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- Thread starter Ph1sh
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- GTP_Ph1sh
@KTR5 the main thing for me for this combo is brake hard, get too your speed let off brake and the car will angle for the turn and manage your throttle out of the turn and if you can angle the car perfect, I can floor it coming out of the turn without the oversteer and understeer..just a little trick I use for this combo..be patience and aggressive with the car.. patient into turns and aggressive out of turns..slow in..fast out
We can practice together and I'm willing to help you out tonight If you want..
We can practice together and I'm willing to help you out tonight If you want..
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- CoachMK21
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- euclid58
This isn't going to help much, but I struggled with tire wear after about 7 laps or so, and if I tried to hit the same marks after that as the beginning it was just bad..bad,bad. Everyone showed up last night as I was doing 7,8 laps or so and I was having problems. But I've never had to deal with wear like that before. I'd say raise brake strength maybe, higher than default. I should do the same too, and wouldn't have thought about it unless you mentioned it.
Your doing a lot better than me though.
edit: Never mind, we cant do that. It would help though if we could.
Im really tired right now.
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- 758
- Rhode Island
- GTP_Severn
Problem is running "slow" is actually easier said than done in most cases (not trying to say "I'm so fast! I don't even have the ability to go slow!" like I'm Ricky Bobby or something...)
It's just inevitable that after the first few laps, people tend to subconsciously think "ok, I know I can safely brake a little later for that corner" and "I know I can get on the gas a little sooner coming out of that other corner" right until they're screaming "TOO LATE!" and/or "TOO SOON!"
I'm going to invent a shock collar that zaps me every time it sees me trying to push harder than I should
It's just inevitable that after the first few laps, people tend to subconsciously think "ok, I know I can safely brake a little later for that corner" and "I know I can get on the gas a little sooner coming out of that other corner" right until they're screaming "TOO LATE!" and/or "TOO SOON!"
I'm going to invent a shock collar that zaps me every time it sees me trying to push harder than I should
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- turnupdaheat
Try the opposite. If you brake too late you'll find yourself understeering which will delay you getting on the power so try braking a little bit earlier. I find the car responds pretty well to positive inputs and once you have your braking and your line right you can get back on the throttle early and power through the sweeping corners. Also, it's easy at Spa to lose alot of time by not getting your exit speed right. Take turn 1 for example, if you carry too much speed through there the tendency is to run wide and you're alway fighting to get back on the power which is vital when you consider the length of the run from there, through Eau Rouge, and all the way up the hill to Les Combes. I'm not up with the outright quickest guys but I ended up so far with a 2:22.2 without any slipstream assistance.
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- ItsAllAboutWins
Who was that idiot that was winning the 1st race and pitted on the last lap?
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- GTP_Ph1sh
You!!Who was that idiot that was winning the 1st race and pitted on the last lap?
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- euclid58
I've only played GT online for a week and had a decent race last week. I just learned how to set up a race yesterday.
But there's a lot I don't know. Does the program spit you out if you've gone off too many times ? If so, I didn't know that. I'm trying to figure it out, because I don't have connection issues. I've got the best there is, hard wired.
I was trying to get out of everyones way the best I could. I saw lots of other people going off though.
But there's a lot I don't know. Does the program spit you out if you've gone off too many times ? If so, I didn't know that. I'm trying to figure it out, because I don't have connection issues. I've got the best there is, hard wired.
I was trying to get out of everyones way the best I could. I saw lots of other people going off though.
