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GT4's useless cars/tracks.
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you boobs change any settings? I can out blast the AI with the likes of a tuned out Vov wagon!
if the T was tunable, I'd be all over it. that's why I wish I had a Hybrid. I think a 3 speed and a 40 horser add-on would wipe the floor against hot rodded 2 potters
if I had the conversion program, I'd post my maxed out 49 bug blowing doors off!
if the T was tunable, I'd be all over it. that's why I wish I had a Hybrid. I think a 3 speed and a 40 horser add-on would wipe the floor against hot rodded 2 potters
if I had the conversion program, I'd post my maxed out 49 bug blowing doors off!
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Seriously!
Car-Less came up with the idea for the series, based on our Pick'n'Mix format (6 cars - you can choose any one for any race, but you can only pick each once). He had the Prius, the Honda Insight, the Mitsubishi i Concept, the Mazda Demio, the Citroen C3 and the Nissan March 12c - and the six races were whatever happened to be in the track randomiser.
Then someone went "What tyres? Economy?!"
I thought it sounded like a chuffin' hilarious idea, so we went with it.
Track 1 - New York Reverse. Turn 1 - the inevitable...
Car-Less came up with the idea for the series, based on our Pick'n'Mix format (6 cars - you can choose any one for any race, but you can only pick each once). He had the Prius, the Honda Insight, the Mitsubishi i Concept, the Mazda Demio, the Citroen C3 and the Nissan March 12c - and the six races were whatever happened to be in the track randomiser.
Then someone went "What tyres? Economy?!"
I thought it sounded like a chuffin' hilarious idea, so we went with it.
Track 1 - New York Reverse. Turn 1 - the inevitable...
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Gotta wait till GT5 untill they will curl up into tin foil balls in Turn 1Seriously!
Car-Less came up with the idea for the series, based on our Pick'n'Mix format (6 cars - you can choose any one for any race, but you can only pick each once). He had the Prius, the Honda Insight, the Mitsubishi i Concept, the Mazda Demio, the Citroen C3 and the Nissan March 12c - and the six races were whatever happened to be in the track randomiser.
Then someone went "What tyres? Economy?!"
I thought it sounded like a chuffin' hilarious idea, so we went with it.
Track 1 - New York Reverse. Turn 1 - the inevitable...
I wanna get to a GTP event, but nothing happens in Florida!
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You can, but it won't be much faster than stock form. It's almost like the Renault Clio 16V in GT2.So the Prius didn't get any better than it was in GT2?
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Well, it drinks more fuel when modded and isn't hardly any quicker. Well, with the stock CVT. It tops out and accelerates about the same. The power display is neat, and it's good fun to try to see how little you can burn around a given course. On some shorter courses, it's possible to run completely on electricity although I do not recommend that.
Mafs: You only got 16s in the Volvo? SERIOUSLY? I could've sworn I got 14s.
Famine: Which Demio? I'd figure that the newer Demio would be quicker than the Prius.
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The Escudo isn't useless to the 300mph guys or the 400m/1000m guys.But it's got a race to go in, it is good for eliminating the competition for 1pt. in Like The Wind.
Now, my list of useless cars:
*VOLVO 244 Wagon. That piece of crap should be pushed off the PD map ASAP. 210Kw fully worked and I couldn't get better than mid 16's, getting to 200km/h was a pain and overall was a bad car.
*Toyota Prius. Since when did the GT environment suddenly get polluted that we needed hybrid's in there in the first place??Useless car allround to drive, save the 20k in the used car lot, DO NOT BUY ONE.
*The 580,376,147 versions of the Nissan Skyline R32-R34 GTR. Like the others, I would keep one version of each level of GTR (normal, VS, VSII, N1...that's it!!), but then I would've gone further by removing the redundant GT-R's (MNP's for example) and putting the R32 GTS4, R33 GTS-t and R34 GT-T in there in their place. Also keep one JGTC GTR in there, not 10. Same with the NSX's, the Supra's and the RX7's.
I LOVE the Volvo! And I'm sure a few other people on here do as well. There's something appealing about it that I can't explain.
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This is Gran Turismo, not Halfords.
I'm kidding, GT4 doesn't have those awful kits people put on those cars.
What GT really needs are Ford Cosworths. Sierra, Sapphire, Escort and the often forgotten Scorpio. I'd put high bets on the Cossie's whooping the butts of the usual Japanese saloon gang.
