Wii General Discussion
- Thread starter DuckRacer
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- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
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- FoolKiller1979
So, here is my review for Tiger Woods 07. (7/10 overall) To save some time I am going to copy and paste the one I wrote at Gamefly. I don't normally post user reviews on Web sites like that but I saw too many people complaining because of lower graphical quality (On the Wii? NEVER!), or because they couldn't hit straight and it was too hard. It made wonder if they ever golfed in real life. The only reasonable complaint I heard is that power is determined by your backswing, which takes some of the realism out of it.
To give you an idea of how I golf in real life, my slice can actually make the ball leave a driving range. Think Caddyshack II. I also refuse to play stroke play because I don't want that score marked down. I'm all about some one ball though. Fortunately, my regualr golfing buddy is just as bad and he only likes to play one ball or match play as well. The only time we do stroke play is when others are with us and we can do pairs.
Now, for virtual golf, Tiger Woods style.
To add: I have gotten into the season mode pretty well since I wrote that and I have discovered the real key is sponsorships, so you can earn more money, so you can buy better quipment, so you can improve your game, so you can get more sponsorships, so you can earn more money.....
And as well as creating myself I have created Bob Barker and have plans for Happy Gilmore and Shooter McGavin. Really, EA should do some licensing to have them as unlockable characters just for spits and giggles.
Oh, and Pebble Beach is so gorram hard!
To give you an idea of how I golf in real life, my slice can actually make the ball leave a driving range. Think Caddyshack II. I also refuse to play stroke play because I don't want that score marked down. I'm all about some one ball though. Fortunately, my regualr golfing buddy is just as bad and he only likes to play one ball or match play as well. The only time we do stroke play is when others are with us and we can do pairs.
Now, for virtual golf, Tiger Woods style.
To add: I have gotten into the season mode pretty well since I wrote that and I have discovered the real key is sponsorships, so you can earn more money, so you can buy better quipment, so you can improve your game, so you can get more sponsorships, so you can earn more money.....
And as well as creating myself I have created Bob Barker and have plans for Happy Gilmore and Shooter McGavin. Really, EA should do some licensing to have them as unlockable characters just for spits and giggles.
Oh, and Pebble Beach is so gorram hard!
- 40,891
Yes, yes, YES, YES!
Oh yes! Now don't screw it up, SEGA (read, Sonic Team), or I can guarantee that every single person who owned a Saturn new will burn down your headquarters.
By that same token, I now must own a Wii.
Oh yes! Now don't screw it up, SEGA (read, Sonic Team), or I can guarantee that every single person who owned a Saturn new will burn down your headquarters.
By that same token, I now must own a Wii.
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- landseaair
you mean the 1000 Saturn fans? 
- 40,891
you mean the 1000 Saturn fans?
In America. I'm sure once Sega announced it, all 80 million or so Saturn owners in Japan (note, a little bit of an exaggeration) bought Wii's right then.
However, its a well known fact that everyone who bought a Dreamcast just bought a Gamecube when the Dreamcast died, and by extension, a Wii.
Either way, that is Wii's killer app, right now, assuming it comes out before Brawl does. I'm sure one could argue Zelda, but that was a Gamecube game. Ewww. And Secret Rings was only good in comparison to everything else released in the past 5 years (though it was still good).
However, its a well known fact that everyone who bought a Dreamcast just bought a Gamecube when the Dreamcast died, and by extension, a Wii.
Either way, that is Wii's killer app, right now, assuming it comes out before Brawl does. I'm sure one could argue Zelda, but that was a Gamecube game. Ewww. And Secret Rings was only good in comparison to everything else released in the past 5 years (though it was still good).
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
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- FoolKiller1979
I think Wolfe and land sea air have a point here. I never owned a Saturn and only recently met someone who once did. What was on the Saturn that would be worth $10, possibly more, to buy today? I'm not trying to trash the system, I just never owned it and paying $10 to blindly buy a game I know nothing about doesn't appeal to me.
You know, it's kind of funny because every now and then I see Gamecube games when I am out and about and my first reaction, because I have been away from Nintendo since the SNES, is to think that would be cool, if I had a Gamecube. Then, as I begin to walk off I stop and say, "Oh yeah!" Then I pick it up and then force some self control as I have yet to play completely through a number of games I have, and as one is a borrowed copy of Zelda and another is a Gamefly rental I feel I must finish those before I buy more.
But it takles me a second to remember that I do basically own a Gamecube now.
Well, Zelda makes a good argument as when I bought my Wii I was the only one, out of the small group that got one, without Zelda in hand. The parents buying it for their kids saw everyone holding Zelda, asked if it was supposed to be good, and then went back to pick it up. Now that I am playing it I realize it has some of teh best graphics for the Wii I have seen so far, which makes me wonder about the other games' lack of them.
