Joey's New Desktop Purchased!

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New Desktop Purchased

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The rest of my components arrived today from Newegg and overall I'm pretty happy with the end build list.

So the final specs for the new computer are as follows:

  • Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)
  • ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 ATX Motherboard
  • ADATA S511 Series AS511S3-120GM-C 2.5" 120GB SSD (up to 550mbs read 510mbs write)
  • HIS IceQ X Turbo H695QNT2G2M Radeon HD 6950 2GB
  • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
  • COOLER MASTER Intel Core i5 GeminII heatsink
  • Rosewill CHALLENGER case with fans
  • 2 Aero Cool Shark 120mm fans

I'll be putting it together Monday night after work I think. I have the holiday tomorrow and Sunday I have a few things to do so I won't get to it till next week. I am very excited to put it together though!

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I'm mulling around the idea of building a new desktop now that I have a job, my current CPU/RAM/MoBo set up is nearing 6 years old or so and I think it's time to retire it. I haven't really followed any of the trends too much since I haven't been in the market for a computer in quite a while, but after some research I cobbled a list together.

For my use, I do play quite a few games on my PC, as well as do Photoshop work and some messing around in 3DSMax. I do not watch movies, nor am I in need of a Blu-Ray.

I also have storage harddrives up the wahzoo so I don't need anything there, I'm already planning to mount my 2TB in there for that purpose.

So here's what I've come up with:
Total: $914.16

Any thoughts? Critiques? Suggestions? I'm open to just about anything as long as I can keep it under a $1,000.
 
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One thing is for sure is that you don't need a P67 chipset motherboard if you are not going to overclock your CPU(need the i5-2500K version to overclock). You can save some money and get a H67 chipset motherboard if you don't plan to overclock. The RAM you selected is too expensive, get these if you wanted something similar to those timings. I'd get this SSD, write speed is tons faster and the read speed is faster too. You also forgotten to include a Power Supply and a DVD Drive in that list.
 
Only two I could think to change. You could also opt for a better HSF (unless you have no intention of OC'ing), and perhaps a 560.

G.Skill Sniper 8GB - $49.99
Coolermaster HAF 922 - $99.99

nick09
One thing is for sure is that you don't need a P67 chipset motherboard if you are not going to overclock your CPU(need the i5-2500K version to overclock).
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That's just flat out wrong.
 
Yikes. $120 for 8gb of 1600 ram?
Sorry Joey but out of all those items, the CPU and mobo might be the only things I would consider. Don't know much about SSDs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
or this if you want better timings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

cheaper cooler, but better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445
though you might wanna put the money you saved with the ram into this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

for a case I'd get something from the lianli lancool series if you want to limit yourself to $100.

I'll try to post some more when I get back.

Terronium-12




That's just flat out wrong.
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All you can do is OC the turbo mode by up to a 4x multi, right?
 
eSZee
All you can do is OC the turbo mode by up to a 4x multi, right?
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Basically. The turbo multiplier can be switched from 34 to 38, or something along those lines. I forget.

*Checks*

Yep. Especially since it's being paired with a P67; no doubt the 2500k is better for the additional $15, $20 but the non-k can still OC.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I would be reusing my power supply that's in my PC right now. It's only a year old and it's 650W, which should be more then enough power. I also have two DVD burners in my PC and 2 more in my media server.

Based on what everyone has thrown in so far this would be my new build:
I kept the MoBo and graphics car the same, Tom's Hardware gave both these products a thumbs up. I opted for a different heat sink because I'm worried about space to be honest.

I don't think I really have any intentions of overclocking so I really don't need to worry that much I think.
 
Worried about space is which aspect? Case clearance or RAM clearance?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...tion&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na
http://www.buy.com/prod/ocz-technol...pl120g-120gb-2-5-sata-ii-solid/222809483.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820139421

Oh, if you're not overclocking, save yourself the $20 and get the SNIPERs that Ter12 suggested or save another $8 and get these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
1333 speed but if I'm not mistaken, both amd and intel IMCs run at 1333 anyway.
 