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- ItsAllAboutWins
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KTR5 .... turnupdaheat makes a good point. My avatar bubble message has always been "Go Slow to Go Fast". First thing I notice is that you're trying to run D1 times by comparing your laps to D1 drivers and you're obviously over-driving the car. It's like you're sayin "I keep braking later and harder but the car still under-steers and my tires are wearing more". Maybe you aren't D1 caliber yet (as many of us) and maybe you should just race yourself against the track and not try to match the fastest guys right off the bat. Once you find a rythm that allows you to stay on track and run consistant times, then that's the point at which you start to extend yourself a bit more. I always find it necessary to brake about 10 yards sooner than I think I should
Also, I might point out that I see a philosophical difference between myself and some others. I see some others to be much more aggressive than I (not a bad thing). To me it appears as though winning is a very high priority to them. That additional pressure one puts on oneself can cause issues relative to "over-driving" (are you listening Severn) I find that I'm here to simply have fun racing, finishing where-ever. That frame of mind allows me to drive at a more relaxed pace, make fewer errors and minimize personal frustration. It also then is a pleasant surprize now and then when I exceed my own expectations 
Also, I might point out that I see a philosophical difference between myself and some others. I see some others to be much more aggressive than I (not a bad thing). To me it appears as though winning is a very high priority to them. That additional pressure one puts on oneself can cause issues relative to "over-driving" (are you listening Severn)
I find that I'm here to simply have fun racing, finishing where-ever. That frame of mind allows me to drive at a more relaxed pace, make fewer errors and minimize personal frustration. It also then is a pleasant surprize now and then when I exceed my own expectations
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SilverFire
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8 orders an hour to be exact.
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- turnupdaheat
Who was that idiot that was winning the 1st race and pitted on the last lap?
To-Do List:
1. Hang around in 2nd place behind Wins.
2. Wait for him to pit on last lap when he needn't.
3. WIN!
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- Richmond, Va
- Scarecrow937
Many things can cause this... most say PD has unstable servers but I disagree with that notion. I think the average user's internet connection is to blame. GT6 uses a lot of Upload data to get you on the track... this is a problem for people running wireless as regardless of speed, wireless connections will hiccup. Wireless also causes compatibility issues so drivers dont see each other on the track. Even if your connection is great, if someone else's sucks then you may fall victim. Moral of the story, stay wired and if the stewards are doing their jobs we should be wired as well and there should be no problem. I have not been disconnected from GT6 yet...
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I disagree on one point in particular. My wireless connection is much more reliable and stable than my wired connection. The up and down speeds are the same regardless. If the wireless connection is stable and doesn't hiccup, then there is really not much of a difference. I've never had any issues with the wireless connection unless it goes down completely due to my ISP doing line maintenance for example. When I run a hard-wire connection, every now and then I get a "Hard wire cable not connected" error and then it reconnects but still causes issues. My point is that your blanket statement may not always be correct.
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- GTP_Severn
Guys, guys, guys.
The internet is just magic... and sometimes the chi forces of the planets aren't aligned correctly... be sure to read your horoscope 7 times before connecting and do your best not to make any Harry Potter references for at least 24 hours before or after a race night...
Sheesh... this is like Networking 101. Noobs.
The internet is just magic... and sometimes the chi forces of the planets aren't aligned correctly... be sure to read your horoscope 7 times before connecting and do your best not to make any Harry Potter references for at least 24 hours before or after a race night...
Sheesh... this is like Networking 101. Noobs.
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- Scarecrow937
A fair statement i somewhat agree with. the previous issue with your wired connection is blatantly a hardware issue though so check your input and cables. Something is wearing out.
I guess my point is more "there is no outside influence on a wired connection". if a large box truck turns around in your cul-de-sac then it can theoretically bounce your signal and cause a hiccup regardless of your setup.
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- Scarecrow937
You only have to worry when your horoscope brings up "Twilight" references. Then you know you are ******
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- ANFD
I agree with what you say about it being a hardware issue and I've checked the cable and connectors diligently. It started this behavior from day one, so I don't think that it's necessarily a "wear" issue. When I am racing, there is a house rule that no other devices that can connect to the internet be turned on. We turn off the other computers just in case Malwarebytes or some other automated software wants to download an update. Our house sits back from the road some 250 feet and the road dead-ends another 100 yds down, so there's very little traffic.
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- Scarecrow937
My network adapter on my fatboy ps2 did that from day one too. Annoying... You seem to have a decent setup then. Wireless can be perfect, just not as often as wired. The real problem are the COD kids playing wirelessly with 3 computers and 2 ipads going in the background with no port forwarding. Of course they also have crappy blu-tooths cranked at full volume. 1 rabbit hole... 6 rabbits.
SilverFire
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I don't port forward the routers. Only because my PS3 and one computer is hooked up to it. Everything else stays away from my internet.
