[Gauging Interest]: Integra RM Series

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After posting in the IS-F series thread about it, I'd like to know other people's opinion on having a series using the Honda Integra Type R RM. Trying it out on different tracks, it seems like a really fun car to drive, and could make for an awesome race series.

If this series does happen, it probably wont be until after the Spec Miata series, which in turn wont start until the IS-F series is over, so there's plenty of time to figure out Specs and tracks, and all that jazz.

Here's some basic stuff I was thinking of:

I have my car tuned to where, at 0.0 miles, had 299 hp (it has 304 right now) at 139.5 miles, it has 292 hp. I gave it:

ECU Tuning
Racing Headers
Sports Catalytic Converter
Racing Air Filter
Sports Intake Manifold
Stage 1 turbo (low-RPM)
Chassis reinforcement
Adjustable LSD

So it would provide a happy medium between the Miatas and IS-F's, in terms of speed.

Some ideas for tracks I had where High Speed Ring, Daytona Road course, Suzuka, Le Sarthe, and possibly Laguna Seca or a Nurbugring course.

So yeah. Any thoughts you might have would be helpful.
 
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Already said I'd be interested but thought I would say it in here too :)

As always I'd love to see tsukuba.
Another thought: perhaps we could use a created track? You could share the track at the beginning of the week (for the entire week) so everyone could practice on it and then we could run quali and race as per usual?
 
I am interested as well, but I would rather run the cars w/o a turbo (as Honda intended). I would prefer to run only the modifications that are included when the Integra is RMed with the only exceptions being Chassis Reinforcement, an Adjustable LSD, and Racing Hard tires (but would prefer to run with Sport Soft tires).
 
notmychoice
Already said I'd be interested but thought I would say it in here too :)

As always I'd love to see tsukuba.
Another thought: perhaps we could use a created track? You could share the track at the beginning of the week (for the entire week) so everyone could practice on it and then we could run quali and race as per usual?
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I could try that, perhaps. Though the only decent track I've seen to have made came before 1.06, so I can't use it online :/

BrosifDuder
I am interested as well, but I would rather run the cars w/o a turbo (as Honda intended). I would prefer to run only the modifications that are included when the Integra is RMed with the only exceptions being Chassis Reinforcement, an Adjustable LSD, and Racing Hard tires (but would prefer to run with Sport Soft tires).
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Specs are totally not set in stone. I was just saying what I did to mine as an example.

BlacqueJacques
We used the car at the Concours Club; lots of fun on any track:tup:
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Always good to hear.
 
Sign-up's wont be open until Specs/Tracks are confirmed, Jav.

Sorry man.
 
Hmm you can't go back and share that track? Owell.

I agree with no turbo's btw. Let that vtec take care of ya.
 
Well, let me run around quickly with the tarbo off, and see what I think.

Though going into this, I did think that 300 hp would be a good amount :/

EDIT: oh hell, without it it's only 292 anyway. Silly me.
 
Depending on the time line, I'd be interested. What's the max HP without any of the turbo kits? 292? I know I have one broken in and maxed out at 398 and it's definitely too much power for FF.

Also... Deep Forest is a great track for this car.
 
It's at 292 with 139.5 miles on it. No idea when it'll fully break in, so it could really be anywhere from 295 to 305+

Car handles it very well, too. But then again, I am on racing softs, which may or may not change.
 
MÜLE_9242;5008868
It's at 292 with 139.5 miles on it. No idea when it'll fully break in, so it could really be anywhere from 295 to 305+

Car handles it very well, too. But then again, I am on racing softs, which may or may not change.
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Everything handles great on Racing Softs. You can't get a good feel for the true nature of the car with tires that sticky.

Straight out of GT Auto a brand new Integra Type R RM has 238hp. With break-in you might see 250hp, which in my opinion is perfect for FF. Anything more and driving the car isn't enjoyable for me, it becomes too much like work.
 
Well, right now I'm playing around with different hp settings. On racing hards now, to get a better feel for it.

Something that just came to me, was using both racing softs and hards, and doing it how they do it in F1, where you have to use both compounds during the race. Seems like an interesting idea.
 
I'd be interested, depending on what day/time you guys decide on.

Looking for a second organized series besides my Le Mans prototype racing, and it would be great fun to throw a RM Integra around. 👍
 
MÜLE_9242;5009098
Well, right now I'm playing around with different hp settings. On racing hards now, to get a better feel for it.

Something that just came to me, was using both racing softs and hards, and doing it how they do it in F1, where you have to use both compounds during the race. Seems like an interesting idea.
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Don't think that will work, unless you make the races long enough to wear out the softs. Otherwise everyone will just run all race with the softs, and switch to the hards for one lap.

I'm interested in the series though. The Integra RM is a great little car.
 
Captain Slow
Don't think that will work, unless you make the races long enough to wear out the softs. Otherwise everyone will just run all race with the softs, and switch to the hards for one lap.

I'm interested in the series though. The Integra RM is a great little car.
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Well, for the IS-F series, the races all last a bit less than an hour, at 25 laps each (or 30, in the case of Laguna Seca), and we've all had to pit about half way through, on Racing Hard.

