CVG Hand on impressions

Skidmark · Aug 20, 2009

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=221677

They seem pretty unimpressed. Mind you they didn't even recognise the track!!

yeti · Aug 20, 2009

CVG are known Xbox fanboys... I'd pretty much ignore anything they say...

In fact - I'm surprised that they even have a story about it today - they're usually a week out of date.

C.

EDIT: proof is in the first sentence...

CVG
It's been delayed so much, we almost didn't believe it when we discovered that Gran Turismo 5 - NOT Prologue, but the actual sequel - was playable on the Gamescom show floor.

Delay? - what delay? - They cleary know f all about GT5.

amar212 · Aug 20, 2009

Most significant sentence of them all:

"A Sony rep also told us that crashing too much could result in terminal damage ending our race early.."

Mechanical damage pretty much confirmed.

yeti · Aug 20, 2009

amar212
Most significant sentence of them all:

"A Sony rep also told us that crashing too much could result in terminal damage ending our race early.."

Mechanical damage pretty much confirmed.

Indeed - the only thing of any worth in that article... and that their car could only manage 140KPH after too much stacking.

C.

II IVORBIGUN II · Aug 20, 2009

What they seem to know about Gran Turismo could be written on a postage stamp!

Grandi · Aug 20, 2009

amar212
Most significant sentence of them all:

"A Sony rep also told us that crashing too much could result in terminal damage ending our race early.."

Mechanical damage pretty much confirmed.

Spotted the same one. This is great news, though, one I've certainly been hoping to hear!

And for others, I wouldn't bash too hard on CVG, obviously they weren't that familiar with the GT series, but I saw nothing appalling in the article.

FyreandIce · Aug 20, 2009

yeti
CVG are known Xbox fanboys... I'd pretty much ignore anything they say...

In fact - I'm surprised that they even have a story about it today - they're usually a week out of date.

C.

EDIT: proof is in the first sentence...

Delay? - what delay? - They cleary know f all about GT5.

The only fanboyish behavior is yours.

Anyone who says anything that isn't pure praise of GT is obviously a fanboy to you.

Jay · Aug 20, 2009

He clearly isn't too familiar with the GT series after his Tokyo comment but his little preview wasn't too bad, his was dissapointed it was a 1 car (1 playable car) and 1 track with only minor denting.

It's nice to see the Sony rep comment though.

Skidmark · Aug 20, 2009

amar212
Most significant sentence of them all:

"A Sony rep also told us that crashing too much could result in terminal damage ending our race early.."

Mechanical damage pretty much confirmed.

Yeah it should make people think twice about using the back of my car to slow down.

Question is though, will mechanical damage apply to the cars that don't suffer visual damage?

sher_da_putt · Aug 20, 2009

duncan.hodge
Yeah it should make people think twice about using the back of my car to slow down.

Question is though, will mechanical damage apply to the cars that don't suffer visual damage?

I hope so. Although, it would be a weird feeling.

dancardesigner · Aug 20, 2009

duncan.hodge
Yeah it should make people think twice about using the back of my car to slow down.

Question is though, will mechanical damage apply to the cars that don't suffer visual damage?

I wonder if it is real mechanical damage, or merely a performance limitation. For instance if like on GTA4 you smack you right front the wheel will become locked up and affect the handling.

Grandi · Aug 20, 2009

duncan.hodge
Yeah it should make people think twice about using the back of my car to slow down.

Question is though, will mechanical damage apply to the cars that don't suffer visual damage?

If indeed production cars don't have visual damage representation, I would think mechanical damage is well beyond visual damage in severity, as far as the manufacturers are concerned.

dancardesigner
I wonder if it is real mechanical damage, or merely a performance limitation. For instance if like on GTA4 you smack you right front the wheel will become locked up and affect the handling.

The wobbly bits in the first damage video certainly propose actual effects rather than performance scalability.

Strittan · Aug 20, 2009

Well, I think none of us are impressed so far, so why should we blame CVG?

Grandi · Aug 20, 2009

Strittan
Well, I think none of us are impressed so far, so why should we blame CVG?

I am.

FyreandIce · Aug 20, 2009

Grandi
The wobbly bits in the first damage video certainly propose actual effects rather than performance scalability.

I don't see a connection between loose body work and performance.

Anyway, I hope the mechanical damage was toned way down for the demo because you should never hit a wall at ~200KM/H and still be able to drive.

Jay · Aug 20, 2009

I hope it includes engine and drivetrain damage due to abuse, for example all those in GT5Per that drop right down the gears way too quickly and over rev severely while entering most corners.

Strittan
Well, I think none of us are impressed so far, so why should we blame CVG?

I am impressed but I don't blame CVG.

amar212 · Aug 20, 2009

Strittan
Well, I think none of us are impressed so far, so why should we blame CVG?

I am impressed. And I am "one of you". Hmm.. Do you know something I do not know regading being myself?

