PS3 Naughty Dog Game:
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
At least tentatively.
Hehe, about time it was named.
Have they released anything new about it?
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Hehe, about time it was named.
Have they released anything new about it?
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The Creator of God of War has some opinions about Uncharted: Drake's Fortune in this Interview, I am downloading right now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133136
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133136
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So guess what. I got a PS3 today! and R:FOM
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How does one go from the awesome that was Gex to the crap that was Crash 2? Its incomprehensible.
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Ah, I miss Crash and all those Pizza Hut commercials. Watching a guy in the giant Crash suit yelling at people with a megaphone was pure classic.
Sony really needs to develop a Mario-like icon and stick with it.
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I think Sony sticking to a mascot could be bad for them, seeing as how they have so many different franchises working for them, it just wouldn't work out. I think "mascots" define the console as a toy, IMO. You look at the box of the PS3, and it look professional, it has that "something" about it. You look at the box of the Wii, and it looks more like a Toy, you think mario, you don't think of anything serious. I think Sony wants to avoid being tied into a similar mentality.
Microsoft's mascot is Master Chief. Does that make the Xbox seem like a toy?
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Mascots of some form usually tend to be used as marketing and create brand recognition. Without a mascot the Playstations have developed brand recognition through their controller design, because even the logo changes from system to system to system. But if you look at advertising they all have a spokesperson, which is basically a mascot, that viewers can see and immediately associate with the product.
I mean, if they chose to make Kratos a "mascot" it would definitely not come off as a toy. It would set a precedent that it is a mature system. If they were worried about the toy image I am sure they would drop the Playstation name and go with something new, the way Nintendo does.
Really, put a Wii and a PS3 box side by side. Aside from one being white and one being black the difference isn't that big. I think the Wii uses a more bubbly cartoonish font just to say it is family friendly, which is their marketing goal. If they took the exact same system, made it black, and used a sharper edged font it wouldn't seem so "toyish," especially if they packaged it with a game that focused on shooting guns instead of playing friendly sports.
Then taking Mario, you might not think of anything serious, but ask any non-gamer what Lara Croft, Kratos, Master Chief, or even Gran Turismo make them think of. IF they know what you are even talking about (they are likely to say Angelina Jolie for Lara Croft) they will still not think it is anything serious. Now, assume they don't know what you are talking about, as many won't, and then ask them about Mario and Luigi. They will immediately recognize them and tell you something about them being on Nintendo. Heck, my wife never touched my PS2, XBox, or Wii without my prodding. Well, she occasionally played Wii Sports Bowling. I downloaded Super Mario Brothers for the Virtual Console and now if I don't get to the TV first I won't get it all night. Last night she went through all the Mario games I have on the VC because she loves Mario. She also loves Sonic. She saw that on the Wii Shop and wanted me to get that too. What is it about these two that makes my wife, a non-gamer, jump on and want to play? Recognition. What is the number one selling game on the Wii right now? Zelda. Why? Recognition. I know people that preordered the game before they had the Wii. They had no clue how it would play or if the story was any good, but they bought it because it was Zelda. - Note: I did not buy Zelda. I am one of two that I know of that didn't.
A mascot may come off as cartoonish or toyish to a "hardcoe gamer" or someone who knows a lot about the industry and pays attention and looks forward to new systems, but the fact is that the casual gamer or non-gamer are more likely to go for what they recognize.
And when I think of the Wii I think of pulled muscles and weight loss, but I subscribe to the belief that full immersion is the only way to play.
I wish I could remember where that video game wars video was posted. I think it was the Funny Video Thread but I don't have the time to sort thorugh it at the moment.
It was awesome when Master Chief shows up and says, "It's just me," because XBox didn't have any other icons.
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I'll simply agree to disagree. I've followed Sony's marketing strategy pretty closely over the last decate, as well as written a few papers about it, and we'll just maintain our respective points of view in order to avoid additional escalated debate
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I rarely escalate, but okay.I'll simply agree to disagree. I've followed Sony's marketing strategy pretty closely over the last decate, as well as written a few papers about it, and we'll just maintain our respective points of view in order to avoid additional escalated debate
I will say I have questioned Sony this time around. Not so much on marketing, but the whole approach. I don't think they made any fatal mistakes, but just hurt themselves early in the game. But none of that has to do with mascots.
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I think they sacrificed some PS3 sales for their "greater good" which will ultimately be them finally having a leading market format (Blu-Ray).
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Sony has 3 series that could be defined as such already.
Sony couldn't have a real mascot, because they don't have many 1st party games. Most of the games are 2nd party.
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I agree... Sony's image is one of premium electronics which are ment to be grown up and sophisticated..... as SCE said themselves the PS3 is not a games console... its an hi end entertainment system. Sony would be mad to adopt a mascot, the Playstation Logo is good enough..... actually if anything, the square, circle, triangle and cross are kind of iconic and they are what we associate with the brand. It makes Sony more subtle... like a taylor made suit!
