Imports

eiriksmil · Apr 18, 2009

Business as always.
Might as well contribute a little:

Might as well contribute some more, these are from a gtg today..

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

~Sp33~
This looks like it has been shoop lowered.

It's actually not.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

I've seen both pics, they both look like shoops.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

Then here is a third, although you can't tell much:

KW V3 suspension apparently.

The guy that owns HellaFlush.com is building it, it's not shopped.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

You can't see the drop at all in that picture. I saw the original post, still think it's shooped.

Check where the shadows are falling on the whole car in the 3/4 shot. Why is there no drop shadow on the rear tyre wall? Probably because the car was sitting higher, and fender wasn't originally in the way to block the suns rays.

The car is nice, and wow if it's real, but those pictures aren't convincing.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

~Sp33~
You can't see the drop at all in that picture. I saw the original post, still think it's shooped.

Check where the shadows are falling on the whole car in the 3/4 shot. Why is there no drop shadow on the rear tyre wall? Probably because the car was sitting higher, and fender wasn't originally in the way to block the suns rays.

The car is nice, and wow if it's real, but those pictures aren't convincing.

The side shot doesn't have that problem. I think it was just some weird lighting, it's possible.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

Perhaps. The side view's rear bumper looks wrong too. Looks like a bit of lighter ground has been lowered with the car.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

~Sp33~
Perhaps. The side view's rear bumper looks wrong too. Looks like a bit of lighter ground has been lowered with the car.

Look at the rear quarter pic, that's just a darker spot on the ground.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

I'm talking about here:

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

I dunno then. I'm kinda 50/50 on the pics, but the guy responsible for the car has done legit stuff like this before, not to mention the car has a suspension perfectly capable of putting the car at that level. I just don't see any reason why the dude would waste his time shooping the pic.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

Perfect Balance
I dunno then. I'm kinda 50/50 on the pics, but the guy responsible for the car has done legit stuff like this before, not to mention the car has a suspension perfectly capable of putting the car at that level. I just don't see any reason why the dude would waste his time shooping the pic.

Perhaps it was just shooped by someone else.

What're some of his other works? It's a really clean Porsche.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

~Sp33~
Perhaps it was just shooped by someone else.

What're some of his other works? It's a really clean Porsche.

The dude put up those pictures himself, so he was the only one to have them when they were posted.

And of course I can't find a single thing when I need it. I'm starting to think it may have been someone else I was thinking of.

Keef · Apr 18, 2009

Maybe they're prototype pics, to see what it would look like before he did it.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

Keef is your avatar a picture of you?

Keef · Apr 18, 2009

Yes. It's a new avatar fad.

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

Makes you look like a wanker.

Prosthetic · Apr 18, 2009

The last page is effing epic.

CDailey · Apr 18, 2009

Perfect Balance
This is why I hate Rota wheels and any other knockoff parts. I would post it here but it's a big article.

http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog...t-truthabout-jdm-aka-the-death-of-innovation/

It's a good read, check it out.

So you hate Rota because they offer a cheaper version of an expensive product? That's really dumb. No, I don't agree with them not doing any R&D and coming up with their own ideas, but disowning them (or anyone who puts their wheels on their car) only because they are not the real thing is pretty stupid IMO. I don't want to argue, but if that is the only reason you are giving me...wow.

homeforsummer · Apr 18, 2009

~Sp33~
Makes you look like a wanker.

Where people who sugarcoat things can eff off

~Sp33~ · Apr 18, 2009

Prosthetic
The last page is effing epic.

Is that because i posted there? :sly:

Keef · Apr 18, 2009

CDailey
So you hate Rota because they offer a cheaper version of an expensive product? That's really dumb. No, I don't agree with them not doing any R&D and coming up with their own ideas, but disowning them (or anyone who puts their wheels on their car) only because they are not the real thing is pretty stupid IMO. I don't want to argue, but if that is the only reason you are giving me...wow.

They and many other brands making many other things have zero innovation in their products. They really are just blatant copies. While they may pass the test, the quality of materials, manufacturing process, and craftsman ship in general is all questionable. Once the innovative racing companies all go out of business we'll be left with brands who don't have the capacity to come up with new and better products, because they only experience they've ever had is making copies.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

CDailey
So you hate Rota because they offer a cheaper version of an expensive product? That's really dumb. No, I don't agree with them not doing any R&D and coming up with their own ideas, but disowning them (or anyone who puts their wheels on their car) only because they are not the real thing is pretty stupid IMO. I don't want to argue, but if that is the only reason you are giving me...wow.

No, I don't hate Rota because they offer and a cheaper version of an expensive product.

