BTCC Online Championship Season 3 Testing

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Tyre Wear or No Tyre Wear? that is the question

  • No pit stop & No tyre Wear

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • Pit stop & Tyre wear

    Votes: 13 72.2%
  • Total voters
    18
Geeky30

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Times need to be collected for these cars, This will decide the cars used for next season.

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02
Audi S3 '02
Audi S4 '03
BMW 330i '05
Ford Focus ST '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Mazda Atenza Sport 25Z '07
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
Renault Clio Renault Sport '02
Seat Ibiza Cupra '04
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
VW Golf V GTI '05



Tracks to be tested on:
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Test Races:
Test races can be planned to try it all out :)👍

Deep Forest - Test Race (10 Laps - No Pit Stops)
1 rolo912011 Ford Focus ST '06
2 TheBosZ1981 Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04 12.985
3 JulleGaard Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01 26.542
4 rallymorten Honda Accord Euro-R '02 26.680
5 karsten_beoulve Honda Accord Euro-R '00 28.716



Test Session:
Free runs can be organised as well :)👍
 
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Reserved for times set for each car


Renault Clio Renault Sport '02 - 1:22.993 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 477 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02 - 1:23.526 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06 - 1:24.201 (302 BHP, 1200 KG, 463 PP)
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - 1:24.251 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 472 PP)
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - 1:24:494 (305 BHP, 1228 KG, 474 PP)
Lexus IS200 '98 - 1:24.572 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 455 PP)


Autumn Ring
best of 4 laps
very basic setup

Honda Integra 1.25.221
Honda Civic 1.25.597
Ford Focus 1.25.833
Volkswagen Golf 1.26.448
Peugeot 406 1.27.059
Alfa Romeo 147 TS 1.27.321


Deep Forest times:

Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04 - 1:22.038 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Ford Focus ST '06 - 1:22.338 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 484 PP)
Honda Civic Type R '08 - 1:22.398 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 470 PP)
BMW 120d '04 - 1:22.542 (302 BHP, 1400 KG, 478 PP)
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01 - 1:22.692 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 466 PP)
Renault Clio Renault Sport '02 - 1:22.844 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 478 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02 - 1:23.387 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
VW Golf V GTI '05 - 1:23.543 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 475 PP)
Audi S4 '98 - 1:23.898 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 466 PP)
Lexus IS200 '98 - 1:23.997 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 455 PP)
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - 1:24:148 (305 BHP, 1228 KG, 474 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06 - 1:24.201 (302 BHP, 1200 KG, 463 PP)
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - 1:24.251 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 472 PP)


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Updated overall/average picture:

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Code: 
[SIZE="3"][B]Cape Ring Inside (5 Laps)[/B]

1. Ford Focus          - 55.993
2. Mazda Atenza        - 56.046
3. BMW 330i            - 56.074
4. Renault Clio        - 56.113
5. Honda Civic Type R  - 56.197
6. Audi S4             - 56.209
7. Seat Ibiza          - 56.213
8. VW Golf             - 56.342
9. Audi S3             - 56.519
10. Volvo S60          - 56.545
11. Alfa 147 GTA       - 56.549
12. Nissan Primera     - 57.286
13. Opel Vectra        - 57.316[/SIZE]

Nissan was again horrible to drive around here... Cape Ring Inside means a lot of understeer.

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Updated average times:

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Seat

1 14 965
1 14 095
1 13 934

Mazda

1 13 371
1 13 761
1 14 605

Golf

1 13 296
1 13 150
1 13 031
 
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Hey, just to revise the car list for the OP, it's now this:


Renault Clio Renault Sport '02
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
Lexus IS200 '98
Audi S3 '02
BMW 330i '05
Ford Focus ST '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Peugeot 307 XSi ’04
VW Golf V GTI '05
Honda Accord Euro-R '02
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Peugeot coupé 406 3.0 V6 ’98
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
BMW 120d '04

:)
 
rolo912011
Hey, just to revise the car list for the OP, it's now this:


Renault Clio Renault Sport '02
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
Lexus IS200 '98
Audi S3 '02
BMW 330i '05
Ford Focus ST '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Peugeot 307 XSi ’04
VW Golf V GTI '05
Honda Accord Euro-R '02
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Peugeot coupé 406 3.0 V6 ’98
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
BMW 120d '04

:)
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Thankyou for confirming that with me :D
 
Current list of my times:

Renault Clio Renault Sport '02 - 1:22.993 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 477 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02 - 1:23.526 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06 - 1:24.201 (302 BHP, 1200 KG, 463 PP)
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - 1:24.251 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 472 PP)
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - 1:24:494 (305 BHP, 1228 KG, 474 PP)
Lexus IS200 '98 - 1:24.572 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 455 PP)
 
Also, there is a test race running tomorrow night at Deep Forest Raceway after the conclusion of the meet.

If you wish to race, please nominate a car from the list and tune it to the regulations. Do any more further set-up work if you wish - ultimate possible pace please!

There needs to be at least one S2 Audi, BMW and Ford/Honda in the race to allow for comparisons, since they're the standard I suppose we're testing against.

Current Nominated Cars:
JulleGaard - Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01/Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98
rolo912011 - Ford Focus ST '06
 
I think the best possible way that this will work is if one person tests every car on 1 or 2 tracks, with a stock setup, for the same number of laps (say 5)

Rinse and repeat until a few people have done it, then add the times up :)

I think that's what we're doing already, from what I gather

I'll be doing this on a different track, if that's OK
 
In 2nd post you should specify on which track the lap times were set.
Also car nominations in OP 👍
 
RobFocus
I think the best possible way that this will work is if one person tests every car on 1 or 2 tracks, with a stock setup, for the same number of laps (say 5)

Rinse and repeat until a few people have done it, then add the times up :)

I think that's what we're doing already, from what I gather

I'll be doing this on a different track, if that's OK
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I'm running all the cars at Deep Forest. 5 clean laps per car, with cars set up to the regs (but with Tyre/Fuel off).

