¤XFEL Cat & Mouse. LOOKING FOR PARTICIPANTS! Week 3 this fridayOpen 

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ERAUfan97
But I won't know who will participate until everyone is in the room. Either way, people will have to paint there cars
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well you could create a sign up sheet through messaging I probably won't be there this week due to playoffs but I might
 
So are we going to have a standard set of 4 colors? Because I can get some Ka's now and already have them ready to go?
 
MOPARbarrett5
I think Cat and Mouse has too many variables to run smoothly.
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To be honest, I think it ran well, considering it was the first night out and everyone was new to the process. I thought you guys handled everything well and very maturely, even in the face of me breaking the rules on the last mouse. And trust me, I don't give out that compliment lightly. I have a different level of respect for you guys under those circumstances, well done! 👍

Even JK, who's impatience was very obvious, handled things the best he could and very, very well. Wish he had been able to stick around to the end. Wish dread had been there. I think he would have enjoyed the crap out of himself, as I did. mint would too, but his school has him as bogged down as Rome over at ALV. Hopefullly, maybe I can help mint get caught up over Thanksgiving when we all should have a little extra time. Barring the very stressful family events we have to deal with. Some cat & mouse will be very helpful then.

Again, sorry about that terrible rule violation:grumpy:, but that was a learning experience that tells me that we have to make sure that we stress that rule. Even if there is a way we can fit it into the room title or something, because I can assure you, that I won't be the last one to forget or break that rule. Or I guess we could just randomly type that in between races as a reminder. Obviously, I should do that.:(

Otherwise, I think it went great, and would have been even better if Sony's servers had been able to keep up with the extra Friday night load that was presented. I know it doesn't mean a whole lot, but I am proud of you guys, that was great.
 
r34love
To be honest, I think it ran well, considering it was the first night out and everyone was new to the process. I thought you guys handled everything well and very maturely, even in the face of me breaking the rules on the last mouse. And trust me, I don't give out that compliment lightly. I have a different level of respect for you guys under those circumstances, well done! 👍

Even JK, who's impatience was very obvious, handled things the best he could and very, very well. Wish he had been able to stick around to the end. Wish dread had been there. I think he would have enjoyed the crap out of himself, as I did. mint would too, but his school has him as bogged down as Rome over at ALV. Hopefullly, maybe I can help mint get caught up over Thanksgiving when we all should have a little extra time. Barring the very stressful family events we have to deal with. Some cat & mouse will be very helpful then.

Again, sorry about that terrible rule violation:grumpy:, but that was a learning experience that tells me that we have to make sure that we stress that rule. Even if there is a way we can fit it into the room title or something, because I can assure you, that I won't be the last one to forget or break that rule. Or I guess we could just randomly type that in between races as a reminder. Obviously, I should do that.:(

Otherwise, I think it went great, and would have been even better if Sony's servers had been able to keep up with the extra Friday night load that was presented. I know it doesn't mean a whole lot, but I am proud of you guys, that was great.
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That was pretty fun and it was a trial so some rules were expected to be broken. No harm. Hopefully next week will go more smoothly
 
Okay, now for my ideas. First off, I think that we should focus on longer, high speed tracks, like kz mentioned Daytona, and I agree with that. Also, Route X, Route 7, High Speed Ring, Monza, blah, blah, blah... You know why?

1). Too many small tracks can be very frustrating. Big tracks are not boring if there are enough people.

2). It gives people a chance to stretch out a little, and easier for noobs, and level 2 people to run. They want to break out their big HP and juice it! :P

3). (The most important). Did you notice how quickly the lobby filled up when we went to X? It's like that everywhere I go. Dirty, clean, games, drag, everybody wants those tracks. Including myself to be honest. You go into X with 5 people and when you come out, your lobby is full. If you want people to join up, you have to respect what the people want. Just like any business. Route X is boring if you are just racing with 3 or 5 people, but when you have 4 full teams in the room, it's going to be a beautiful thing. And people will keep coming back for it. That and Nur24 were my favorite two of the night, and also the closest races. Didn't barrett and ER finish within a second of each other on both of those? I think that alone is worth taking a closer look at. Sadly, I didn't save those replays.