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But my horoscope told me to make harry Potter references !!!
Don't panic... just grab a towel, soak it in water, hang it on your front door, and then let me win on Saturday and you'll be fine.
On to some actual jury-rigging tips:
Fun fact about running on Wifi, if you think you are experiencing issues with signal strength and other wifi issues and you are literally unable to go wired, or relocate your router or PS3 to a more optimal location, a simple parabolic antenna made out of a metal mixing bowl (or a tin foil lined mixing bowl, or whatever round-ish shaped object you have that you can then line with tin foil) positioned around the router and pointed in the direction of your PS3 (or any wifi device really) can drastically improve your signal strength and availability. Your family may think you've gone crazy, but it will actually help (No correcting my physics here, tzracer
)Also, since the whole "DMZ" thing has been mentioned before, another option (one which I actually use personally) is many of the cable modems provided by your ISP are built-in modems/router combos, if you are then running a hard line from your modem to a separate router that you then use for wireless or your home network... you can connect your PS3 straight to your modem, bypassing your internal network and avoiding the extra layer of NAT'ing that would be setup by default in a scenario like that. (Basically, if your modem has more than one LAN-out port, and you use another router off of the modem, you can run your PS3 straight to the modem and bypass your usual router.)
Finally: if you are really trying to pinch every bit of bandwidth out of your connection, make sure you use as few coaxial splitters as possible between your modem and the telephone pole (or whatever point is officially no longer on your property).
A normal 2-way coaxial splitter reduces signal strength by -3.5dB, and a 3-way is even worse (up to -7dB because it stacks) depending on how many TVs, or just cable jacks you have in your house alone (nothing needs to be plugged into them or even running, the splitters reduce signal strength regardless), this can really start to add up. When I first moved into my place, I noticed that the cable provider set up a horrible configuration where as soon as the line got into my basement it connected to a 3-way splitter, and then from there would go on to split over and over again before actually reaching a wall-jack. (I guess the previous owner reeeeally liked having options on where they could plug in their cable boxes and modems) Basically, if I had used another 2-way splitter just to connect my modem and a cable box into a single wall jack, my connection would've hit 4-5 splitters total before getting out to the world. Not even counting the extra noise from a 3-way splitter, I would be looking at -14 to -17.5dB right off my signal strength before I even tried to start tuning my internal network to figure out where my lag is... which is BAD... and borderline Impossible.
Don't quote me on this, but if I remember correctly, the ideal signal strength for a cable modem is between -6dB and +3dB. Unless your ISP is crap or you're in a large apartment complex, or some other location where they may boost the signal strength, the signal strength initially running into your house should be right at 0dB (which is considered the sweet spot). Outside the ideal signal strength range you will begin to experience dropped packets, wide variations in bandwidth speeds, and possibly even complete disconnects from your ISP. What I ended up doing was re-routing the cable jack in my office all the way back to that first splitter and plugging it straight into there (on 3 way splitters, one of the jacks will still be a -3.5dB and two will be -7dB) and then letting the rest of my house run off the other lines.
If you log into your router, or modem interface, you can usually find your signal strength somewhere in the Connection information... hopefully it is as close to 0dB as possible (might appear as dBmV). If you are running really low, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to clear the line then call your ISP. There are Coaxial signal amplifiers available, but last time I checked they do not work for modems... and will actually cause your modem to not connect at all (this may have changed). Regardless, if you've verified that you have the cleanest route out possible but you're still having really low signal strength, calling your ISP and giving them the exact numbers should get them to your door.
Really, really, really, long story short, if you're not afraid of getting your hands dirty and tracing the coax cables around your house, you can pinch every last drop of juice from your connection by simply making sure your modem has the most direct route to the world as possible.
I dug around google for a minute and found this little graph showing an ideal configuration for an overloaded house (like mine)... it shows the use of signal amplifiers to the TVs, which I personally don't use, but most importantly note how the modem should be run all the way back to the very first splitter and plugged into the smallest dB loss jack.
EDIT: I just wanted to make note that I don't have 8 TVs in my house
but, like I said, splitters reduce strength regardless of whether or not anything is plugged in at the other end.
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