also helped that the Impreza has great accelration, I could enter and exit a corner very quickly and neatly.
Although I could hear small tire schreeches even when turning the slightest bit, I was able to keep stable, the Impreza is a very stable car, probaly because of it's big spoiler.
After 4 laps, I recored the best which was 1'48.654.
Bhp - 276
Torque - 289.31 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1410 Kg
Price - 32,980
Drivetrain - 4WD
Year - 2003
400 Meters Time - 13.327 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 24.423 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 169.68 Mph (Redline Limited)
Infineon Raceway Spors Car Course Lap Time - 1'48.972
I did'nt expect the Evolution to be quicker than the Impreza at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, I was right, but the Evolution was'nt that much slower giving times of 13.327 Seconds (400 Meters) and 24.423 Seconds (1000 Meters).
Just as the Evolution could of got a faster speed than the Impeza at the Max Speed test, it maxed out at 169.68 Mph, 1 Mph slower than the Impreza.
Thing wer'nt going to get mucg better at Infineon either, the Evolution had much more unsteer than the Impreza, meaning I had to take the corners slower to not go onto the grass.
The brakes were slightly worse than the Imprezas, and it was'nt always easy to keep in control on the uphill corners when I had to brake.
The handling was good though, slightly better than the Imprezas, mainly because it's a 4WD, but also because it's lighter than the Subaru. After 4 Laps, my best lap was 1'48.972, just under half a second slower than the Impreza.
Speed - Impreza
Acceleration - Impreza
Handling - Evolution
Price - Impreza
Weight - Evolution
Subaru Impreza STI WRX
Bhp - 276
Torque - 290.76 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1440 Kg
Price - 28,950
Drivetrain - 4WD
Year - 2004
400 Meters - 12.615 Seconds
1000 Meters - 23.684 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 170.64 Mph
Infineon Raceway Spors Car Course Lap Time - 1'48.654
The Impreza is the best Japanese high performance car at 400 Meters by quite a bit, so I knew it'd giv a good time, 12.615 Seconds, thats better than some supercars.
At 1000 Meters, the Impreza kept going strongly, and given a time or 23.654 Seconds.
That was'nt all, it kept going to give a Top Speed Test of over 170 Mph (170.64 Mph).
The Impreza was very good at Infineon aswell, it did'nt understeer very much, and good brakes helped me to stay (quite) stable for when I was braking at high speeds.
It also helped that the Impreza has great accelration, I could enter and exit a corner very quickly and neatly.
Although I could hear small tire schreeches even when turning the slightest bit, I was able to keep stable, the Impreza is a very stable car, probaly because of it's big spoiler.
After 4 laps, I recored the best which was 1'48.654.
Mitsubushi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR
Bhp - 276
Torque - 289.31 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1410 Kg
Price - 32,980
Drivetrain - 4WD
Year - 2003
400 Meters Time - 13.327 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 24.423 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 169.68 Mph (Redline Limited)
Infineon Raceway Spors Car Course Lap Time - 1'48.972
I did'nt expect the Evolution to be quicker than the Impreza at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, I was right, but the Evolution was'nt that much slower giving times of 13.327 Seconds (400 Meters) and 24.423 Seconds (1000 Meters).
Just as the Evolution could of got a faster speed than the Impeza at the Max Speed test, it maxed out at 169.68 Mph, 1 Mph slower than the Impreza.
Thing wer'nt going to get mucg better at Infineon either, the Evolution had much more unsteer than the Impreza, meaning I had to take the corners slower to not go onto the grass.
The brakes were slightly worse than the Imprezas, and it was'nt always easy to keep in control on the uphill corners when I had to brake.
The handling was good though, slightly better than the Imprezas, mainly because it's a 4WD, but also because it's lighter than the Subaru. After 4 Laps, my best lap was 1'48.972, just under half a second slower than the Impreza.
When To Buy
Speed - Impreza
Acceleration - Impreza
Handling - Evolution
Price - Impreza
Weight - Evolution
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This comparison is more of a test, I will see how much slower a car will be when it has no oil change, 200kg Ballast and n1 tires. The cars I decided to use are Lancia Delta HF's.
