PS3 General Discussion

well not to my knowlegde, but i can only assume that if it was password protected, it still wouldnt work even in my dads office. But it does work down there, just not in my room. It recieves a 100% signal, it just stalls and doesnt do anything. maybe my room is just too far away? I really dont know. but at least i can play R:FOM online in my dads office.
 
The reason I think it was the range problem because he said the PS3 wireless works fine in his dad's office, near the router, but not in his room.

But yes, provide all the information necessary will make it easier for GTP members to help you Dead_Poetic.
 
The reason I think it was the range problem because he said the PS3 wireless works fine in his dad's office, near the router, but not in his room.

well not to my knowlegde, but i can only assume that if it was password protected, it still wouldnt work even in my dads office. But it does work down there, just not in my room. It recieves a 100% signal, it just stalls and doesnt do anything. maybe my room is just too far away? I really dont know. but at least i can play R:FOM online in my dads office.

Assuming this router is in his dad's office, he probably has it hardwired and doesn't need to deal with encryption and stuff.
 
but i can only assume that if it was password protected, it still wouldnt work even in my dads office. But it does work down there, just not in my room

Dead_peotic, did you mean the WIRELESS connection with the PS3 works in you dad's office?
 
Yeah, I think that's what he means.. that the wi-fi works when he's in close proximity to the router, but not if he's further away, even though he's showing 100% signal strength. Weird.

Me, I just use a hardwired connection.. no fuss, no muss. Didn't have to set up a damn thing, just plugged it in and off it went.

Yep, you heard that right... I got one today. Last 20GB in town (believe me, I looked and called everywhere).

First impressions:

Overall, I'm impressed. It's big, it's heavy, but seems very well-made, very sturdy. And shiny.

The quietness of the system actually led to me to believe it was broken at first. When I first powered it on (love the touch-buttons), it whirred up and then went dead silent. I thought it was having some sort of bootup problem. Turns out it was just that damn quiet. When I put the first disc in, I thought to myself "damn that slot-loader's noisy", when it's probably a good deal quieter than the disc tray of the Xbox360 that's sitting next to it. Probably no louder than the tray on my DVD player. It just seemed loud after hearing only the barest whisper coming from the console itself. Got everything all set up, got it online, made me an online account (my standard username, if you're interested <------). My new USB key works just fine (*whew*.. after all the problems I had on the PS2 trying to find a working USB drive, and the fact that not all drives were compatible, had me worrying). I was able to load some test/calibration images that I have, in order to get the color/tint/brightness/contrast tuned in. Damn good thing, too, because the default brightness of the console was WAAAYYY too bright. All my other inputs I had to turn the brightness up one or two notches to be correct.. on the PS3, I had to turn it down by about ten notches.

And, I watched my very first Blu-ray movie today. It's a "mid-grade" Blu-ray of the best damn Western ever, Unforgiven. At first, I was watching it, thinking, "eh, it looks okay.. nice detail and all, but is it really that much better?" I was thrown off a bit by the framing of the 2.35:1 letterboxing, which was larger than I'm used to seeing on my DVD, so I popped in the Unforgiven DVD that I own to compare. I think the "smaller" bars on the DVD are a result of the overscan coming from the 480p input. The framing of the shots within the image was also slightly different, but I'll account that to the fact that it's a new HD master. But man... as soon as I started watching the DVD, even after only a few minutes of watching the Blu-ray, I was all "OMFG MY EYES!!!" The DVD looked absolutely horrid by direct comparison. Probably wouldn't have been so bad if I'd put off the TV for a few hours, but man... hot-switching back and forth between the DVD and Blu-ray was beyond night-and-day.. it was like a whole new world, even though it's the same damn movie. I can't wait to watch the other two BDs I own tomorrow, which are apparently far better in terms of PQ than Unforgiven.

So far I've only come across one issue.. I won't call it a "problem", because it's easily correctable, and I think it's my TV and not the PS3.

Whenever it changes the output, for whatever, reason, my TV goes all wonky on the display. It's not HDCP, it's not the "flickering on/off" that some Westy owners have reported. It's like the TV doesn't know how to work the incoming signal, so it's all scrambled. I can fix it easily enough by switching to a different input, then back to DVI (I have HDMI>DVI because of some reports I've heard about the Westy's 1080p input over HDMI, but I also have a straight HDMI cable in reserve).

