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The Turtle Racing League has always followed the OnLine Racing Rules (OLR). If you have not, please read them.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtplanet-online-racing-olr-rules-guidelines.111241/

We have always taken a dim view of abusing track boundaries. I mention it before the races I host. Yes it will occasionally happen, but not doing it on the majority of laps. If you are, slow down or change your line. As Phish said, leaving the track, you give up the right of way, same as re-entering after a crash. Unfortunately GT has always been inconsistent with penalties, sometimes too much (Spa), sometimes too little (Silverstone).

Maybe we should test the penalties set to high.

Routinely abusing track boundaries is cheating. Ask yourself, If you have to cheat to win, are you really winning?
 
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Pit Meeting

Special Class Race: Silverstone Grand Prix
Time / Time Progression: 13:00 / 6
Car: Toyota 86 Race Car Base Model '12
Tires: Sport Mediums
Laps: 40
Date: January 25, 2014



Policies
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The First Turn Rule - It is the policy of this league for you to hold your position in turn 1 and not try to improve it unless the following situations occur: 1) The driver directly in front of you is asleep on the start. 2) The driver directly in front of you runs off course with at least 2 wheels off the track. 3) Obvious race incidents that must be avoided. 4) If you are able to fully draft past someone without incident or disruption to the other driver(s) with a reasonable distance before approaching the first turn.

Holding your position in the first turn is limited to the first turn on the first lap. This rule is in place for 2 reason: (1) to effectively avoid incidents in the first turn, and (2) so that drivers who are being careful and doing their part to avoid incidents in the 1st turn of are not taken advantage of. There is no sense in causing an incident in the congestion of the first turn. You can not win the race on the 1st turn or even the 1st lap. If a complaint is filed, the decision we make will be one that promotes an incident free first turn.

Dive Bombing​

Dive bombing is unacceptable, and only results in incidents. It is not the same as passing under braking. Dive-bombing is when a trailing car intentionally brakes late to dive underneath the car in front of them as they are turning into a corner. The trailing driver must move to the low groove for at least 3-4 seconds prior to corner entry so that the leading driver can see the trailing drivers intentions in his mirror. However, running the low groove is not a guarantee that he will allow you to pass, it is only an indication that you wish to pass on the low side. The trailing driver must also have gained at least a half a car length lead before braking begins so the leading driver can see his position and avoid contact.

Mics During Racing​

From the beginning of the race, until the last driver crosses the finish line, your mic should be on mute. This allows all racers to concentrate on their driving to the fullest. You may unmute to tell a driver your track position if racing in close proximity. If a racer is on mic by mistake, please feel free to say "Mic Check" to remind all racers to check.


Race Incidents​

Legitimate complaints are encouraged, they insure a better racing environment for everyone. Complaints should be addressed by "Private Message" to the race steward of the race in which the incident occurred. It is a matter to respect every Turtle on the track, as we are competing against each other on the track, we all must remain clean at all times. If you know you made a mistake on the track by pushing a turtle off track, please let them gain their position back. We are Turtle Racing League, and we want to be remembered as a respectful clean racer towards any racer out there. Please include race number, lap number, and time of incident. A ruling will be announced after a video review by an independent steward. All racing incidents or racing related issues shall be dealt with privately and under no circumstance mentioned publicly.


Please Be Aware Of Track Boundary's, Especially Copse


Turtle Racing League - Enduro Racing Series - Track Boundary Official Ruling


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I think the main area some Turtles are going Off Track is Copse. Copse is the Fast right hander after the brooklands and the Luffield. The Main Ruling On This is 2 Tires Must be ON TRACK at ALL TIMES. The Curbs of the Copse and Out of Copse is ON TRACK. However when all Tires Go Off Track, Since the Penalty System in GT6 simply Sucks! You must be very careful going back on Track.

For Example!

Lets say I go completely off track, and a Car is right behind me, the Car behind me has the Right of way to keep his line, he does Not have to Move over to let you back on. Saying that, you must let the Driver By You, then when clear, approach back on to Track. Again Ill say it if you are still confused, I go off the track and a driver is behind me and stays on his line by the curb, he does NOT have to move over to let you back on, you must be aware where each racer is before going back on track even if it means to let off the gas or brake before going on track.

I know it sucks to fall back, but that is the Penalty, and If I do get any complaints of someone crashing or hitting anybody going back on track, your points WILL be disqualified for the week and other information on your penalty will be notified in a private Message.

Thank-you all for asking about the track Boundary, especially to @scarecrow937 and @ANFD

@BustedFoSho and @Spliffy - Make Sure to Go over The Rule Before Starting The Race

If you have any Future Track Boundary Questions, Please Post in the Thread for an Official Ruling!