All tests will be carried out at the Las Vagas 400 Meter Drag Strip.
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Oil Change - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie Without Oil Change - 16.260 Seconds @ 88 Mph
Time Diffence - 0.571 Seconds - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Oil Change Is Faster
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With No Ballast - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With 200 Kg Ballast - 16.233 Seconds @ 89 Mph
Time Diffrence - 0.534 - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With No Ballast Is Faster
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Sports Medium (S2) Tires - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Ecomany (N1) Tires - 15.660 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Time Diffrence - 0.029 Seconds - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Ecomany (N1) Tires Is Faster
1st. N1 Tires
2nd. S2 Tires
3rd. 200 Kg Ballast
4th. No Oil Change
All tests will be carried out at the Las Vagas 400 Meter Drag Strip.
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Oil Change - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie Without Oil Change - 16.260 Seconds @ 88 Mph
Time Diffence - 0.571 Seconds - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Oil Change Is Faster
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With No Ballast - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With 200 Kg Ballast - 16.233 Seconds @ 89 Mph
Time Diffrence - 0.534 - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With No Ballast Is Faster
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Sports Medium (S2) Tires - 15.689 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Ecomany (N1) Tires - 15.660 Seconds @ 91 Mph
Time Diffrence - 0.029 Seconds - Lancia Delta HF Intergralie With Ecomany (N1) Tires Is Faster
1st. N1 Tires
2nd. S2 Tires
3rd. 200 Kg Ballast
4th. No Oil Change
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Hello I dont have a request but actually a question. What tires do you do your test on? I noticed that when you tested the M3 you complained of understeer, which made me raise an eyebrow. But I did remeber that it is a problem if you run that car on sport tires. Ive found that if you run the car along with most others on the arguebly more realistic road tires the true nature of the car comes out, which in this case is a neutral car with a nic bit of oversteer when ever you want it!
Oh wait I do have a request! A 92 NSX-R versues a more recent model RX7.
Both of these cars handle very well but I want to know which one is the best and also in your book which one is more fun to drive!
Oh wait I do have a request! A 92 NSX-R versues a more recent model RX7.
Both of these cars handle very well but I want to know which one is the best and also in your book which one is more fun to drive!
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As requested the Honda NSX '93 will take on the Mazda Spirit Type R
Bhp - 276
Torque - 216.83 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
Weight - 1350 Kg
Price - 41,535
400 Meters Time - 14.108 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 25.358 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 174.83 Mph
Suzuka Circuit Lap Time - 2'29.581
Like today, Honda NSX dominate their rivals at Top Speed, I acheived a top speed of 174.83 Mph, and the Nsx has under 300 Bhp.
The NSX also stayed stable around the corner at speeds of over 165 Mph.
At Suzuka, it did'nt get worse, the NSX did'nt get worse, it cornered perfectly most of the time, and had very little understeer.
The straight line handling was good aswell, as mentioned above, it's a very stable car, and could handle the few fast corners very nicely.
The brakes are good, I could keep control most of the time, when I could'nt stay under control, it was'nt anything major that happend, no spinning into the sand trap.
In the end after 4 laps, I managed a time of 2'29.581
Bhp - 276
Torque - 231.45 Ft Lbs
Drivetrain - FR
Price - 39,980
Weight - 1270 Kg
400 Meter Time - 13.618 Seconds
1000 Meter Time - 25.542 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 172.43 Mph (Redline Limited)
Suzuka Circuit Lap Time - 2'24.101
The RX-7 just scraped through with the win at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, but lost to the NSX at Max Speed because of it's reline limiter.
At Suzuka the RX-7 was simply amazing, it taken corners extremelly quickly and smoothly, and it had no understeer at-all.
The brakes are very easy to keep control over, although they could be slightly stronger, I did'nt loose control though.
The handling is great, I did'nt understeer or go off the track at-all.
Although the rear sometimes slides out a bit, this is easy to keep under control and should'nt loose you any time.
After 4 laps, the RX-7's best was 2'24.101, destroying the NSX's time of 2'29.581 by over 5.5 seconds!