Judging by Gamefly's short wait on Zelda I would say enough people didn't buy it to be able to say that it might not have been the factor behind selling the Wii. And until Mario Galaxy , or maybe Smash Brothers or Mario Party comes out I doubt we will see anything met the traditional definition of killer app.
You have to ask then, does killer app have to mean a game? I mean, app, or application, does not necessarily mean software, so one could argue the control system is the killer app. Perhaps it is the software emulation of games that previously have not been, and cannot currently be found anywhere else?
Personally, I think it's the price. Make it family friendly and cheaper than everyone else and you will sell it. I've even heard of a senior's Wii Bowling league where age has made regular bowling to hard on their bodies, but the Wii allows them to still enjoy the sport without having to heft the ball around with weakend and/or arthritic hands.
Really, it is quite possible that the Wii's killer app is the Wii. It appeals to more than the 18-25 males and that makes me wonder how many of the sales can be attributed to non-traditional gamers.
That's not to say that Nintendo isn't paying attention to the gaming community. Then number one complaint, after graphics (why does that even continue?), is the lack of storage space. It appears to be getting an answer as it seems that the USB slots won't go unused.
http://www.cubed3.com/news/7212/1/Official_Mass_Storage_USB_for_Wii
It looks like my external 160gb HDD won't be used just for backing up stuff recorded with my TV tuner card afterall.
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Just for reference, I was half joking in both of those posts. I am quite sure that the insane cult folllowing the original NiGHTS...Into Dreams and the successive Christmas NiGHTS have is more than enough to make people buy a Wii. As I said, I am going to buy a Wii for that game alone, and I can imagine quite a few others who don't own one yet to do the same.
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
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- FoolKiller1979
Well, at the risk of showing my age I shall exalt in finding out that the Commodore 64 (C64) will be having games on the VC.
http://www.vc-reviews.com/news/72/commodore-64-games-on-the-virtual-console.php
For those not old enough to have used, or even heard, of this it is not a 64 bit processor that competed against the N64. No, the 64 was in reference to the 64 kb of RAM (yes, you read that correctly). It was advertised as the thinking machine and the technology of the future. They even had William Shatner in the ads.
The quality wasn't all that great and it was surpassed by the NES, but it was better than the Atari, even though it used the exact same controllers.
Anyway, now that I know it will be coming my wishlist of games is:
Archon
Wizball
USAgent
M.U.L.E.
http://www.vc-reviews.com/news/72/commodore-64-games-on-the-virtual-console.php
For those not old enough to have used, or even heard, of this it is not a 64 bit processor that competed against the N64. No, the 64 was in reference to the 64 kb of RAM (yes, you read that correctly). It was advertised as the thinking machine and the technology of the future. They even had William Shatner in the ads.
The quality wasn't all that great and it was surpassed by the NES, but it was better than the Atari, even though it used the exact same controllers.
Anyway, now that I know it will be coming my wishlist of games is:
Archon
Wizball
USAgent
M.U.L.E.
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
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- FoolKiller1979
I still have mine somewhere, even though the floppy drive quit working ages ago. Of course, it sits next to my Atari/Colecovision.
As for people who haven't heard of it, check the link I posted. The comments at the bottom have people who claim to be 16 saying they have never heard of it.
The fact that you are talking about your dad and uncle using one suddenly makes me feel old. Even though my dad bought ours it was still for me and my brother. We had software for word processing and spreadsheets, but it quickly became a pure gaming machine.
I saw an Intellivision collection for Gamecube at Best Buy in front of the registers a couple of weeks ago. It was a struggle to not buy it, but I was already spending nearly $300 for my wife's birthday present (portable DVD player and accesories).
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
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- FoolKiller1979
I downloaded it this morning, but didn't have enough time to check it out before work. Does it work better and smoother? Good updates and whatnot?Duċk;2630934First post on GTP with the final version of the Wii Opera browser.
Is it sad that I got so excited about C64 games on the VC that I forgot to even mention the browser?
I'm 20, and I've not only heard of the C64, I remember one of my uncles had one. So did a friend of mine's dad.
I also have a C64 emulator with a handful of games, including OutRun.
I saw the pulsing light this morning, but had to go to work. Oh well.
Has anyone had any experience with system updates + dodgy internet connections? I don't want to brick my Wii by trying to update while my internet connection craps out. Would it recognize that the internet connection died and cancel the whole process?
I swear, my DSL has become about as reliable as a 40-year-old French car.
I also have a C64 emulator with a handful of games, including OutRun.
Damn you.Duċk;2630934First post on GTP with the final version of the Wii Opera browser.
I saw the pulsing light this morning, but had to go to work. Oh well.Has anyone had any experience with system updates + dodgy internet connections? I don't want to brick my Wii by trying to update while my internet connection craps out. Would it recognize that the internet connection died and cancel the whole process?
