Hands on with a Logitech Driving Force GT

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Went by my Gamestop today (4-14) & they had a DFGT wheel in stock so I picked one up to replace the DFP I've been using since GT4 came out in 05.
I was kind of surprised it was in stock since I didn't think they would be out until the 30th.

The pedal assembly & the wheel mount appear to be identical to my DFP wheel it replaced.

The wheel is completely different though.
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I won't go through every detail on the differences since most on here already know the differences but here is some high lights.
It has a PS button, it works in game but for some reason it doesn't work in the XMB.
The D pad, X,O,Triangle & Square buttons work in the XMB but the PS button does not... strange.
The wheel itself is larger in diameter but the grip is smaller & the rubber surrounding the wheel is harder than the DFP.

The wheel seems to be more precise than the DFP but then again it could be the difference between a new wheel & a wore out one.

The FFB is noticeably weaker than the DFP in both kickback & when you hit the rumble strips.
The DFP would pound pretty hard set on strong but the DFGT is weaker.
Now I have the FFB turned on & set to 10 but I'm not sure what the option above the on/off is since I'm still playing the Japanese version & maybe playing with one of those three settings will give it more punch, I'll have a better idea Thursday when I get the North American version of GT5P & set it up again.

The 2 green lights are gone & in it's place is a backlit GT symbol on the "Horn button", I think it looks nice with it lit up!
I'm disappointed they didn't do the back lighting on the X,O,Triangle & Square buttons as well.
The "Horn button" however seems to have no function, once again this may be able to be fixed with the NA version which I can actually read!!

The D pad, X,O,Triangle & Square buttons have a stronger spring in them, this could be that my old wheel was wore out but the brake & accelerator pedals seem to have the same spring tension as the DFP did.

Now the fun part...the real time adjustments!
They are neat but can be distracting so practice with it offline first!
I was in such a hurry to play with the new wheel I didn't set everything up right in the QT menu so when I realized my brakes weren't right & just clicked it on & adjusted then on the fly, same thing with the center differential on the Nissan GT-R.
It's a cool addition!

I wish they would have upgraded the pedals & gave the wheel more "heft" as well as made it thicker.

All in all it's a great replacement for my wore out DFP & I'm betting there will be a wireless G25 version of this wheel released with the full GT5.
 
Can you answer one question?

How loud is it compared to the DFP?

Does the wheel turn back by its self with FFB? i dont know how to explain it, but for example with the G25, when your drifting and you want to counter steer, the wheel almost does it itself on the DFP you really have to force it.

How is it on the DFGT?

Thanks for the mini review.
 
How is the center steering spring for that wheel?

I returned my DFP for a G25 because the DFB was too stiff to return to center.
 
SaNTi iTNaS
Can you answer one question?

How loud is it compared to the DFP?

Does the wheel turn back by its self with FFB? i dont know how to explain it, but for example with the G25, when your drifting and you want to counter steer, the wheel almost does it itself on the DFP you really have to force it.

How is it on the DFGT?

Thanks for the mini review.
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That's 2 questions!!
One answer, it is quieter than the DFP

I don't drift so I'm not sure how to answer your 2nd question.

Cerbera77
How is the center steering spring for that wheel?

I returned my DFP for a G25 because the DFB was too stiff to return to center.
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It feels like a weaker spring than the DFP.
 
Now that I have the North American version of GT5P I can see I had the power steering set to on, turning it off helped some but it just doesn't have the strength in FFB as the DFP did, but to be fair the DFP had much stronger FFB in GT4 than it did in GT5P so it may be a software thing.
 
I hear that wheel is closer with FFB to G25 then to old DFP wheel.
And as well, G25 feels weaker compared to DFP. But then again its more realistic, because Sports car's should not tear your hands off. Just drive a car in real life, the steering is fairly light, even if you hit bumps on road. Thats why PD decided to weaken it up a bit to have more real experience.
 
So do you say this is a good buy?
I amn currently wanting a wheel badly and hopefully I can make a discussion with my parents how they are not buying me a sports car then why not give me the third best thing ( second beeing a go-cart).
 
Can you please take pictures of the paddle shifters? Just want to see how big and comfy they are.
 
wrcsti
Can you please take pictures of the paddle shifters? Just want to see how big and comfy they are.
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The paddle shifters are just two wide buttons on the back side of the wheel. Your index fingers rest naturally in their location.
 
After reading all the back and forth on the G25 v. Fanatec 911, I happened to watch the behind the scenes movie about GT5. In it, the benevolent dictator himself is driving with the DF GT! If it's good enough for him, it's plenty enough for me. And you know what? It's a great wheel for the money.

I also own the DFP wheel, although it resides in another state. I favor the DF GT but not by a whole lot. The larger diameter wheel and brake pedal are nice, but the red dial is especially cool as it allows for in race, on the fly switching of driver settings. A great feature as you get to know your cars. It is quieter than the DFP and the wheel is better built. The quality of the rest of the unit is on par with the DFP. As for the FFB. I would say rather than "weaker" it is more refined. What bothered me about the DFP was it's hesitation to return to 0. The DF GT does not linger, and it allows you to feed out the wheel with grace on exiting a turn.