That's not to say that we shouldn't use the small tracks, because they break up that monotony and test everyone's skills. I learned a lot about that X-Runner last night at the Arena. It wasn't helpful to ER, but I know enough to want to build on it. I think everybody can benefit from that. It should be called the 2-Runner though. Very misleading!

I can respect WTF suggesting the use of 4WD, but I also think it's good for people to experiment. I've been driving a lot of FR cars with no aids lately, and it is improving my driving under all conditions. My point here is that, as we get new people in, if we help them grow, they will respect us and stick around. Why do think I keep coming back even though Team MOPAR dominates and has more 2Js than the game calls for?! :sly:

Finally, the point to all of that is building regulars and maintaining their loyalty will keep them coming back, bring new people in, and prevent the issues of not having enough people, and barrett's concern about things going smoothly.

Thanks for listening, and thanks kz for bring that up last night. I might have to paint a few more of my cars pink! :cheers:

Go Team Teco!!!!
 
r34love
Okay, now for my ideas. First off, I think that we should focus on longer, high speed tracks, like kz mentioned Daytona, and I agree with that. Also, Route X, Route 7, High Speed Ring, Monza, blah, blah, blah... You know why?

1). Too many small tracks can be very frustrating. Big tracks are not boring if there are enough people.

2). It gives people a chance to stretch out a little, and easier for noobs, and level 2 people to run. They want to break out their big HP and juice it! :P

3). (The most important). Did you notice how quickly the lobby filled up when we went to X? It's like that everywhere I go. Dirty, clean, games, drag, everybody wants those tracks. Including myself to be honest. You go into X with 5 people and when you come out, your lobby is full. If you want people to join up, you have to respect what the people want. Just like any business. Route X is boring if you are just racing with 3 or 5 people, but when you have 4 full teams in the room, it's going to be a beautiful thing. And people will keep coming back for it. That and Nur24 were my favorite two of the night, and also the closest races. Didn't barrett and ER finish within a second of each other on both of those? I think that alone is worth taking a closer look at. Sadly, I didn't save those replays.

That's not to say that we shouldn't use the small tracks, because they break up that monotony and test everyone's skills. I learned a lot about that X-Runner last night at the Arena. It wasn't helpful to ER, but I know enough to want to build on it. I think everybody can benefit from that. It should be called the 2-Runner though. Very misleading!

I can respect WTF suggesting the use of 4WD, but I also think it's good for people to experiment. I've been driving a lot of FR cars with no aids lately, and it is improving my driving under all conditions. My point here is that, as we get new people in, if we help them grow, they will respect us and stick around. Why do think I keep coming back even though Team MOPAR dominates and has more 2Js than the game calls for?! :sly:

Finally, the point to all of that is building regulars and maintaining their loyalty will keep them coming back, bring new people in, and prevent the issues of not having enough people, and barrett's concern about things going smoothly.

Thanks for listening, and thanks kz for bring that up last night. I might have to paint a few more of my cars pink! :cheers:

Go Team Teco!!!!
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Yes,I can agree with those two tracks being fun. An idea would be to always start the room on route x and always end it on nurb with voting in between
 
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r34love
Okay, now for my ideas. First off, I think that we should focus on longer, high speed tracks, like kz mentioned Daytona, and I agree with that. Also, Route X, Route 7, High Speed Ring, Monza, blah, blah, blah... You know why?

1). Too many small tracks can be very frustrating. Big tracks are not boring if there are enough people.