Honda NSX
Bhp - 276
Torque - 216.83 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
Weight - 1350 Kg
Price - 41,535
400 Meters Time - 14.108 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 25.358 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 174.83 Mph
Suzuka Circuit Lap Time - 2'29.581
Like today, Honda NSX dominate their rivals at Top Speed, I acheived a top speed of 174.83 Mph, and the Nsx has under 300 Bhp.
The NSX also stayed stable around the corner at speeds of over 165 Mph.
At Suzuka, it did'nt get worse, the NSX did'nt get worse, it cornered perfectly most of the time, and had very little understeer.
The straight line handling was good aswell, as mentioned above, it's a very stable car, and could handle the few fast corners very nicely.
The brakes are good, I could keep control most of the time, when I could'nt stay under control, it was'nt anything major that happend, no spinning into the sand trap.
In the end after 4 laps, I managed a time of 2'29.581
Mazda Spirit Type R
Bhp - 276
Torque - 231.45 Ft Lbs
Drivetrain - FR
Price - 39,980
Weight - 1270 Kg
400 Meter Time - 13.618 Seconds
1000 Meter Time - 25.542 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 172.43 Mph (Redline Limited)
Suzuka Circuit Lap Time - 2'24.101
The RX-7 just scraped through with the win at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, but lost to the NSX at Max Speed because of it's reline limiter.
At Suzuka the RX-7 was simply amazing, it taken corners extremelly quickly and smoothly, and it had no understeer at-all.
The brakes are very easy to keep control over, although they could be slightly stronger, I did'nt loose control though.
The handling is great, I did'nt understeer or go off the track at-all.
Although the rear sometimes slides out a bit, this is easy to keep under control and should'nt loose you any time.
After 4 laps, the RX-7's best was 2'24.101, destroying the NSX's time of 2'29.581 by over 5.5 seconds!
When To Buy
Mazda RX-7
Handling
Acceleration
Value For Money
Good Brakes
Honda NSX
Top Speed
MR Championship
Acceleration
Value For Money
Good Brakes
Honda NSX
Top Speed
MR Championship
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Great stuff George!
I'm actually interested in the comparison between the BMW V12 LMR Race Car and the Audi R8 Race Car. I know there's a difference of about 5% in bhp (both cars weigh the same), but I once saw them in an endurance race (fuji 1000?) doing a neck-to-neck up untill the finish. The BMW won that one by, I think, about 4 seconds.
The cars may be completely different in the hands of a non-AI driver, so that's why I'd like to see this test.
I'm actually interested in the comparison between the BMW V12 LMR Race Car and the Audi R8 Race Car. I know there's a difference of about 5% in bhp (both cars weigh the same), but I once saw them in an endurance race (fuji 1000?) doing a neck-to-neck up untill the finish. The BMW won that one by, I think, about 4 seconds.
The cars may be completely different in the hands of a non-AI driver, so that's why I'd like to see this test.
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Man in real life the NSX would own the RX-7 with ease. The Evo is also a better car in real life too. Keep it up with the comparos. I cant think of any requests right now.
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Heres a Suggestion
Garaiya/Berlinette RS/ZZ-S/VX220
On Normal tyres for these small Mid engined cars
Garaiya/Berlinette RS/ZZ-S/VX220
On Normal tyres for these small Mid engined cars
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No it wouldn't. Not a 3.0L model. If it was a lightest-weight, 3.2L model (NSX Type S Zero or NSX-R) than it would be close. Remember, the Mazda RX-7 was said to have been pushing 320-ish BHP towards the end of it's life, and it always weighed less than the NSX (even the NSX-R). But the NSX would never dominate. It gave up too much power to make up for it with the MR body.HONDATYPER
@ Mayuri Ootsuka: The Garaiya and ZZ-S will destroy the other two. They compete better with the Elise 190 and 111R. The Speedster and Berlinette would compete better with the MR2 gen. 1 and 3. And it's already been done before.
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I had seen it done on another board, and wanted to see how George would view these cars. I prefer tests when they are same stock tests, or same for all cars.
Altering a car and not another just makes the test seem wonky. (I know I suggested Road tyres, but Road tyres for every car.)
Nice thread though Toronado, interesting points scoring for different areas.