I swear, my DSL has become about as reliable as a 40-year-old French car.
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- FoolKiller1979
Sounds like it is time to switch, or try downloading at 3:00 AM when no one else is on the WAN to bog it down so it will get it finished faster. I started downloading mine at 4:30 (when I got up) and it finished everything before I was completely awake, and that was running back and forth to wash my face and get ready. I was squinting and rubbing my eyes to see the screen clearly. Just a VC download in the afternoon (after 4:00 PM) takes forever.I swear, my DSL has become about as reliable as a 40-year-old French car.
Hopefully Nintendo thought this through. I would imagine that it would be an update download first, then an install. I think it would slow things down to install as it downloads.
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So, I tested the new browser last night. None of the freezing issues I had before but it seems to move slower. Hiding the taskbar is nice, although I now have the habit of wanting to go down and hit the back button and forget and have to hit (1) to make it pop back up. I'll have to test the autohide setting. The zoom is better, but occasionally it loads a page and has a zoom level that makes no sense for the page layout and resembles nothing close to my previous zoom level. I still need to play around some more. The biggest feature is that passwords don't show on screen when you put them in, so feel free to check your email in front of anyone you want.
Still no multimedia player. Honestly, Nintendo needs to jump on that with the HDD thing. It would save me a ton of time if I didn't have to put things on DVD to watch them on my TV, and then not everyone has DVD editor software, or knows how to use it.
I'm guessing you're on Cable? With DSL you don't share the connection with others in your neighborhood.
No, the problem is that (according to the phone/internet company) there's a dodgy connection in the line somewhere in our house, or interference from something. The DSL modem will randomly become disconnected, and will refuse to reconnect because it can't "find" the DSL line, or can't get a stable signal from it. Sometimes the problem lasts for a few minutes, sometimes it lasts for a day.
Simultaneously, there's faint static-like interference on the phones in our house.
I hope that's how it is. It's a miracle that I'm even logged onto GTP right now, but I have to go to work pretty soon and will have to update my Wii later.
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
- GTP_FoolKiller
- FoolKiller1979
Well, the phone company is owned by the same people that run the cable company here so there is no DSL (they also run the electric). Plus, I have no land line phones.
I had a dial-up, when I lived with my parents still, that kept giving me that line, despite all other dial-up ISPs working just fine.
I just can't imagine Nintendo setting it up to where it would do anything more than corrupt your Internet Channel file. That may be why it installs the same way as a VC game. It doesn't seem to be interlaced to the Wii system at all.
So it didn't ask you to update your system? When I received the notice in the Wii Message Board, the button in the corner said "Update," which took me to the usual system update function.
I made it through the downloads today (both the system update and then the final version of the Internet channel), and found out that during a system update, if the Wii loses the internet connection it just aborts the whole thing, giving you an error message. Mystery solved.
- 24,553
- Frankfort, KY
- GTP_FoolKiller
- FoolKiller1979
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Sorry, it was 4:30 in the morning when I did it and I had just gotten out of bed. I just remember I kept clicking OK and then it told me to please wait, and then I was allowed to go to teh Wii Shop and download the new version.
See, Nintendo doesn't get rid of the old data until the new data is installed.
Now, for that media player and online gaming..... Not that I don't like my Wii, but I didn't by a wireless routor just to be able to surf the net and buy old games. Whatever the outcome, I will get my money's worth once I buy a PS3.
My internet is semi-permanently fixed now. 👍 Turns out there were a couple of broken wires where the phone line comes into the house from outside. I stripped and reconnected them myself, and everything appears to be back to normal.
Too bad I have no real reason to "enjoy" the new internet channel at the moment, what with my much-easier-to-use PC and all...
Too bad I have no real reason to "enjoy" the new internet channel at the moment, what with my much-easier-to-use PC and all...
- 38,957
- Application hell
- MP-Omnis
Woo! My mom is about to go out and pick up a Wii...I'm happy! I've already forgotten about my PS2.
EDIT: Lets give a big hand to Nintendo for NOT having supply.
Or we can give a big hand to Nintendo for not making Wii 500 bucks, despite all economic sense.
Think about it this way...the longer the Wii remains so desirable that supply is low, the better chance it has of not suffering the fate of the GameCube.
I think you misunderstood. What I'm saying is that the Wii hasn't shaken off its launchtitleitis yet, and currently has a game library that is about as lackluster and unappealing to me as the GameCube's was. Although it's slowly improving.Duċk;2646746Numbers don't lie.
The EB situation could be the result of a bunch of PS2 shovelware on the market, though. Everyone's probably playing Wii Sports and Paper Mario.
I mean, I'd be willing to buy one of the several quirky, colorful games available if they either cost $15 or had enough content and replayability to warrant the $50 price. I had enough of that rapeage when I bought Excite Truck at launch, fun as that game may be.