YES! COSWORTH! The next game now HAS to have a cosworth, i would love to see a MK2 escort as well, fantastic cars.....
"ceiling_fan-The Escudo, because the kind of race it was designed for isn't in the game. Also it has the worst turbo lag AND the worst turbo boost. "
yeah i got the escudo, drove it once, and when i realised there was no race for it, i sold it. I had one in GT2 and it was a beast, even lapped the highest spec cars on a 3 lap race around apricot hill!
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Technically it's a 240 as the door count was dropped during the last facelift but if the count was used it would be a 245, the 244 was a sedan.</nitpicking>
To the business though, the very same Volvo gets the trophy for the "most screwed up modelling" in the entire game with a very big margin. Don't even get me started with the 3D model flaws (at least a dozen, beginning with the general shape which is far too boxy and the chrome trim that belongs to every other trim level but the GLT) but let's see the technical specs.
Screw-up #1: The engine. 2300cc, GLT model, so probably a B230F. Those are known to make some 600 bhp in real life when properly modified with a turbo and some internal work. I wonder why we got 285 bhp with the same modifications.
Screw-up #2: The weight. GT4 says 1890 kg, real life says 1340 kg. I have no idea about what happened here. After full weight reduction it should weigh around 1150 kg and I have no doubts about it being possible to lighten a real 240 to those figures, I bet even lower is possible.
Screw-up #3: The handling. There's simply no chance to make the front end hit the tarmac under heavy braking. The GLT even had a sports suspension setup from the factory.
Taking all this into account, instead of the 285 bhp ~1600 kg boat we should have a ~600 bhp ~1150 kg sportswagon. Too much of a threat to the Stagea, Caldina and Legnum? Perhaps. There's nothing wrong with the car itself, it has more potential than, for example, the loved-by-all Civics and Silvias but PD decided to cripple it completely by 550 kg of unremovable extra ballast.
And how do I know the specs and handling of the real car? I own one.
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well they couldnt have let you take the power figure to its limits realistically, because then the hatchbacks with the 1.8 20v turbo engine (the vag setup) would be able to make just over 1000bhp. Just like they can be tuned to in real life. And a 1000bhp fwd car is just wrong! So they would have to include 4wd and rwd conversions in the game,and so on....
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I don't understand why we get a clumsy Volvo wagon, but not some of the older Volvo sports cars like the P1800. Or the 240 sedans and coupes which had some rally success.
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It is a car that means very much in Sweden. So it's definatly a keeper. As is the Prius. The 100+ year old cars should have a race of it's own. That would be fun
But in the pointless way they have been released they might as well be out of the game. The F1 should only be drivable in an F1 event.Cars that should really be gone...
NIKE ONE - it's not really a car, it's more of a futuristic invention not fit for a sim racing game.
JAY LENO TANK CAR - Yes it's an extremely cool car, but the game can never simulate that coolness, only the crappy feeling of it.
SKYLINES - R32 GTR, R33 GTR, R34 GTR... do we need more standard GTRs R32-R34?
Btw i drove a lap on the ring with the Prius on N1's just to test it out. I got around in about 10:30 with far from perfect driving. Top speed of 183 km/h. Battery held the whole lap
But a few km into lap 2 it died. Anyway this car deserves a place in the Gran Turismo series. Kinda fun to drive.
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Btw i drove a lap on the ring with the Prius on N1's just to test it out. I got around in about 10:30 with far from perfect driving. Top speed of 183 km/h. Battery held the whole lap
I agree. Who else thought to bring hybrid cars to a videogame? It's definitely a first. And in real-life, the Prius actually has been raced, tho I've read that in racing situations, the gas engine usually becomes the more prominent focus of the powertrain for some racing applications.
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Save the Estate wagon
! I used to collect these in the game before my garage got to full of them, so now I have 3 fully maxed ones. I used to have about 30.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to get rid of the Estate Wagon, its just too much fun, and properly modded it has enough power to get the job done against some high power cars. Honestly I have a 240 Drifting on the 'Ring as my background. It just looks awesome.
I was disappointed when I went searching the Volvo dealership ingame to find only one other Volvo. Shame on you PD.
I was disappointed when I went searching the Volvo dealership ingame to find only one other Volvo. Shame on you PD.