In a bone stock test the Garaiya came out best over the ZZ-S and the BerlinetteRS was a distant third. On paper the TK should be better, but as has been said the drivability of an engine is more than just peak power output. Hard for anything to compate with the Elise 111R though, save maybe the Sport 190 version! (Or another 111R!)
Altering a car and not another just makes the test seem wonky. (I know I suggested Road tyres, but Road tyres for every car.)
Nice thread though Toronado, interesting points scoring for different areas.
In a bone stock test the Garaiya came out best over the ZZ-S and the BerlinetteRS was a distant third. On paper the TK should be better, but as has been said the drivability of an engine is more than just peak power output. Hard for anything to compate with the Elise 111R though, save maybe the Sport 190 version! (Or another 111R!)
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well i would be fine to see the small MR cars but i would like to see the
Honda Integra Type R vs. the Dodge SRT-4 on S3's. I know the SRT-4 would own in the top speed and 400m but on the track the Integra Type R handles great
@HONDATYPER always nice to see another true Honda fan
Honda Integra Type R vs. the Dodge SRT-4 on S3's. I know the SRT-4 would own in the top speed and 400m but on the track the Integra Type R handles great
@HONDATYPER always nice to see another true Honda fan
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Here is the lightweight cars comparison, the Hommel Bernlette, ASL Gararya, Lotus Elise and Tommykaira ZZ-S will battle to see who is the best lightweight road car.
Bhp - 192
Weight - 690 Kg
Torque - 145.31 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters - 14.285 Seconds
1000 Meters - 25.611 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 163.36 Mph
Autumn Ring Lap Time - 1'31.239
192 Bhp + 690 Kg = A brilliant lightweight car called the Tommykaira ZZ-S, as soon as I got to Autumn Ring I knew it'd be fast.
The brakes could be slightly stronger and easier to keep control of, but other than that, it's a brilliant car, very fast out of corners, and great handling when turning aswell.
I decided I would drive 6 laps in each car, I did'nt go wide at all in the Tommykaira, it had no understeer an stayed in line perfectly.
Overall, the Tommykaira is one of the best cars with under 200 Bhp stock, especilly at Autumn Ring.
Bhp - 164
Weight - 950 Kg
Torque - 144.05 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - FR
400 Meters Time - 15.260 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 27.673 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 146.83 Mph
Autumn Ring Time - 1'33.106
The Hommel got worse as it went along, first, it was over a second slower than the Tommykaria at 400 Meters, then it was just over 2 seconds slower at the 1000 Meters, and to round that off, it was nearly 20 Mph slower at the max speed test.
This is because it has 28 Bhp less than the Tommykaria, it's 240 Kg heavier and has 1 Ft.Lb less torque.
In every technical statistic I recorded, the Tommykaira is better.
At Autumn Ring, the Hommel did feel fast, but turned out to be over 2 seconds slower, it has good handling, but lacks the speed and has a tad more understeer than the Tommykaira.
The brakes are good, and easy to keep under control, but it sometimes understeers when accelerating out of tight corners.
Bhp - 201
Weight - 800 Kg
Torque - 151.89 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters Time - 14.195 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 26.044 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 150.47 Mph
Autumn Ring Lap Time - 1'28.665
The ASL was just fast enough to beat the Tommykaira at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, but did'nt have enough speed to beat it at the Max Speed test, it was over 10 Mph slower than the Tommykaira.
At Autumn Ring though the ASL was brilliant, extremmely fast through the tight corners, stock short gearing made it very fast accelrating on the straights.
Despite having more understeer than the Tommykaira and Hommel, I did'nt go of the track, and the ASL's best lap time was nearly 3 seconds faster than the Tommykaira's! (1'28.665).
The Tommykaira had the weight advantage, but the ASL has torque and BHP advantage, also it has better brakes.
Bhp - 189
Weight - 860 Kg
Torque - 133.51 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters Time - 14.199 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 25.705 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 159.41 Mph
Autumn Ring Time - 1'27.575
The Lotus was just 0.004 seconds from taking victory for the 400 Meters, then, lost to the ASL and Tommykaira at the 1000 Meters.
But the Lotus then came 2nd at the Max Speed test, behind the Tommykaira.