2). It gives people a chance to stretch out a little, and easier for noobs, and level 2 people to run. They want to break out their big HP and juice it! :P

3). (The most important). Did you notice how quickly the lobby filled up when we went to X? It's like that everywhere I go. Dirty, clean, games, drag, everybody wants those tracks. Including myself to be honest. You go into X with 5 people and when you come out, your lobby is full. If you want people to join up, you have to respect what the people want. Just like any business. Route X is boring if you are just racing with 3 or 5 people, but when you have 4 full teams in the room, it's going to be a beautiful thing. And people will keep coming back for it. That and Nur24 were my favorite two of the night, and also the closest races. Didn't barrett and ER finish within a second of each other on both of those? I think that alone is worth taking a closer look at. Sadly, I didn't save those replays.

That's not to say that we shouldn't use the small tracks, because they break up that monotony and test everyone's skills. I learned a lot about that X-Runner last night at the Arena. It wasn't helpful to ER, but I know enough to want to build on it. I think everybody can benefit from that. It should be called the 2-Runner though. Very misleading!

I can respect WTF suggesting the use of 4WD, but I also think it's good for people to experiment. I've been driving a lot of FR cars with no aids lately, and it is improving my driving under all conditions. My point here is that, as we get new people in, if we help them grow, they will respect us and stick around. Why do think I keep coming back even though Team MOPAR dominates and has more 2Js than the game calls for?! :sly:

Finally, the point to all of that is building regulars and maintaining their loyalty will keep them coming back, bring new people in, and prevent the issues of not having enough people, and barrett's concern about things going smoothly.

Thanks for listening, and thanks kz for bring that up last night. I might have to paint a few more of my cars pink! :cheers:

Go Team Teco!!!!
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It would probably be best to ask the members if they prefer big or small tracks. I'm fine with either but smaller tracks seem to keep the races more competitive.
 
MOPARbarrett5
It would probably be best to ask the members if they prefer big or small tracks. I'm fine with either but smaller tracks seem to keep the races more competitive.
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I would have to disagree with smaller tracks keeping it close because you won at most of them. But I won at nurb and was 2seconds behind you at route x
 
MOPARbarrett5
It would probably be best to ask the members if they prefer big or small tracks. I'm fine with either but smaller tracks seem to keep the races more competitive.
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Typical barrett answer. And that's my point. And I keep saying that if you want people to join, you have to give them a reason. You winning every race is not a good enough reason barrett. You know I love ya, but I'm just talking business here. We all want to win, some of us more than others, :bowdown: and I respect that, but everybody wants a chance, and when the see that they really don't, they're not going to stick around. The only real reason I do, is because I like you guys. Beyond that, I don't see winning anytime soon. But that's different. It's personal. Not everybody else on GT6/PSN sees it that way. I'm 48. Camaraderie and friendships are more important to me now. But even that doesn't mean I want to be last all the time. ;) 20 years ago, I would have either worked out the formula and would be woopin your butt every week, or I'd be gone. Like I was when those 2Js came out the other night. Or I would have broken out my ZZII and told you to kiss it until you kicked me from the room.

ER is right. You saw that I couldn't even break your lap at Autumn Ring, ZZII vs Ka? And I was driving that car barrett. I didn't make any mistakes that should have prevented my from beating that record. Not that I'm that bad. You guys are the only people on PSN who actually think that. Ask around. I'm good and well respected everywhere else I go. With the exception of Phatdundada (kz, lol), everybody will tell you that. And even HE sent me a Friend Request on Wednesday. So even he has some kind of respect for me.

What does this all mean barrett? What it means is that YOU are that good. And as any professional will tell you, when you are that good, things are going to be changed to level the playing field. Ask Sebastian Vettel, or the guy who built the 2J for that matter. You are an example of any team out there. When you are that good, the last thing you want is people running around changing things. That's our nature as humans. But if you want to be recognized as the true driver that you are, you might want to step up and be an advocate for changes, and show everyone that, no matter what is thrown your way, you will win anyway. Am I telling you stuff you already know?