The reason I think it's the TV and not the PS3 is because it occasionally does the same thing with the PS2. Sometimes, when I pop in GT4 (it's only ever happened on GT4, oddly enough), the signal will be all scrambled like that, even with standard 480i input (and over component). To fix that, I just navigate to the Options menu and set the screen to 1080i (which, oddly enough, I can do from memory and what little I can make out of what's on-screen.. hehe). When the resolution changes to "test" 1080i, the display snaps back to normal, and then it's fine afterwards. Luckily, everything I've displayed straight through the XMB is fine (images, video, etc), no hitches whatsoever.

I didn't experience the "pausing" glitch that some people have reported on Blu-ray movies. But, as I had read on AVS, I disabled the network prior to watching the film. Gave me no trouble whatsoever. Except I forgot to turn it back on again afterwards, so it had a little trouble connecting to the Store for a moment.. hehe.

The Blu-ray remote works like a charm. I didn't have the controller on for most of the time I was using the system today. I turned it off before I watched the movie, and had no difficulties navigating around the XMB and the Store using the BD remote. And, of course, the movie controls are spot-on.

One other thing I noticed, and I haven't had time to fiddle with it yet, is that it doesn't seem to display PS2 games in widescreen. Even when they're set to widescreen. Granted, the only thing I tried was about ten seconds in Shadow of the Colossus, but the PS3 didn't seem to care when I set the output to Widescreen. And, because it's DVI, I can't use the TV's "stretch" feature to fill the screen. Is that something I'm screwed on, or is there some setting I need to fiddle with?

All in all, though... I like it. :)

I'm downloading GTHD as we speak... let that run overnight and play it sometime tomorrow. So look for my scores if you like. Probably somewhere near the bottom... I ain't half as fast as some of the folks around here, and it'll take some getting used to the idea that everyone can see just how frikkin' slow I am now.. lol.
 
Jedi2016 - The screen flickering when changing resolution is normal. My TV does that with everything including the PS3.

About not really noticing an improvement with your first BD, Unforgiven - I was like you. When I watched my first blu-ray movie I thought "That's clear and sharp but..." Then I played the Standard Definition extras on the disc and I was like you OMG! The difference was vast and worth the money

All in all I agree with what you've said about the PS3. It's quiet, it looks and feels expensive, and bluray playback is worth the money. FYI I'm typing this on PS3 lol. Good choice in going with PS3
 
Same here, god, I don't even feel like to go to blockbuster and rent those new release DVDs anymore.:dopey:

One thing I've noticed, when I was using component cable, my TV screen didn't flicker when go from XMB to motostorm demo. However, when I switched to HDMI>DVI cable, the screen flicker when I started Motorstorm demo even though there was no resolution change, the XMB was being displayed at 1280*720, the same with motorstorm supported resolution)
 
Congrats, Jedi. I know how you feel about the quietness of the system. I was also thrown off a bit.

Back on my internet issue, Jedi you hit the nail on the head. The issue that really confuses me is that when i try to connect my ps3 to our connection in my room, via wireless internet, it just stalls and doesnt do anything, even though the signal is 100%. But when i take it into my dads office, and set it up wireless it works fine.

But, i did find out that it isnt the ps3 because it does the same thing with my dads laptop. It also does it with my psp. Anyway, im assuming that its just the wireless service that sucks. But i think that my father is going to switch it over to cable sometime in the near future.

Also, Jedi, did you buy any games for your ps3?
 
Nope, no games yet. Waiting until something peaks my fancy. With games costing more this gen than last, my new-game purchases will be fewer and further between than previously.

I did, of course, download GTHD, though. :) And I'll probably nab a few more demos over the next few days.

As for your connection problem, it could be a different form of interference. Not enough to dilute the actual strength of the signal, but to interfere and corrupt the data that's being transferred, so that what shows up on either end, while still full "power", is garbled. Either that, or you're picking up your neighbor's wi-fi signal that's protected, and not actually reading from your dad's router at all.

Any number of things that could do it, I'm afraid. I'm not real keen on the specifics of wireless networking, though.
 
Congrats, Jedi. I know how you feel about the quietness of the system. I was also thrown off a bit.

Back on my internet issue, Jedi you hit the nail on the head. The issue that really confuses me is that when i try to connect my ps3 to our connection in my room, via wireless internet, it just stalls and doesnt do anything, even though the signal is 100%. But when i take it into my dads office, and set it up wireless it works fine.