If we make the races an hour, to 90 minutes long, that should be plenty of time for at least 2 pit stops a race. If need be, we can always make a rule that says "you must pit by lap X"

The main problem I see with it, though, is enforcing the rule, as other that looking at the main room page, there's no way to tell what tires people are on, unless I'm blind.

Regardless, doing some running around on the Hards, I'm really having no problem with the 292 (294 now) package. A bit of understeer here and there, but nothing that compares to the IS-F's. So I think I'll go with that unless a bunch of people lobby otherwise.
 
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Sounds like a cool idea to me. I've been wanting to try out all the different RM's anyway. Not sure how keen I am on racing High Speed Ring with an Integra RM, but the others look alright to me. I'd definitely be down for running an Integra RM on Nurburgring GP/F, and I'd also suggest tracks like Deep Forest (I think someone else suggested it), Fuji Speedway/F and Tokyo.
 
Here is a list of tracks I think you should use for the Honda Integra RM race series.

Tokyo R246 / Reverse
Home town opener.

Nürburgring Nordschleife (Time Change)
Gotta have night time racing!

Special Stage Route 5 / Night
GranTurismo's most famous original track.

Circuito de Madrid
A pretty fun course to drive, I would like to see more of this course so thats why I think we should race on here as well.

Autodromo Nazionale Monza (Weather)
Never seen weather in a race series yet, this should change things up. (qualifying should be locked on sunny to make it fair)

Tsukuba Circuit
Small track that every FF race series should have.

A good mix of road tracks vs. city tracks. Should make the series interesting because in 3 out of the 6 tracks, it's anybodies race because it's not how well your car preforms but how well you can keep the car under control in those conditions.

Ex.#1 Nordschleife, Very long course where many mistakes can happen, especially at night with no racing line to guide you. You will need to properly tune the car for all the winding corners but races can be lost at the long straight if the gear ratios are too low.

Ex.#2 Monza, With the weather you will need to quickly change your driving style to stay in the race and keep your position.

Ex.#3 Tsukuba, A very small track where there will be a lot of lapping going on so it'll be tough to figure out who you will need to overtake to gain a position as well as the fact that the drivers in front will be slowed down many times by slower drivers throughout the race making the battle for first even harder.
 
Just bought the Integra from the dealership, applied RM and tried it on Grand Valley, the thing feels very nice even in stock form, definitely interested in this series.

What was that practice time u did before we started the IS F race Mule?
 
BrosifDuder
I am interested as well, but I would rather run the cars w/o a turbo (as Honda intended). I would prefer to run only the modifications that are included when the Integra is RMed with the only exceptions being Chassis Reinforcement, an Adjustable LSD, and Racing Hard tires (but would prefer to run with Sport Soft tires).
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I agree with this, and could certanly be interested too. Racing softs removes any kind of feeling with the car.
 
I have a couple of suggestions.

Pick the car, hp, weight and tires and let everyone modify the car however they see fit. No need to police anyone or keep anyone on their honour as far as mods go. Simple and everyone can understand it.

I'm not sure what tire wear is like on these cars, but maybe someone should run an endurance test to figure out how far they can go on fuel and soft tires. If it turns out to be say 20 minutes and the races are 45 minutes long, allow any tires and let the drivers choose whether they use soft and pit, or try to get through the whole race with hard tires or some other combination. I think mandatory pit stops suck personally as well as tire restrictions IMHO...lol.
 
Johnnypenso
I have a couple of suggestions.

Pick the car, hp, weight and tires and let everyone modify the car however they see fit. No need to police anyone or keep anyone on their honour as far as mods go. Simple and everyone can understand it.

I'm not sure what tire wear is like on these cars, but maybe someone should run an endurance test to figure out how far they can go on fuel and soft tires. If it turns out to be say 20 minutes and the races are 45 minutes long, allow any tires and let the drivers choose whether they use soft and pit, or try to get through the whole race with hard tires or some other combination. I think mandatory pit stops suck personally as well as tire restrictions IMHO...lol.
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We want to keep the cars as even as possible so that all race results are based off driver skill level rather then car performance. Mandatory pit stops make the race a bit more interesting so you will need to have a pit strategy like any real race, as well as the fact that tires do wear out pretty fast so no matter what, in a 1 hour race you will need to pit at least once.
 
Id be interested if you enforced Sport Soft tires or less. I forgot just how much fun this car was to drive until recently.
 
BrosifDuder
Didn't you register for the IS-F RM series also? Funny how you haven't shown up for a race yet. 👎
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This was just from the first page of recent posts... I didn't bother to go any further. Seems like he's really busy with other series. :lol:

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Right now I'm really leaning towards Racing Hards, or maybe even Mediums, provided we just stick to using one compound a race. It is technically a race car, and I'm a race car = race tires guy. If we were running non RM cars, then Sports Tires would already have been a lock.

As for tracks, I want a good combination of big tracks, small tracks, fast tracks and technical tracks. Since I'm thinking of a 5 or 6 race season, and looking at what you guys are saying, this is what I propose:

Daytona Road Course

Tsukuba, as you guys seem to like it.

Le Sarthe, time progression set so it turns to night, then back into day. Keep it sunny throughout.

Suzuka, starting in the dry, but turning wet.

Deep Forest

Then maybe either Laguna Seca, Indy Road course, Nurburgring GP/24h, or a street circuit, as much as what I don't like those.
 

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