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The $40 difference between the RAM and the SSD seems worth it to me for a little bit better performance, although it would bring the total down around $850. And I do supposed that if the CPU can handle a bit of overclocking then I might as well do it.
 
I'd just get a normal HDD for now and wait for a sale on SSD's. I am seeing 64GB for under 100 on a regular basis, even for the faster ones.
 
I'm sure I can find a better deal on the SSD if I search around the internet, Newegg is just my go to place since they have everything there and it's easily searchable. And after seeing what SSD can do, I'm thinking it's the only way to go even if it means spending a little more.
 
Joey, you don't even need a SSD though. My computer has a 7200RPM HDD connected to a SATA3GBps port. It boots up in under a minute. It also responds amazingly fast on DDR2-667 RAM. You're honestly worrying about the wrong things. Get it stable first, before deciding you NEED it to be "fast."
 
If he wants to have a 60gb SSD as a boot drive, why not? Booting into windows in 10 seconds sure sounds appealing.
 
Joey seems to think it is. It was his choice to include a SSD and if his budget allows, why not?
Only reason I don't have one is because the $/GP price is still a bit high though I'm aware you can't compare SSD prices to SD card prices.
 
Joey D
I'm sure I can find a better deal on the SSD if I search around the internet, Newegg is just my go to place since they have everything there and it's easily searchable. And after seeing what SSD can do, I'm thinking it's the only way to go even if it means spending a little more.
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I meant on sale via Newegg. Which happens fairly often. Not to mention a RAID setup would cost less and be just about as fast and have a longer life span, with more space.
 
Azuremen
I meant on sale via Newegg. Which happens fairly often. Not to mention a RAID setup would cost less and be just about as fast and have a longer life span, with more space.
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Isn't that only the case if it supports TRIM?
 
Check out the drives you're planning on migrating to the new system. New MBs don't include IDE connectors, so you'll need a new DVD drive if it isn't SATA. That's another ~$20 to add to the build. Plus replacing any IDE HDD you might not be able to use.
 
Azuremen
Not to mention a RAID setup would cost less and be just about as fast and have a longer life span, with more space.
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He would need to have VELOCIRAPTORS in raid in order to get close to low/mid range SSDs.
Ssd for OS and programs is what most advise to do.
 
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I agree with eSZee. You'd want to get a VelociRaptor to even get into the long term life of an SSD and those VelociRaptor things run hot! The SSD I suggested has a MTBF of 2 million hours which is a theoretical life of 91.5 years constantly on 24/7 where the VelociRaptor would last 64 years with a MTBF of 1.4 million hours.

Here's a good point, he won't be playing with a raid of VelociRaptors, which would add tons of noise and put out tons of heat. A RAID is for someone who wants Enterprise levels of stability with more storage not a person who plays the usual video game and checks the internet. Your ideas are really stuck in one channel. An SSD will bring that level speed beyond a VelociRaptor with no noise and barely any heat.
 
eSZee
He would need to have VELOCIRAPTORS in raid in order to get close to low/mid range SSDs.
Ssd for OS and programs is what most advise to do.
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What you will see are a few seconds here and there. In short, real world isn't going to care too much. Now if you get off on "omg, he is getting 3fps more than me, how?" when both people are making elevendy fps, then go for it.

Real world. Gotta remember that.

Nick09
Here's a good point, he won't be playing with a raid of VelociRaptors, which would add tons of noise and put out tons of heat. A RAID is for someone who wants Enterprise levels of stability with more storage not a person who plays the usual video game and checks the internet. Your ideas are really stuck in one channel. An SSD will bring that level speed beyond a VelociRaptor with no noise and barely any heat.
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Did you really, seriously, just imply I'm stuck in "one channel?"

Maybe I am, maybe its the channel called "useful" and not "here are numbers and some random charts that show how this is 2% better than that, never mind the fact its all irrelevant to the real world."