And just as I thought the ASL had won the Autumn Ring Test, the Lotus came and beaten it by nearly a second.
The ASL is lighter, and has more Torque and Bhp, but the Lotus has much less understeer and better handling, it has much better turn in and exit to corners, and the brakes are easy to stay in control of, I did'nt have to brake very often and I could accelrate out of corners earlier with the Lotus, it's the all round better car.
Handling - Lotus
Speed - Tommykaira
Accelration Over 400 Meters - ASL
Accelration Over 1000 Meters - Tommykaira
Turn in to corners - Lotus
Corner exiting - Lotus
All round best - Lotus Elise 111R
Enjoy and comment
Tommykaira ZZ-S
Bhp - 192
Weight - 690 Kg
Torque - 145.31 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters - 14.285 Seconds
1000 Meters - 25.611 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 163.36 Mph
Autumn Ring Lap Time - 1'31.239
192 Bhp + 690 Kg = A brilliant lightweight car called the Tommykaira ZZ-S, as soon as I got to Autumn Ring I knew it'd be fast.
The brakes could be slightly stronger and easier to keep control of, but other than that, it's a brilliant car, very fast out of corners, and great handling when turning aswell.
I decided I would drive 6 laps in each car, I did'nt go wide at all in the Tommykaira, it had no understeer an stayed in line perfectly.
Overall, the Tommykaira is one of the best cars with under 200 Bhp stock, especilly at Autumn Ring.
Hommel Berlinette R/S Coupe
Bhp - 164
Weight - 950 Kg
Torque - 144.05 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - FR
400 Meters Time - 15.260 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 27.673 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 146.83 Mph
Autumn Ring Time - 1'33.106
The Hommel got worse as it went along, first, it was over a second slower than the Tommykaria at 400 Meters, then it was just over 2 seconds slower at the 1000 Meters, and to round that off, it was nearly 20 Mph slower at the max speed test.
This is because it has 28 Bhp less than the Tommykaria, it's 240 Kg heavier and has 1 Ft.Lb less torque.
In every technical statistic I recorded, the Tommykaira is better.
At Autumn Ring, the Hommel did feel fast, but turned out to be over 2 seconds slower, it has good handling, but lacks the speed and has a tad more understeer than the Tommykaira.
The brakes are good, and easy to keep under control, but it sometimes understeers when accelerating out of tight corners.
ASL Garaiya
Bhp - 201
Weight - 800 Kg
Torque - 151.89 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters Time - 14.195 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 26.044 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 150.47 Mph
Autumn Ring Lap Time - 1'28.665
The ASL was just fast enough to beat the Tommykaira at the 400 and 1000 Meter tests, but did'nt have enough speed to beat it at the Max Speed test, it was over 10 Mph slower than the Tommykaira.
At Autumn Ring though the ASL was brilliant, extremmely fast through the tight corners, stock short gearing made it very fast accelrating on the straights.
Despite having more understeer than the Tommykaira and Hommel, I did'nt go of the track, and the ASL's best lap time was nearly 3 seconds faster than the Tommykaira's! (1'28.665).
The Tommykaira had the weight advantage, but the ASL has torque and BHP advantage, also it has better brakes.
Lotus Elise 111R
Bhp - 189
Weight - 860 Kg
Torque - 133.51 Ft.Lbs
Drivetrain - MR
400 Meters Time - 14.199 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 25.705 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 159.41 Mph
Autumn Ring Time - 1'27.575
The Lotus was just 0.004 seconds from taking victory for the 400 Meters, then, lost to the ASL and Tommykaira at the 1000 Meters.
But the Lotus then came 2nd at the Max Speed test, behind the Tommykaira.
And just as I thought the ASL had won the Autumn Ring Test, the Lotus came and beaten it by nearly a second.
The ASL is lighter, and has more Torque and Bhp, but the Lotus has much less understeer and better handling, it has much better turn in and exit to corners, and the brakes are easy to stay in control of, I did'nt have to brake very often and I could accelrate out of corners earlier with the Lotus, it's the all round better car.