But, i did find out that it isnt the ps3 because it does the same thing with my dads laptop. It also does it with my psp. Anyway, im assuming that its just the wireless service that sucks. But i think that my father is going to switch it over to cable sometime in the near future.

Also, Jedi, did you buy any games for your ps3?

Do you have any encryption on that wireless network?
Go to 192.168.1.1 (most likely address, it may end up being different) in your web browser and check out the wireless settings. You can turn the WEP encyption off or write down the code to type into the wireless devices. Preferably the latter. ;)
 
Ugh. If it were anything to do with any of the network settings, it wouldnt work in my dads office. Anyway, i dont know what it is. I also realized that my computer in my room, doesnt even run off of my dads connection. Its my neighbors. But my PS3 wont run off of my neighbors. I dont know.
 
Ugh. If it were anything to do with any of the network settings, it wouldnt work in my dads office. Anyway, i dont know what it is. I also realized that my computer in my room, doesnt even run off of my dads connection. Its my neighbors. But my PS3 wont run off of my neighbors. I dont know.

Sure it would. What if your dad's office is an unencrypted network? Do what I said in the previous post and let me know what you find out.
 
Grrrr.... just read that the first 500,000 owners of a PS3 in Europe that sign-up online will get a free copy of "Casino Royale" on Blu-ray... and we yanks got stuck with a poor dumbed down version of "Talledega Nights". 👎


BTW: For those enjoying Blu-ray movies on their PS3's... you must check out "Chicago" and "Open Season"... spectacular 1080p transfers!!! 👍👍
 
I watched about ten minutes of Talledega Nights and I couldn't stand it anymore. It has been collecting dust since then.

Ice Age 2 also looks spectacular.
 
God of War II will run in 720p on the PS3.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/12/god-of-war-ii-in-720p-on-ps3/

How do you like them apples?

IGN strikes again!
Editor's Correction: After posting the review, we've gotten word from an SCEA representative that the game will support 480p on the PlayStation 3 but not 720p. Our error was due to crossed information and we're sorry for the confusion. We will report back once we have the final copy in our hands.


http://ps2.ign.com/articles/763/763624p3.html

My guess? IGN got "cross information" because this game will be one of the first to support 720p via upscaling, possibly with the march update, either that, or it's planned for the future. That's "my guess".
 
Grrrr.... just read that the first 500,000 owners of a PS3 in Europe that sign-up online will get a free copy of "Casino Royale" on Blu-ray... and we yanks got stuck with a poor dumbed down version of "Talledega Nights". 👎


BTW: For those enjoying Blu-ray movies on their PS3's... you must check out "Chicago" and "Open Season"... spectacular 1080p transfers!!! 👍👍
Not a big Bond fan myself but I wouldn't say no to it free.
Looking at some reviews for Blu-ray movies that have good picture quality. Ice Age: Meltdown, Kingdom of Heaven: Directors Cut and Superman Returns have very good PQ and I've not watched them yet. Certainly rent a few, but only buy the ones I really want to keep. One of them would be Kurosawa's Ran. But unfortunately I can only find it as a HD DVD release. If this keeps up (I want The Thing and The Blues Brothers - also only on HD DVD) I'm going to have to get the 360 HD DVD add on.:grumpy:
 
Grrrr.... just read that the first 500,000 owners of a PS3 in Europe that sign-up online will get a free copy of "Casino Royale" on Blu-ray... and we yanks got stuck with a poor dumbed down version of "Talledega Nights". 👎


BTW: For those enjoying Blu-ray movies on their PS3's... you must check out "Chicago" and "Open Season"... spectacular 1080p transfers!!! 👍👍
What if the packed in version of Casino Royale is dumbed down as well? I doubt they're going to put in a retail copy.
IGN strikes again!
Editor's Correction: After posting the review, we've gotten word from an SCEA representative that the game will support 480p on the PlayStation 3 but not 720p. Our error was due to crossed information and we're sorry for the confusion. We will report back once we have the final copy in our hands.


http://ps2.ign.com/articles/763/763624p3.html

My guess? IGN got "cross information" because this game will be one of the first to support 720p via upscaling, possibly with the march update, either that, or it's planned for the future. That's "my guess".