For $149, it's a deal (had it been wireless...a steal). I highly doubt given this game was designed on a DF GT that the G25 and Fanatec are worth twice the price...at least in this application.
 
Thanks for the mini-review... two questions:
1. Have you tried the wheel with DiRT or Burnout - only GT5P is listed in Logitech's compatibility.

2. Have you (or can you) hook the wheel up to a PS2? Does GT4 work nicely with it? (I guess that last one was a third question)

Thanks
 
I got a DF GT today. my first real wheel,quite a lot of learnimg needed.dont anybody insert wheel noob here- expect to be competitive online right away. altho with a wheel it was almost fun losing.almost.
One thing ive found out right away getting hit by someone sends you flying out of control.compared to a controller where i barely notice hits.right now i'm still better with the DS3.

yes Dirt works with it if you can control it.it was weird feeling compared to Turismo.
I have my FFB set at 7.i've tryed most all settings and was most comfortable there.
I saw mention the DFP has stronger FFB?
I cant believe that.the F2007 at daytona on a straight about tore off my arms shaking so hard!
 
I ordered my DFGT online and it arrived today and I love it, its a DFP but refined, perfected, very smooth and the centering spring is nice. I enjoy it, and it works good for drifting too, especially cause of the centering spring, and its easier to feel what the car is doing because the FFB is alot nicer on this wheel. A Must buy for people looking for a better wheel or just looking for a wheel in general.
 
Can you please take pictures of the paddle shifters? Just want to see how big and comfy they are.
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They are buttons behind 9 and 3 o'clock more than paddles. I'm still soiling my diapers with mine. (new DFGT & first time wheel owner after 10 years) :crazy:
 
I didn't really want to make a separate thread for this, but for those of you who have the DFGT, what FFB settings are you using for the wheel in GT5 prologue? I actually just bought one today, and it is my first true racing wheel, and love it so far.....however, whenever I SLIGHTLY lose control of a RWD car, and even some 4WD cars, I have a hard time figuring out when how to correct it. I know it takes practice, but i don't think i should be spinning out as much as I am....and drifting is a whole other story...it's a nightmare haha.

Anyways, my game settings at the moment are:
Pro physics, no TCS or Active Steering

My wheel settings are:
Professional
Power Steering: On
Strength: 4

Any suggestions? I messed around a little bit and found that the wheel is fairly strong IMO, so 9 and 10 felt to strong for my tastes.

Basically all I'm trying to do is find the best settings to help correct oversteer without spinning out so easily.
 
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I'm using similar settings to your but I have the FFB turned up as high as it will go.
I'm used to my DFP which had much stronger FFB so even on high the DFGT is not as strong.

I've never done any drifting though so I have no idea there.
 
TheMoose
^^^
I'm using similar settings to your but I have the FFB turned up as high as it will go.
I'm used to my DFP which had much stronger FFB so even on high the DFGT is not as strong.

I've never done any drifting though so I have no idea there.
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Are you using the Simulation wheel setting or professional? I'm using professional at the moment, but i don't know how much of a difference there is.
 
RacingFreak2k3
Are you using the Simulation wheel setting or professional? I'm using professional at the moment, but i don't know how much of a difference there is.
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It may be on sim I'll have to check that next time I play.
 
TheMoose
It may be on sim I'll have to check that next time I play.
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Oh ok sounds good. Hey I just realized your old online racing name was RaceVW14, and you were on my old buddy list. My name was "Gottcha". Guess I'll have to add your GTP name to my GTP account 👍


EDIT: UGGGHH I'm having so much trouble with powerful RWD cars. I actually set my wheel at Simulation mode, and my force feedback is at 7 now, and I like it a lot like that....but do you personally have any trouble driving Powerful RWD cars in pro physics? For instance, i just bought an F40, and with S2 tires (time trial), and TCS ON, I can't turn the slightest when 3/4 throttle, and the thing kicks out on me. I don't know what else to do to control it.
 
RacingFreak2k3
.....For instance, i just bought an F40, and with S2 tires (time trial), and TCS ON, I can't turn the slightest when 3/4 throttle, and the thing kicks out on me. I don't know what else to do to control it.
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Try a little toe-in on the rear and lots of negative camber all around- keep adding neg. camber until braking suffers then go back some. Should help.
 
sim and profession and amateur settings for the wheel do not relate to the driving force GT...but only to the force pro i thinkl....just read the instructions.
 
DrBimmer
sim and profession and amateur settings for the wheel do not relate to the driving force GT...but only to the force pro i thinkl....just read the instructions.
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They relate to ALL supported wheels. That is also the same menu in which you can adjust FF. If you have FF set to 0 then regardless of if you're using a DFP, DFGT or G25 the FF will be non-existant.
 

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