When to buy
Handling - Lotus
Speed - Tommykaira
Accelration Over 400 Meters - ASL
Accelration Over 1000 Meters - Tommykaira
Turn in to corners - Lotus
Corner exiting - Lotus
All round best - Lotus Elise 111R
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Ford Ka and one of the Mini's? Oh and maybe a Peugeot 206 too...George Morley
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Well I was actually trying to think of somthing to match the Ka but couldn't.
I quite like the SportKa/StreetKa styling in real life, but when I drove it GT4 it was rubbish haha. (Admittedly I had whacked a load of engine upgrades in it!)
Mini vs. 206 Should be good though! 👍
I quite like the SportKa/StreetKa styling in real life, but when I drove it GT4 it was rubbish haha. (Admittedly I had whacked a load of engine upgrades in it!)
Mini vs. 206 Should be good though! 👍
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HONDATYPER
I allready did that a while ago
EDIT: How about the NSX type R (the newest one) and the 300GT 96'?
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As requested, the Peugeot 206 RC will take on the Mini Cooper S.
Bhp - 174
Torque - 148.99 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1110 Kg
Drivetrain - FF
Price - 29,090
400 Meters Time - 16.012 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 28.843 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 146.85 Mph
Deep Forest Raceway Lap Time - 1'39.748
Quite slow of the line, the Peugeot managed a 400 Meters time closer to the 15 second mark.
As I drove around the long corner of Test Course, the Peugot was approaching the 150 Mph mark, which is what some of the more powerful hot hatches reach.
I managed 148 Mph, when it got to 145 Mph, the speed started going up much slower.
The Peugeot seemed to have a tad more understeer than the average FF hatchback, especilly on the tighter corners, if you accelrated out a bit to early, then it could mean grass next.
The brakes are very strong, but braking to hard can put you out of control, braking softly is a better choice.
After 3 laps of Deep Forest, my best time was 1'39.748.
Bhp - 160
Torque - 161.29 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1120 Kg
Drivetrain - FF
Price - 26,790
400 Meters - 16.097 Seconds
1000 Meters - 28.898 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 141.43 Mph
Deep Forest Raceway Lap Time - 1'38.977
At the 400 and 1000 meter tests, these two cars are very similar, both early 16 second 400 meter times, and both 28 second 1000 meter times, but still, the Peugeot just came through faster on both tests.
The Mini was also slower at the Max Speed, by 5 Mph, it was very slow going up after 140 Mph.
But at Deep Forest, the Mini felt better than the Peugeot, less understeer, better brakes, and easier to keep under control.
This resulted in the Mini beating the Peugeot at Deep Forest, with a time of 1'38.977, it was faster by .8 seconds.
Speed - Peugeot
Handling - Mini
Accelration - Peugeot
Weight - Peugeot
Braking - Mini
The Mini and Peugeot overall are two very, very similar cars, apart from the fact the Mini is 2,000 cheaper.
Peugeot 206 RC
Bhp - 174
Torque - 148.99 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1110 Kg
Drivetrain - FF
Price - 29,090
400 Meters Time - 16.012 Seconds
1000 Meters Time - 28.843 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 146.85 Mph
Deep Forest Raceway Lap Time - 1'39.748
Quite slow of the line, the Peugeot managed a 400 Meters time closer to the 15 second mark.
As I drove around the long corner of Test Course, the Peugot was approaching the 150 Mph mark, which is what some of the more powerful hot hatches reach.
I managed 148 Mph, when it got to 145 Mph, the speed started going up much slower.
The Peugeot seemed to have a tad more understeer than the average FF hatchback, especilly on the tighter corners, if you accelrated out a bit to early, then it could mean grass next.
The brakes are very strong, but braking to hard can put you out of control, braking softly is a better choice.
After 3 laps of Deep Forest, my best time was 1'39.748.
Mini Cooper S
Bhp - 160
Torque - 161.29 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 1120 Kg
Drivetrain - FF
Price - 26,790
400 Meters - 16.097 Seconds
1000 Meters - 28.898 Seconds
Max Speed Test - 141.43 Mph
Deep Forest Raceway Lap Time - 1'38.977
At the 400 and 1000 meter tests, these two cars are very similar, both early 16 second 400 meter times, and both 28 second 1000 meter times, but still, the Peugeot just came through faster on both tests.