:ouch:
 
Wow, i'm suprised at God Of War 2's score. I weas thinking it couldnt live up to to first like soooo many games. As for the 720p mistake lets hope they can share this "cross information".

BR's I own Underworld Evo, Sword Fish and Fith Elelment. Cant wait for the Matrix Trilogy.

Getting the remote next friday i guess

Last Mr. Harrison officially anounced background downloading in FW 1.6 plus many otehr updates that he cant speak about.
 
What if the packed in version of Casino Royale is dumbed down as well? I doubt they're going to put in a retail copy.

Is the retail copy of Talledega Nights better quality then the free one? And is the PS3 free copy not a retail one? I'm pretty sure PQ wise they're exactly the same (ie poor). Of course there's been no review of Casino Royale on Blu-ray yet so it could be poor. But I doubt they'll screw up the PQ just because it's free whilst maintaining a better PQ for the retail version. They'll be exactly the same.
But if there was a difference between the free Talledega Nights and the retail then yes, it could be possible. But is there a difference?
 
Well, we'll just have to see once Casino Royale is released. If I get it free maybe I'll test the retail one to via a rental.
It would be an exceptionally cynical move on Sony's part to hamstring the free version just to either force you to buy the retail copy or to save money on giving it away in the first place. But maybe for some such cynicism from Sony is not hard to imagine.

Edit: Looks like the pressure has got to the head of sales at Sony UK - www.mcvuk.com
Maybe he's done his job and simply wanted to move on but this is strange timing. I do hope this doesn't lead to problems with PS3 shipments in the UK....:nervous:
 
One of them would be Kurosawa's Ran. But unfortunately I can only find it as a HD DVD release. If this keeps up (I want The Thing and The Blues Brothers - also only on HD DVD) I'm going to have to get the 360 HD DVD add on.:grumpy:
Ran is one of my favorite Kurosawa films, although Seven Samurai remains on of my all time favorite films. The good news is that Criterion who currently owns the distribution rights has not signed any exclusive support for HD DVD, but even if they waiver, their distribution rights for Ran are limited. Orion Pictures is the original rights owner, and they were bought out by MGM (for whom Sony has a 20% controlling interest in) and 20th Century Fox holds the world wide video distribution rights for most of MGM's films - thus exclusive to Blu-ray.

More importantly though, by all accounts HD DVD support is diminishing. Historically, even DIVX had much better support than HD DVD with exclusive support from Disney, 20th Century Fox, and Paramount Pictures... but that format didn't last very long, and in short order those once exclusive DIVX titles were re-released on DVD.


Is the retail copy of Talledega Nights better quality then the free one? And is the PS3 free copy not a retail one? I'm pretty sure PQ wise they're exactly the same (ie poor).
No (its just missing features). No, the retail one has special features. Yes, they are the same in regards to PQ, and while I certainly wouldn't call them poor by industry standards, they are excellent 1080p versions of the original... which did not have the best PQ to begin with. In other words, there are no signs of any mastering or transfer artifacts, and thus this is the best PQ one can hope for considering the quality of the original source.

Of course there's been no review of Casino Royale on Blu-ray yet so it could be poor. But I doubt they'll screw up the PQ just because it's free whilst maintaining a better PQ for the retail version. They'll be exactly the same.
Actually there have been preview copies making the rounds, and the early word is that it looks and sounds amazing! My bet is this will easily be the highest rated and best selling Blu-ray title so far.
 
Thanks.
Ran..can I wait for a Blu-ray release? If other Kurosawa films come out soon, such as Kagemusha on Blu-ray then I'll wait. But if another comes out on HD DVD then I'll get that instead. But really it depends on Seven Samurai. Criterion did an excellent 3 disc set of Seven Samurai last year (the film comes on two discs) and that would be ripe for a HD release (preferably Blu-ray).

As I have my PS3 on order I'm now considering what Blu-ray movies to get. I'm going to be picky and only get what I will keep. I'm waiting for some classics to appear like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Blade Runner.
 
Is there a list somewhere showing what keyboards and mice are compatible with the PS3?

I'm rather looking forward to this one, but I'm not sure whether it is coming to the UK or not. Might be a tad on the expensive side, too...

Great news about the free 500,000 Casio Royale Blu-Rays too! I'm certainly signing up for one of those, like I got a free Spiderman UMD with my PSP.
 
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