To be honest MS has not done the best at making there console look grown up, maybe that is there intention because that is the major target market. Adopting a white and bright green colour scheme and using slogans like Jump In! really doesnt do it for me to be honest. Its not that its bad, its just different to PS..... As for master chief I think MS using him so much is turning him into a comical character, he's ment to be a hard as nails guy saving the human race now I can see him promoting almost anything! Like toilet paper!
Oh and just about the region free thing (of which I am very conserned) All the ebay people selling US and Japanese PS3's to the UK are saying "oh its region free, will work with all the UK games that will be released bla bla bla".... there just saying that arnt they? they clearly dont really know or its all car salesman stuff to get bids rite? Cos there is no definate answer....like a 100% Guarentee.
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Even if some PAL games don't play on imported NTSC PS3s you can easily get games imported from the US or Canada or wherever. Takes a little longer because of postage but some games may be released in the US or Japan before the UK so you could actually get it early. But hopefully most, if not all games will be region free.
Actually I'm not sure there is any difference between PAL and NTSC as far as the software goes. HD is pretty much the same the world over. Release schedules may vary region to region and of course some publishers may not want their games to be played in certain regions. I hope that doesn't happen.
Actually I'm not sure there is any difference between PAL and NTSC as far as the software goes. HD is pretty much the same the world over. Release schedules may vary region to region and of course some publishers may not want their games to be played in certain regions. I hope that doesn't happen.
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Checkout today's w00t... from posts in this items discussion area it appears several PS3 owners are buying it to use with their PS3's.
This made me wonder about the advanatges of these types of products, and what other choices are out there so I started a new thread on the topic for those specifically interested in it:
This made me wonder about the advanatges of these types of products, and what other choices are out there so I started a new thread on the topic for those specifically interested in it:
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And I really hope this is how it works out for them. But I hope that their goal was to have this leading market format eventually benefit their video gaming division, as that is nearly 80% of their profits.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sony a lot. I think their products are high quality and even bought a Vaio desktop because of the quality I saw in their Playstations. But I wonder if they haven't forgotten their core when they do things like this:
I understand what the PS3 is and almost everyone on this board does, but the general public doesn't and I have heard too many gamers (whether it represents the majority I can't say) who say they won't pay $600 just to play games. Too many people don't read interviews. And then the few they do see are the ones in the mainstream press where Sony execs come off sounding smug and blind to the market. A lot of people don't get it and if a Sony exclusive killer app isn't their cup of tea then they have no reason to buy the system.I agree... Sony's image is one of premium electronics which are ment to be grown up and sophisticated..... as SCE said themselves the PS3 is not a games console... its an hi end entertainment system. Sony would be mad to adopt a mascot, the Playstation Logo is good enough..... actually if anything, the square, circle, triangle and cross are kind of iconic and they are what we associate with the brand. It makes Sony more subtle... like a taylor made suit!
In a situation like mine where I have no HDTV and my PC does everything else I need the PS3 would just be an overpriced gaming system. If I bought the PS3 now it wouldn't be any more useful to me than a 360. Fortunately for me there aren't any games that have me dying to buy one and so I am not in the middle of frugile saving mode. The only "next gen" system I have in the Wii, and that is because it just offers a different experience all around and was immediately affordable as a Christmas gift, not to mention giving me a whole new set of drinking games (but that's for another time).
The reason why I think a mascot might be an idea is that despite the generic rehashed play of Mario and Zelda games people lined up for that. Right now many people look at the PS3 and want to know what difference it offers from a 360 that doesn't require $1000+ television to enjoy. The average gamer, who doesn't want a home electronics device but just a gaming console, feels like Sony told them to accept it or take a hike.
Now, Sony isn't completely to blame for this because the media has not helped them along the way at all. The media will give interviews just to use quotes to make Sony execs sound like smug a-holes.
And to be honest I think Sony is on the right track here. This is a great system that should be admired and has a ton of potential. In fact, when I was in college I did a project on an all-in-one system that incorporated your cable/satellite system, phone, multimedia, gaming, and everything, only my idea was based around a personal computer design and I hadn't even considered the gaming consoles would go in that direction. I like this direction and it is where I want to see things go, but the jump was huge. I think maybe offering a dumbed down pure gaming console that was in the same price range as the 360 would have been an idea. I don't think the 20gb version is enough because it just seems like a 60gb with slightly less capability, not a pure gaming console. I didn't start thinking about thsi until I began hearing comparisons to Beta. While those are all incorrect it doesn't stop people from having that idea.
I think in the end I just believe that Sony took a massive leap in the right direction but only told the gaming audience about it, leaving outsiders to look in laughing at the gall of them charging that much for what is at first glance just a toy. I know movie buffs who are just looking to buy a $1000 Blue Ray or HD DVD player, not even realizing they could save money and get more functionality for $600. They stepped beyond just gaming, but didn't let the rest of the world know.