The test races are designed really to assess how the cars will fare in actual races - it wouldn't be great to have a rapid car over one lap that wore it's tyres out ridiculously! :)
 
JulleGaard90
Lap times from the races should also be saved, so the race pace of each car can be assessed.
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I guess in the test races if everyone takes note of their own car, it shares the workload :) I can post up the race results, and perhaps spreadsheet them.

Also, I know it's not on the list but I did test the Toyota Corolla RUNX Z Aerotourer '02 at Deep Forest, but it did a 1:26.509 and couldn't reach the bhp limit when fully tuned... would be too slow to include, I feel. Don't think any other Toyotas really count as modern BTCC cars.
 
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rolo912011
I guess in the test races if everyone takes note of their own car, it shares the workload :) I can post up the race results, and perhaps spreadsheet them.

Also, I know it's not on the list but I did test the Toyota Corolla RUNX Z Aerotourer '02 at Deep Forest, but it did a 1:26.509 and couldn't reach the bhp limit when fully tuned... would be too slow to include, I feel.
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Yes that would be great if everyone could do that 👍

Let's leave the Toyota :)
 
karsten's requested that we put the Honda Accord Euro-R '00 in place of the Honda Accord Euro-R '02 model.. I'm good with that.

It would be good if the OP car list could be updated :)
 
rolo912011
karsten's requested that we put the Honda Accord Euro-R '00 in place of the Honda Accord Euro-R '02 model.. I'm good with that.
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Yeah, more accurate seeing as the newer-gen Accord never raced in the BTCC

Anyway, my results...

Autumn Ring
best of 4 laps
very basic setup

135i 1.24.307
330i 1.25.142
Integra 1.25.221
Civic 1.25.597
Focus 1.25.833
147 GTA 1.26.108
Golf 1.26.448
406 1.27.059
147 TS 1.27.321
307 1.27.710 (doesn't meet the power limit)

updated 13-8-12
updated2 16-8-12
 
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How about the new Mazda 6 as the toyota avensis in the 2012 season of BTCC? They are both Japanese and both sedans.
It's even a premium!
 
I'm gonna have to miss all tomorrow's racing. Do you want to take over the running of the test race Julle (if it happens). If it does happen then let us know the findings :)

I personally wouldn't have the Mazda, and personally I'd have the '01 Primera over the '90. But I dunno, if both prove competitive... a '90 car being as quick as the modern ones would shock me though!
 
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rolo912011
I'm gonna have to miss all tomorrow's racing. Do you want to take over the running of the test race Julle (if it happens). If it does happen then let us know the findings :)
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I'll do that :)
See you next Friday 👍
 
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As mentioned before there will be a test-race shortly after the two main races tonight (if necessary we can do two test-races).
The race will consist of current season 2 cars and suggestions for possible season 3 cars. The test will show if the season 2 rules for fwd, rwd and 4wd cars have given cars that before were out of pace a new chance to shine :)

The race will be of same length as the normal races (20 min) so that the tire deterioration can be assessed as well.

After the race, lap-times and race results will be noted and put into this thread, letting us remove cars which are horribly out of pace.

And as rolo said before, please nominate either a season 2 or season 3 car for the test-race that you wish to participate in.

Please note bhp, weight and pp for the season 3 car you wish to use 👍

See you tonight! :)
 
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Test race canceled due to Season 2 race being delayed.

Also Do we want a Season 3 drivers list?
 
Geeky30
Also Do we want a Season 3 drivers list?
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I was imagining that in the test races, people would be free to drive what they wanted, so long as there's the S2 cars present and a decent spread of potential additions :)

Perhaps we could recruit drivers if there's issues with our S2 drivers being able to attend.
 
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rolo912011
I was imagining that in the test races, people would be free to drive what they wanted, so long as there's the S2 cars present and a decent spread of potential additions :)

Perhaps we could recruit drivers if there's issues with our S2 drivers being able to attend.
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Good Idea, it may also gain interest or support :sly:👍
 
Updated times:

Deep Forest Raceway (5 Laps)

Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04 - 1:22.038 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Ford Focus ST '06 - 1:22.338 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 484 PP)
BMW 120d '04 - 1:22.542 (302 BHP, 1400 KG, 478 PP)
Renault Clio Renault Sport '02 - 1:22.993 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 477 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02 - 1:23.387 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 474 PP)
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - 1:24:148 (305 BHP, 1228 KG, 474 PP)
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06 - 1:24.201 (302 BHP, 1200 KG, 463 PP)
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - 1:24.251 (305 BHP, 1200 KG, 472 PP)
Lexus IS200 '98 - 1:24.572 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 455 PP)
Audi S4 '98 - 1:24.678 (305 BHP, 1400 KG, 464 PP)

As you can see, I added the Audi S4 '98 to the list because I think it's more similar to the current A4 than the S3, but as you can see, it's pretty slow!

10 cars left to test for me:

Audi S3 '02
BMW 135i Coupe '07
BMW 330i '05
Honda Civic Type R '08
Peugeot 307 XSi ’04
VW Golf V GTI '05
Honda Accord Euro-R '00
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) ’01
Peugeot coupé 406 3.0 V6 ’98
Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03

Unsure about my availability for a Monza test race this Friday, will have to let people know nearer the time.
 
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