For the cost, he will get comparable speeds and performance to an SSD with a RAID setup for less money, more stablity, and not really much more noise (I don't hear the HDD ever over anything else in the case these days)

Or you can get Velicoroflters. And then get off to pointless numbers. Which is what you seem to do.
 
Don't you get that SSD's run faster? The speed makes the difference for a regular user and business. Time is money. Joey does not need a 150GB VelociRaptor as he has other hard drives to use if he wanted to.
 
nick09
Don't you get that SSD's run faster? The speed makes the difference for a regular user and business. Time is money.
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No, nick, I am completely unaware that they have zero seek time, and no moving parts, or they run fast. At all. I also don't know how flash have a limited number of read/write cycles, or costs 20 times as much per gig.

And arguing about saving time? Oh my. 10 seconds here, 15 there. Of course, with 8 gigs of RAM, you can just leave everything open. Always. And virtually no issues. Unless you are working with hilariously large files in Photoshop.

Besides, if wants an SSD, he can get one at Newegg on sale right now. My first bit of advice was to wait, then I suggest a RAID setup. You guys decided to assume Velicoroflters. You also seem to assume that everyone wants to overclock, and that you talk about heat like its the world's biggest issue. Dang, I must be mad, running Rosewill fan in my Rosewill case, with a cheap-ish CPU fan cooling my stuff. Just raving mad.
 
nick09
The speed makes the difference for a regular user and business.
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Explain how the speed compared to a fast mechanical makes a difference. Having Windows, games etc boot up 10 seconds faster is nice and all but it's a minimal difference and for the regular user is all but pointless. YAY my game launches in 2 seconds instead of 8, because 8 seconds is an eternity.

Oh wait.

nick09
Time is money.
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Please stop posting. ktnxbai
 
My opinion on the SSD vs HDD debate is this:

SSD are great if you can afford one with a large enough capacity to a lot of the things you like on it. In my opinion this is 128GB+ and these still aren't cheap (My 128GB SSD was $250, I could have got 4-5TB of HDD for the same price). Having the OS on the SDD is nice, but if that's all you can fit on than it kinda sucks that Windows is responsive and then your programs load up slowly(er).

If you want the space for the price, then RAID-0 HDDs do give a performance benefit, not up to SSD levels, but for most people it wouldn't be too noticeable. I wouldn't run RAID-0 with no back-up drive/system though. Which adds to the cost.

That said, running the OS on a regular HDD is still perfectly acceptable. Pick up a decently fast drive like the WD black and it will still be plenty fast for 90% of people.
 
I know from REAL people like to have windows boot faster and people who work in a business like to work with a faster machine and get their work done faster. I know REAL people who like the idea of using an SSD drive to have that 10 second boot up to check the internet quickly for email and then quickly shut the computer down to go and tend to other priorities.
 
Azuremen
What you will see are a few seconds here and there. In short, real world isn't going to care too much. Now if you get off on "omg, he is getting 3fps more than me, how?" when both people are making elevendy fps, then go for it.

Real world. Gotta remember that.



Did you really, seriously, just imply I'm stuck in "one channel?"

Maybe I am, maybe its the channel called "useful" and not "here are numbers and some random charts that show how this is 2% better than that, never mind the fact its all irrelevant to the real world."

For the cost, he will get comparable speeds and performance to an SSD with a RAID setup for less money, more stablity, and not really much more noise (I don't hear the HDD ever over anything else in the case these days)

Or you can get Velicoroflters. And then get off to pointless numbers. Which is what you seem to do.
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FPS has nothing to do with it.
He will not get close to the same performance with regular HDDs in raid, not in the real world. Gotta remember that.
He will save what money? $50? SSD HDD for storage will run him what, $160?
As for reliability, it goes down, halves?, with each added drive.
 
nick09
I know from REAL people like to have windows boot faster and people who work in a business like to work with a faster machine and get their work done faster.
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:lol: Good one.

eSZee
He will not get close to the same performance with regular HDDs in raid, not in the real world. Gotta remember that.
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In the real world, what's the benefit for having an SSD over a good HDD? Saving 5 seconds here and there? Some benefit that is.
 

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