Grandi · Aug 20, 2009

FyreandIce
I don't see a connection between loose body work and performance.

I'm actually referring to the bits in the video (time-wise) where the steering input is rapidly fluctuating after a crash.

edit: Actually not steering input (those would be the player's actions), but the steering itself in the game (how the entire car moves)

Kinetic · Aug 20, 2009

im very impressed and then to have mechanical damage confirmed its great news.

don't see how you cant be impressed and if your dissapointed you only have yourself to blame

Strittan · Aug 20, 2009

amar212
I am impressed. And I am "one of you". Hmm.. Do you know something I do not know regading being myself?

Ok, I take it back then. But I only said 'I think'.

Kinetic
don't see how you cant be impressed and if your dissapointed you only have yourself to blame

I'm not very impressed because the damage so far looks like a joke to me, and I'm still confused about the Premium cars, I don't know how many tracks there will be either. Damage to less than 20% of the cars sounds odd, although I understand why PD has done it that way.

But hey, that's just me. It was stupid to claim none of us are impressed, that I regret.

Cap'n Jack · Aug 20, 2009

Strittan
Well, I think none of us are impressed so far, so why should we blame CVG?

You can't speak for everyone. I'm impressed.

Jay
I hope it includes engine and drivetrain damage due to abuse, for example all those in GT5Per that drop right down the gears way too quickly and over rev severely while entering most corners.

Damn right. 👍

yeti · Aug 20, 2009

FyreandIce
The only fanboyish behavior is yours.

Anyone who says anything that isn't pure praise of GT is obviously a fanboy to you.

Not at all - CVG is known to be an Xbox favouring website - most of that article is very poorly researched... and clearly written by someone who has a predisposition to be against the game...

The only bits of useful information are where they have reported what Sony/PD have told them.

C.

FyreandIce · Aug 20, 2009

Grandi
I'm actually referring to the bits in the video (time-wise) where the steering input is rapidly fluctuating after a crash.

edit: Actually not steering input (those would be the player's actions), but the steering itself in the game (how the entire car moves)

Could be caused by damage where the steering goes loose but seeing that it corrects itself shortly there after it is probably the players input causing it.

Grandi · Aug 20, 2009

yeti
Not at all - CVG is known to be an Xbox favouring website

That can't be "known", unless they publicly and openly express (and I don't mean one game gets better scores than another) a favourism towards Xbox. Additionally, as the article is written by a single reporter, you can't equal the reporter to the entire website.

Skidmark · Aug 20, 2009

I'm more excited about the game than I ever have been.

You know why? Because its actually being shown off and for the first time I am seeing GT5 with my own eyes.

Alright it might not be have everything everyone wants but its still looking like a bonafide GT game and thats good enough for me. The problem is that we have been talking about what we want for so long the list is now absolutely huge!! It was never going to tick all the boxes.

We moan that PD keep us fans in the dark and don't give any info and when they do we absolutely kill them for it.

888 Tuning · Aug 20, 2009

/Life of Brian voice
I'm impressed and so is my wife !
/end Life of Brian voice

I think the game has made sensational progress ahead cant wait for the release.. Screw the nay-sayers.

yeti · Aug 20, 2009

Grandi
That can't be "known", unless they publicly and openly express (and I don't mean one game gets better scores than another) a favourism towards Xbox. Additionally, as the article is written by a single reporter, you can't equal the reporter to the entire website.

It is known by all that read the website...

The views are that of CVG as it is written for them - there is no tag line saying "The views expressed in this article are not necessarily those of CVG" - therefore I can...

C.

Christian_C · Aug 20, 2009

Strittan
Ok, I take it back then. But I only said 'I think'.

I'm not very impressed because the damage so far looks like a joke to me, and I'm still confused about the Premium cars, I don't know how many tracks there will be either. Damage to less than 20% of the cars sounds odd, although I understand why PD has done it that way.

But hey, that's just me. It was stupid to claim none of us are impressed, that I regret.

How is the damage a joke?

I really don't understand how its a joke, so far everything we have seen so far has really impressed me as im sure it has others.

Pierced Lead · Aug 20, 2009

I really don't understand how its a joke, so far everything we have seen so far has really impressed me as im sure it has others.

The visual damage in the demo wasn't very good, I mean it certainly looked like pre-rendered pre-programmed damage and it was basically just bumpers falling off. That's why most people (and me to some extent) aren't impressed (although I don't think its a joke, its PD's first time, and for a first try its actually a good one)

Strittan · Aug 20, 2009

TGM Tiddy
How is the damage a joke?

I really don't understand how its a joke, so far everything we have seen so far has really impressed me as im sure it has others.

Little to none deformation, parts are just coming off. No sign of puncture, no sign of broken windshield/windows, no sign of broken head/rear lights. So far it's a joke IMO, but I think we haven't seen the full damage model yet. 👍

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