Well, the XBox is still basically just a gaming system. They want their image to be that they are a toy for grown ups and not teh family-friendly version that the Wii is. They've even been trying to knock the PS3 out by saying that you could get a Wii and 360 to have two different gaming experiences, but you don't need the PS3 on top of it.To be honest MS has not done the best at making there console look grown up, maybe that is there intention because that is the major target market. Adopting a white and bright green colour scheme and using slogans like Jump In! really doesnt do it for me to be honest. Its not that its bad, its just different to PS..... As for master chief I think MS using him so much is turning him into a comical character, he's ment to be a hard as nails guy saving the human race now I can see him promoting almost anything! Like toilet paper!
Which comes back to Sony not getting their message out properly. everyone knows what a XBox 360 is meant for and everyone knows what a Wii is meant for. Sure, some parents are too stupid to read a ratings logo, but they know they are buying a gaming system and most know which one is for family fun and which is for playing after the kids are asleep. Then they think the PS3 is just an overpriced version of a 360, not a versatile home entertainment system.
Right, but that is what I was saying they should do.
All this said, and all the mascot stuff debated, I thought more on this as I was cleaning snow off the driveway last night and I realized that if a mascot made any difference then Sega would still have a system. Many blamed Segas fall partly on there being no room for three systems, but we are now on generation 2 of that and even with Sony being behind at the moment (I do believe they will catch up as the market does) they are selling enough to stay afloat (despite a 5% stock loss due to the PS3). So, I guess it is quality, which then creates quantity, that wins the day. I just like having something that connects me to the system and company because 700+ cars just aren't personable. Although I think that good quality with a mascot would draw people in the way Mario and Zelda do. But that may just be me.
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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157021
I'm speechless...seriously.
I never expected this game to look this good, ever.
I'm speechless...seriously.
I never expected this game to look this good, ever.
Holy hell, this looks good.
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The game has so much LIFE to it. It LOOKS like a humid, hot, nasty jungle. The leaves and plants are far better than anything I've seen on either console to date, and what's more amazing is that I CANNOT tell a difference between these shots and the shots released from teh trailer...so...was the trailer real time afterall?
If so...wow...just wow...I don't know what to think right now.
Vito - They're thinking that they need to make money on a franchise doomed to fail, since it has zero creativity behind it anymore. They're going to spend a ton of money on licensed music and voice talent, and it'll pretty much be the last GTA with a new theme and new city, maybe some new "sandbox" features.
If so...wow...just wow...I don't know what to think right now.
Vito - They're thinking that they need to make money on a franchise doomed to fail, since it has zero creativity behind it anymore. They're going to spend a ton of money on licensed music and voice talent, and it'll pretty much be the last GTA with a new theme and new city, maybe some new "sandbox" features.
*EDIT* And btw, I know this is off-topic and all, but I didn't know GTA 4 was coming out for XBOX 360!, what the hell where Rockstar games thinking?!?
You didn't? Get back under your cave!
But really, why are you getting in such an uproar? GTA games have always been on the Xbox, although they were timed exclusives on the PS2 (meaning the Xbox version was usually released a year after the PS2 version).
The original trailer was CG? I was under the impression that it was actually real time. The graphics weren't all that impressive (except maybe the animations) in it, so I'm thinking what we're seeing here is the fruit of a year of development time.
But nonetheless, it looks great.
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Foolkiller, you make some very good observations, many of which I agree with. One question though:
Sony is a massive multinational conglomerate and is a sales leader in several industries. Like; film, broadcasting, music, and consumer electronics. Some of which are even larger than the video game industry.
While very profitable, Sony's video game division accounts for only a small fraction of their sales. For instance, last fiscal year, Sony reported $64 billion in sales... that would be about three times as much as the entire video game industry reported during that same period.
Sony could theoretically pull out of the video game industry and it would remain one of the largest media conglomerates and consumer electronic companies in the world... and would still be larger than Microsoft.
Where are you getting this information?
Sony is a massive multinational conglomerate and is a sales leader in several industries. Like; film, broadcasting, music, and consumer electronics. Some of which are even larger than the video game industry.
While very profitable, Sony's video game division accounts for only a small fraction of their sales. For instance, last fiscal year, Sony reported $64 billion in sales... that would be about three times as much as the entire video game industry reported during that same period.
Sony could theoretically pull out of the video game industry and it would remain one of the largest media conglomerates and consumer electronic companies in the world... and would still be larger than Microsoft.
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You didn't? Get back under your cave!
But really, why are you getting in such an uproar? GTA games have always been on the Xbox, although they were timed exclusives on the PS2 (meaning the Xbox version was usually released a year after the PS2 version).
The original trailer was CG? I was under the impression that it was actually real time. The graphics weren't all that impressive (except maybe the animations) in it, so I'm thinking what we're seeing here is the fruit of a year of development time.
But nonetheless, it looks great.
Uhhh..maybe you don't remember the trailer too well?
Looks pretty much the same both time around, and both have amazing characters, textures, and PLANTS. OMG THE PLANTS! hahaha, seirously they look wonderful. The lighting / fog (humid look?) is perfect...looks pretty dang impressive to me, not far behind Crysis honestly, give it maybe another year or two and I think the PS3 (and possibly 360) will be pumping out Crysis like games.
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