GoodLuck At Silverstone Grand Prix Turtles!


Silverstone Corner Names

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Other Information

--Races Start at 10:05pm Eastern / 9:05pm Central / 7:05pm Pacific AT LATEST--The Only way to start late is if there is a driver on his way back into the room after being disconnected in the room or On his way as he would say hes on a tight schedule.
--All Divisional Rooms will be up 1 hour prior to race time, so there is plenty of time to join the room, Look for your divisional Room Number on the thread when Joining.
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Turtle Racing League - Enduro Racing Series - Notification That It's Race Day

Division 1

@Ph1sher
@Masterhec
@micantony
@TX Executioner
@turnupdaheat
@andp132
@Dolph Drago
@BionicDerp
@GT_Racer22 (Said He can't Make It this week)
@RacingOtaku86
@Garagefather
@LeoStrop
@monkeyboy4q
@Corsa911
@SpeedyMcQueen
@lightningd (On Vacation)
@knukken
@K1utch
@NCRthree
@Heathenpride


Division 2

@Psycho Tuber
@perdy450
@Ridgeline
@3forSpeed
@ANFD
@Spliffy
@Latenight Rider
@johnsom
@moeom
@G_Parrilla
@nascarfan14
@TheBlack7
@scarecrow937
@SilverFire
@Sinner6
@LeadFootLiam
@Kalem (Said Hes Not able to make it this week)
@MajikTom
@the350zkiller
@deadbob777
@Djwess
@Severn
@Biller
@VrooM VrooM
@LJC2001
@amdlll
@M Muggins


Division 3 + Division A

@DB
@KTR5
@BustedFoSho
@terk_logan
@iboostdaily
@Devolution
@Delta82
@gears_1000
@flesxruoyxllik
@d_wagon_man
@tzracer
@Jimbo-50
@shredTec
@Socket68 (I believe he said he cant make it this week)
@MBOBB1969
@JTravis704
@James Hnter
@Corkini
@Whitlock9mm
@euclid58
@speer9892003
@guster11
@Whodoyouthink
@ebEliminator
@pimento88
@Sharkb8ii
@iceandspice
@Daniel Pinho
@Fastbowler55
@jay*doc


Thank You All! If you have Not Read the Pit Meeting Post above, Please do to be aware of Track Boundary's.​
 
Was wondering if I can join the race tonight. Not sure I can even make it yet, but would love to come out and play. It's fine if it's to much trouble Ph1sher, I can race another night.

Had a blast last night in the practice room:cheers:
 
Scca Norm
Was wondering if I can join the race tonight. Not sure I can even make it yet, but would love to come out and play. It's fine if it's to much trouble Ph1sher, I can race another night.

Had a blast last night in the practice room:cheers:
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Heyy! Yes you are more than welcome to join us just let me know a color combo and a number you want to run with and ill add you to division 2 and your set to join us tonight!

Thanks @Scca Norm
 
Question about the track boundary rules... lets say I am having an intense battle with someone behind me and I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? Sometimes races do get intense, hands get sweaty and we make a mistake. Just wanting an official word on what is supposed to happen
 
ItsAllAboutWins
Question about the track boundary rules... lets say I am having an intense battle with someone behind me and I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? Sometimes races do get intense, hands get sweaty and we make a mistake. Just wanting an official word on what is supposed to happen
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I wish that PD would hurry up and fix this. On some turns going wide is advantageous and on others it's not.
 
ItsAllAboutWins
Question about the track boundary rules... lets say I am having an intense battle with someone behind me and I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? Sometimes races do get intense, hands get sweaty and we make a mistake. Just wanting an official word on what is supposed to happen
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As long as when you enter that turn Ahead of the guy and go wide out and DO NOT gain any ground on him, you keep on going, and make sure when going back on track its all Clean and no one is around you,

If you however do gain ground you do have to let off the gas and let the car behind you re-gain that ground.

Me and @tzracer have decided to put Penalty strength on STRONG, all Penalty's are 3 seconds
 
ItsAllAboutWins
Question about the track boundary rules... lets say I am having an intense battle with someone behind me and I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? Sometimes races do get intense, hands get sweaty and we make a mistake. Just wanting an official word on what is supposed to happen
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This logic leads one to believe that the track bounderies can be extended to areas that were never intended to be part of the racing surface. Just because the other guy can't make up ground on you doesn't give you the right to use off-track areas to support your unorthodox driving lines. Perhaps the following driver would have been able to make up ground on you had you remained on the racing surface, but didn't only because you extended the racing surface to your advantage.
 