The Mini was also slower at the Max Speed, by 5 Mph, it was very slow going up after 140 Mph.
But at Deep Forest, the Mini felt better than the Peugeot, less understeer, better brakes, and easier to keep under control.
This resulted in the Mini beating the Peugeot at Deep Forest, with a time of 1'38.977, it was faster by .8 seconds.
When To Buy
Speed - Peugeot
Handling - Mini
Accelration - Peugeot
Weight - Peugeot
Braking - Mini
The Mini and Peugeot overall are two very, very similar cars, apart from the fact the Mini is 2,000 cheaper.
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Copen vs. Cappucino?
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As requested, the Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) will take on the Daihatsu Copen Top in this small cars battle.
Bhp - 63
Torque - 56.71 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 700 Kg
Price - 5,102
Drivetrain - FR
Motorland Lap Time - 56.209 Seconds
The Suzuki felt extremely slow in gear 1, slower than I expected, but when it was in gear 2 and over, it felt like the average 60 Bhp car.
I drove 4 laps of Motorland in each car, and despite the Suzuki being so slow, I went onto the grass twice at one paticular corner.
The brakes are average, easy to keep control under, but could be stronger.
Handling is good, no understeer, I could keep the car in-line quite easily most of the time.
After 4 laps, I recored my best lap of 56.209 seconds.
Bhp - 63
Torque - 81 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 830 Kg
Drive - 14,980
Drivetrain - FR
Motorland Lap Time - 55.362 Seconds
The first thing I noticed about the Copen is that it's faster in gear 1 than the Suzuki, but then I noticed that the Copen looses speed very easily on corners. This is if you turn a tad to hard, it can loose quite a bit of speed.
The brakes are very good, much better than the Suzuki's. They are easy to stay under control of and have much more power.
The handling is slightly worse, the Copen has a slight bit of understeer now and then, nothing to be afraid of though. I was able to keep the car in line most of the time.
After the 4 laps, my best lap was 55.632 seconds, 0.6 seconds faster than the Suzuki.
These are two similar cars, but are better than each other in diffrent ways, while the Copen has better accelration and brakes, the Suzuki has better handling.
The Copen is also 3 times more expensive than the Suzuki, I'd rarther spend 5,000 on the Suzuki.
So, I reccomend the Suzuki, only because of price, if they cost the same, I'd probably say the Copen.
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Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R)
Bhp - 63
Torque - 56.71 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 700 Kg
Price - 5,102
Drivetrain - FR
Motorland Lap Time - 56.209 Seconds
The Suzuki felt extremely slow in gear 1, slower than I expected, but when it was in gear 2 and over, it felt like the average 60 Bhp car.
I drove 4 laps of Motorland in each car, and despite the Suzuki being so slow, I went onto the grass twice at one paticular corner.
The brakes are average, easy to keep control under, but could be stronger.
Handling is good, no understeer, I could keep the car in-line quite easily most of the time.
After 4 laps, I recored my best lap of 56.209 seconds.
Daihatsu Copen Active Top
Bhp - 63
Torque - 81 Ft.Lbs
Weight - 830 Kg
Drive - 14,980
Drivetrain - FR
Motorland Lap Time - 55.362 Seconds
The first thing I noticed about the Copen is that it's faster in gear 1 than the Suzuki, but then I noticed that the Copen looses speed very easily on corners. This is if you turn a tad to hard, it can loose quite a bit of speed.
The brakes are very good, much better than the Suzuki's. They are easy to stay under control of and have much more power.
The handling is slightly worse, the Copen has a slight bit of understeer now and then, nothing to be afraid of though. I was able to keep the car in line most of the time.
After the 4 laps, my best lap was 55.632 seconds, 0.6 seconds faster than the Suzuki.
Conclusion
These are two similar cars, but are better than each other in diffrent ways, while the Copen has better accelration and brakes, the Suzuki has better handling.
The Copen is also 3 times more expensive than the Suzuki, I'd rarther spend 5,000 on the Suzuki.
So, I reccomend the Suzuki, only because of price, if they cost the same, I'd probably say the Copen.
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