Read the link I posted. That is why I hate any rip off product, and if you haven't noticed the toll it's taken on new products and innovation for our cars then you're simply in denial, and Rota is a HUGE factor in that just by itself because of it's massive success.

On another note, here is my car on 15x7 +21 Watanabe wheels.

Flush is epic.👍

CDailey · Apr 18, 2009

Keef
They and many other brands making many other things have zero innovation in their products. They really are just blatant copies. While they may pass the test, the quality of materials, manufacturing process, and craftsman ship in general is all questionable. Once the innovative racing companies all go out of business we'll be left with brands who don't have the capacity to come up with new and better products, because they only experience they've ever had is making copies.

I highly doubt the companies Rota and the like are copying will go out of business any time soon. There will always be people who want the real thing, and there will always be who are willing to take a small hit on craftsmenship/quality of materials (seriously, how many reports of broken Rota wheels are there? Surely they would have been long out of business if it was a common problem.) to get something that looks like the real deal and performs almost the same.

edit: PB posted while I was quoting Keef...

No, I don't hate Rota because they offer and a cheaper version of an expensive product.

Read the link I posted. That is why I hate any rip off product, and if you haven't noticed the toll it's taken on new products and innovation for our cars then you're simply in denial.

I did read the link you posted. The example the guy who wrote that article used is kinda lame IMO. One company decided to discontinue one item because they didn't wan't people to confuse their original item with that of the knockoff. How is that taking a toll on "new products and innovation" for your cars? I'm not in your "scene" so I have no idea whats in or cool or innovative or whatever. I know what I like and what looks cool and if I can buy a set of wheels from Rota for under $1000 that looks just like a set of wheels that cost $4000 in Japan, you bet your ass I will.

homeforsummer · Apr 18, 2009

Perfect Balance

That looks absolutely fantastic 👍 Are they your latest rims or have you just borrowed them off a friend's car?

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

CDailey
I highly doubt the companies Rota and the like are copying will go out of business any time soon.

Really?

Takumi Project was an importer for JDM wheels, the only official distributor for Watanabe wheels in the US. They've gone out of business. I can think of 3 Watanabe Ripoffs off the top of my head right now.

Trust USA anyone?

I'm in a hurry right now but I can come up with more if you want later.

EDIT: Those are borrowed off my buddies Miata. That's why there's only pics of the left side of the car.

CDailey · Apr 18, 2009

Perfect Balance
Really?

Takumi Project was an importer for JDM wheels, the only official distributor for Watanabe wheels in the US. They've gone out of business. I can think of 3 Watanabe Ripoffs off the top of my head right now.

So buy them from Japan?

Trust USA anyone?

No idea what that is. Like I said, I'm not in the import scene.

I'm in a hurry right now but I can come up with more if you want later.

No thanks. Like I said a few posts ago, I don't want to argue. We obviously have differing opinions so we might as well leave it at that.

Btw, your car looks badass with those wheels. 👍

Joey D · Apr 18, 2009

CDailey
One company decided to discontinue one item because they didn't wan't people to confuse their original item with that of the knockoff. How is that taking a toll on "new products and innovation" for your cars? I'm not in your "scene" so I have no idea whats in or cool or innovative or whatever. I know what I like and what looks cool and if I can buy a set of wheels from Rota for under $1000 that looks just like a set of wheels that cost $4000 in Japan, you bet your ass I will.

QFT, I'm sort of annoyed with the way some members are elitest that think everything on their car has to be mad tyte JDM yo. If the owner of the car likes it then whatever. Like what you like and don't let other influence you.

Perfect Balance · Apr 18, 2009

Joey D
QFT, I'm sort of annoyed with the way some members are elitest that think everything on their car has to be mad tyte JDM yo. If the owner of the car likes it then whatever. Like what you like and don't let other influence you.

I don't care for JDM.

It is what it is. I don't care what people do to their cars, but when theirs actions are a direct cause to the lack of new innovation and engineering applied to our cars, then it starts to get a bit annoying to say the least. Companies that have been around for a long time, started with the concept of bringing new, fresh ideas to the table are being killed off by blatant theives.

I should take the phrase "don't let others influence you" that you said. What if you don't have a choice because suddenly the product you wanted for your car is not available anymore because the company can't afford to produce it?

Opinions are opinions, but there's nothing "elitist" about disliking criminals and those who support them, especially when it affects you personally.

slidesquad#1 · Apr 19, 2009

~Sp33~
This looks like it has been shoop lowered.

This is DEFINITELY a shop. Look at the front wheel and tyre. You can clearly see space and bodywork where you shouldn't be able to.

Perfect Balance · Apr 19, 2009

I can't.

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