I don't like to compare people because I don't like to be compared, but that is one thing that I have to give JK over you. He doesn't seem to care what changes are made. He just wants to throw the green and get to work. And he makes it work where he can. ER and kz, the same, and none of them ever indicates that giving someone else a greater chance is a bad thing. Hey... if it doesn't work, we can go the opposite way and do all short tracks right? And as I said before, I'm not saying we should get rid of them all together. Just less emphasis. GT Arena twice? London would have been better, and I think I saw you vote that one once last night. If I had seen it before, I would have voted with you on it. Short enough to demand some skill, but not so short as to be a clust-f if you know what I mean. If we continue to work the teams as we do, you will still stand as great a chance as you always do. cards is one heck of a blocker everywhere. He was the only person I hated to see in front of me all night!

kz, you were very competitive, but that Shelby is a bit light. It was too easy for me to nail you in that thing. Fast enough, but no match for my Avant. (What a effin beast that thing is!) A little friendly note for you bro.

But I'm done with that. And I will close that lecture by asking you how much fun can it be for you when it's not close b? Isn't it a bit like racing the computer sometimes? I think you will enjoy your victories more if you have to fight more for them, but that's just me.

The biggest point I'm trying to make is that we have to put out the Welcome mat and give people reasons to want to hang out with us. Otherwise, why are any of us doing any of this? That's the point I have been trying to make in the XFEL for so long now. It's fun enough. But if it is just set up for a few people to win all the time, nobody is going to stick around for that. Maybe in your minds it isn't set up that way, but looking in from the outside, the pattern has been set and anyone who races with us can see it after a very short time. I don't know about track voting. I prefer scheduling like the pros do. Random F1 and NASCAR? Can you imagine what a joke that would be?

Dale Jr. "I don't know what track we're runnin' this week, but I know we're gonna win it." A little food for thought. And I'm through. :boggled:
 
r34love
Typical barrett answer. And that's my point. And I keep saying that if you want people to join, you have to give them a reason. You winning every race is not a good enough reason barrett. You know I love ya, but I'm just talking business here. We all want to win, some of us more than others, :bowdown: and I respect that, but everybody wants a chance, and when the see that they really don't, they're not going to stick around. The only real reason I do, is because I like you guys. Beyond that, I don't see winning anytime soon. But that's different. It's personal. Not everybody else on GT6/PSN sees it that way. I'm 48. Camaraderie and friendships are more important to me now. But even that doesn't mean I want to be last all the time. ;) 20 years ago, I would have either worked out the formula and would be woopin your butt every week, or I'd be gone. Like I was when those 2Js came out the other night. Or I would have broken out my ZZII and told you to kiss it until you kicked me from the room.

ER is right. You saw that I couldn't even break your lap at Autumn Ring, ZZII vs Ka? And I was driving that car barrett. I didn't make any mistakes that should have prevented my from beating that record. Not that I'm that bad. You guys are the only people on PSN who actually think that. Ask around. I'm good and well respected everywhere else I go. With the exception of Phatdundada (kz, lol), everybody will tell you that. And even HE sent me a Friend Request on Wednesday. So even he has some kind of respect for me.

What does this all mean barrett? What it means is that YOU are that good. And as any professional will tell you, when you are that good, things are going to be changed to level the playing field. Ask Sebastian Vettel, or the guy who built the 2J for that matter. You are an example of any team out there. When you are that good, the last thing you want is people running around changing things. That's our nature as humans. But if you want to be recognized as the true driver that you are, you might want to step up and be an advocate for changes, and show everyone that, no matter what is thrown your way, you will win anyway. Am I telling you stuff you already know?