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I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? Sometimes races do get intense, hands get sweaty and we make a mistake. Just wanting an official word on what is supposed to happen
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ANFD
This logic leads one to believe that the track bounderies can be extended to areas that were never intended to be part of the racing surface. Just because the other guy can't make up ground on you doesn't give you the right to use off-track areas to support your unorthodox driving lines. Perhaps the following driver would have been able to make up ground on you had you remained on the racing surface, but didn't only because you extended the racing surface to your advantage.
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I think your misreading what Wins is asking. I've highlighted the keywords in both your quotes to show that your not talking about the same thing and FD's answer is missing the point of Wins question. As I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? is a far cry from Just because the other guy can't make up ground on you doesn't give you the right to use off-track areas to support your unorthodox driving lines. Although FD's quote is textbook OLR it does not pertain to what Wins is asking
 
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I think your misreading what Wins is saying. I've highlighted the keywords in both your quotes to show that your not talking about the same thing and FD's answer has nothing to do with Wins question. As I make an error and run wide on an exit, but don't lose momentum and the driver can't make any ground. Am I supposed to slow down and let them pass? is a far cry from Just because the other guy can't make up ground on you doesn't give you the right to use off-track areas to support your unorthodox driving lines. Although FD's quote is textbook OLR it does not pertain to what Wins is asking
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They may seem to be two different concepts but the outcome is the same. I say this because after watching lap after lap of replay footage I see the same drivers "making the same mistake" over and over and using it to their advantage. The advantage is that they are able to carry more momentum by taking the wider arc off track rather than lift slightly in order to stay on track. One can rationalize all they want, they're still putting 4 wheels over the curbing to gain an advantage, no matter how you choose to justify it.
 
I race going by the GTP's OLR standards and by the WRS Time Trial rules, which is how TRL is "supposed" to be ran. I don't abuse the lenient gt penalty system because thats not how I've trained for the past year. If anyone were to go back and watch any of the replays of the gt5 races I've been in, I always keep at least 2 tyres on the track or rumbles, I keep 2 tires inside the white line on run off areas, and I don't count those green areas as track.


I abide by the rules 100% of the time and in my question, I was trying to figure out an answer to an occurrence of human nature... a mistake..

I kind of take offense to your post, as if you've seen me race and I was cutting corners.

ANFD
This logic leads one to believe that the track bounderies can be extended to areas that were never intended to be part of the racing surface. Just because the other guy can't make up ground on you doesn't give you the right to use off-track areas to support your unorthodox driving lines. Perhaps the following driver would have been able to make up ground on you had you remained on the racing surface, but didn't only because you extended the racing surface to your advantage.
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ItsAllAboutWins
I race going by the GTP's OLR standards and by the WRS Time Trial rules, which is how TRL is "supposed" to be ran. I don't abuse the lenient gt penalty system because thats not how I've trained for the past year. If anyone were to go back and watch any of the replays of the gt5 races I've been in, I always keep at least 2 tyres on the track or rumbles, I keep 2 tires inside the white line on run off areas, and I don't count those green areas as track.


I abide by the rules 100% of the time and in my question, I was trying to figure out an answer to an occurrence of human nature... a mistake..

I kind of take offense to your post, as if you've seen me race and I was cutting corners.
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That's why I'm addressing to keep at least 2 tires on track at all times and if a driver keeps going off lap by lap a action will be taken

Simple as stay on track and have fun
 
Qualifying starts at 10:05 right? Just asking because I won't be home until around 9:45, cutting it close but I don't want to miss this race!
 
ItsAllAboutWins
I race going by the GTP's OLR standards and by the WRS Time Trial rules, which is how TRL is "supposed" to be ran. I don't abuse the lenient gt penalty system because thats not how I've trained for the past year. If anyone were to go back and watch any of the replays of the gt5 races I've been in, I always keep at least 2 tyres on the track or rumbles, I keep 2 tires inside the white line on run off areas, and I don't count those green areas as track.


I abide by the rules 100% of the time and in my question, I was trying to figure out an answer to an occurrence of human nature... a mistake..

I kind of take offense to your post, as if you've seen me race and I was cutting corners.
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I have NEVER mentioned anyone by name and I have NEVER said that you did anything wrong or that I saw you cutting corners. We were having a discussion about semantics, or the way words are used and interpretted. This is a philosophical discussion based on generalities. There is no need for anyone to take this personally. I simply mentioned an observation and questioned it. That's all. Then I mentioned that I saw "drivers" making the same "mistake" (and I know that's not the correct word) over and over. I never said it was you. I just think that it's unsportsmanlike for anyone to gain advantage by running of track ... this is a generality and not pointed at anyone in particular. For the record, there is no way in hell I could watch replays of all 12 guys over 28 laps over 13 corners a lap to see who or who wasn't doing whatever it is we're talking about. This is a generalized conversation.
 
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