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Oh I wouldn't get rid of it. My question is: why include it but not some other Volvos that are more race-ready, lighter, and/or adaptable to the variety of situations GT demands. And (as you said) why only one Volvo in the dealership?--why is it a front-drive half-assed yuppymobile instead of something more willing. Volvo makes some AWD cars, too. 👎
I'm not saying you can't win some races in either of these cars. When I start exploring Volvos, you can bet I'll be the first one trying to make a 240 go up against a Corvette!
But like I said, why these models, and not some of the Volvos that have made a bit of history?
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and we don't need las vegas drag strip either, that is included to the test course already.💡
but, if there is utterly, totally and completely useless cars in this game, they have to be... *drumroll* the vauxhalls. THEY'RE GOD DAMN OPELS WITH DIFFERENT BADGE!
and the, more GM badge cloning.. Pontiac/Holden monaro. good grief.. atleas they didn't put that pile of junk into vauxhall lineup, even though, it would had fitted there perfectly.. and then there are these odd manufacturers with only one legendary car in their lineup. Dome, Spyker, Marcos, Callaway..
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I can't resist the temptation but to think that, although the (for instance) many Skyline GTR R34 clones aren't hugely different, that PD only took much energy to develop one R34, then spent 30 minutes each on every variation. I've found no amusement in any of the extra variations on cars, but I don't resent PD for putting them in; they're practically free cars.
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Oh really? Yeah it wouldn't surprise me. The PT Cruiser in GT3 and 4 starts off roughly 375 pounds lighter than it should. And there are many other examples I can't even think of at the moment.
...It's commonly thought of in America that the Japanese are meticulous, yet some of PD's data collectors for car modelling must have been the slackers of the bunch.
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Yep. Around 1200 pounds. I wrote a bit of an essay of it on the previous page.
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yeah quite a few cars are faster, or slower on the game in comparison to reality.
For examply, the spec-c impreza is not much faster than a normal WRX. However, in the game, theyve made it some sort of godlike supercar slayer.
And yes, i too support the 'against' side of the many variations of nissan skyline, like the midnight purple one, WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT A COLOUR OPTION ON THE NORMAL SKYLINE! Alot of those skylines weigh about the same, yet have completely different tuning abilites, the normal GTR-34 can spurr up almost 1000bhp, whereas the N1 only produces just shy of 750bhp.
For examply, the spec-c impreza is not much faster than a normal WRX. However, in the game, theyve made it some sort of godlike supercar slayer.
And yes, i too support the 'against' side of the many variations of nissan skyline, like the midnight purple one, WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT A COLOUR OPTION ON THE NORMAL SKYLINE! Alot of those skylines weigh about the same, yet have completely different tuning abilites, the normal GTR-34 can spurr up almost 1000bhp, whereas the N1 only produces just shy of 750bhp.
That seems very unrealistic considering it doesn't have over 600HP and it's well over 1000kg.
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I think in GT4 we have so many similar cars clones:
Skylines R32 R33 R34 . . .
Civic EK EG . . .
RX-7 FD . . .
NSX . . .
etc . . .
It will be nice to cut some of them on the next GT5 and put some new and classic machines!
Skylines R32 R33 R34 . . .
Civic EK EG . . .
RX-7 FD . . .
NSX . . .
etc . . .
It will be nice to cut some of them on the next GT5 and put some new and classic machines!
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Next GT, the GT5 will be on blueray disc, which means that size of the game is no issue, since BR-disc can storage 25Gb of data, or 50Gb is dual layer is used. thus, by all means, let the cloness roll, if it allows people to get their own car with exactly same specs..
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Get rid of the motorkhana instead. What's the purpose of that area again?? It doesn't work at all. Atleast the LV Strip WORKS!! Plus it's flat, and the test course has a slight elevation change so they need to stay seperate.
but, if there is utterly, totally and completely useless cars in this game, they have to be... *drumroll* the vauxhalls. THEY'RE GOD DAMN OPELS WITH DIFFERENT BADGE!
I agree with most of that. Apart from the Monaro being a piece of junk. It's a good car when tuned right.
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Gymkhana is good for testing out basic lowspeed capabilities at it. Plus I start most of my new cars there to get a general feel for them. Then I tune them around that.
As for a useless car to start with. I think it would be the Citroen 2CV. IT DOESN'T MOVE ON STANDING STARTS!
I had to get bumped up to speed in able to race it. Otherwise it was doing like 3 mph.
As for a useless car to start with. I think it would be the Citroen 2CV. IT DOESN'T MOVE ON STANDING STARTS!
I had to get bumped up to speed in able to race it. Otherwise it was doing like 3 mph.