I don't like to compare people because I don't like to be compared, but that is one thing that I have to give JK over you. He doesn't seem to care what changes are made. He just wants to throw the green and get to work. And he makes it work where he can. ER and kz, the same, and none of them ever indicates that giving someone else a greater chance is a bad thing. Hey... if it doesn't work, we can go the opposite way and do all short tracks right? And as I said before, I'm not saying we should get rid of them all together. Just less emphasis. GT Arena twice? London would have been better, and I think I saw you vote that one once last night. If I had seen it before, I would have voted with you on it. Short enough to demand some skill, but not so short as to be a clust-f if you know what I mean. If we continue to work the teams as we do, you will still stand as great a chance as you always do. cards is one heck of a blocker everywhere. He was the only person I hated to see in front of me all night!

kz, you were very competitive, but that Shelby is a bit light. It was too easy for me to nail you in that thing. Fast enough, but no match for my Avant. (What a effin beast that thing is!) A little friendly note for you bro.

But I'm done with that. And I will close that lecture by asking you how much fun can it be for you when it's not close b? Isn't it a bit like racing the computer sometimes? I think you will enjoy your victories more if you have to fight more for them, but that's just me.

The biggest point I'm trying to make is that we have to put out the Welcome mat and give people reasons to want to hang out with us. Otherwise, why are any of us doing any of this? That's the point I have been trying to make in the XFEL for so long now. It's fun enough. But if it is just set up for a few people to win all the time, nobody is going to stick around for that. Maybe in your minds it isn't set up that way, but looking in from the outside, the pattern has been set and anyone who races with us can see it after a very short time. I don't know about track voting. I prefer scheduling like the pros do. Random F1 and NASCAR? Can you imagine what a joke that would be?

Dale Jr. "I don't know what track we're runnin' this week, but I know we're gonna win it." A little food for thought. And I'm through. :boggled:
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I never said anything about me winning in that quote. Also, we ddon't think that you are a bad driver. I don't ever recall anyone saying that either.
 
r34love
Okay, now for my ideas. First off, I think that we should focus on longer, high speed tracks, like kz mentioned Daytona, and I agree with that. Also, Route X, Route 7, High Speed Ring, Monza, blah, blah, blah... You know why?

1). Too many small tracks can be very frustrating. Big tracks are not boring if there are enough people.

2). It gives people a chance to stretch out a little, and easier for noobs, and level 2 people to run. They want to break out their big HP and juice it! :P

3). (The most important). Did you notice how quickly the lobby filled up when we went to X? It's like that everywhere I go. Dirty, clean, games, drag, everybody wants those tracks. Including myself to be honest. You go into X with 5 people and when you come out, your lobby is full. If you want people to join up, you have to respect what the people want. Just like any business. Route X is boring if you are just racing with 3 or 5 people, but when you have 4 full teams in the room, it's going to be a beautiful thing. And people will keep coming back for it. That and Nur24 were my favorite two of the night, and also the closest races. Didn't barrett and ER finish within a second of each other on both of those? I think that alone is worth taking a closer look at. Sadly, I didn't save those replays.

That's not to say that we shouldn't use the small tracks, because they break up that monotony and test everyone's skills. I learned a lot about that X-Runner last night at the Arena. It wasn't helpful to ER, but I know enough to want to build on it. I think everybody can benefit from that. It should be called the 2-Runner though. Very misleading!

I can respect WTF suggesting the use of 4WD, but I also think it's good for people to experiment. I've been driving a lot of FR cars with no aids lately, and it is improving my driving under all conditions. My point here is that, as we get new people in, if we help them grow, they will respect us and stick around. Why do think I keep coming back even though Team MOPAR dominates and has more 2Js than the game calls for?! :sly:

Finally, the point to all of that is building regulars and maintaining their loyalty will keep them coming back, bring new people in, and prevent the issues of not having enough people, and barrett's concern about things going smoothly.

Thanks for listening, and thanks kz for bring that up last night. I might have to paint a few more of my cars pink! :cheers:

Go Team Teco!!!!
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I wouldn't say route x big but Monza spa or something open personally I like Daytona roadcourse
 

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