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[tzracer]

Great Video @ANFD, im actually very disappointed on how some D2 drivers were driving. Guys please BEFORE Racing with us, Know the OLR Rules, I dont want to type out a Full 5 pages on the OLR rules, we apply them, we dont disobey them.

Thankyou

It is pretty simple really, any contact is bad. Rubbing is not racing, it is bad driving.

Required reading:
OLR - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtplanet-online-racing-olr-rules-guidelines.111241/
Good Racecraft Guide - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-good-racecraft-guide.183891/

 

[tzracer]

I have no idea what occurred with anyone, just making a personal experience / observation from the last races.

I noticed when i was on the inside and tried to brake for Turn 1 at Monza in the wet, my car would try to swerve hard to the left. It almost caught me out a couple times and after that i made sure not to try to pass there anymore unless i was very clear of the other car and could safely get back to the dry, left line.
It was very odd and very surprising when it happened to me.

I just wanted to point this out in case it contributed to your experience with other drivers coming over on you under braking. Not sure if it was a result of gt6 physics or what, but i had not experienced it in this car anywhere else other than in the rigth lane at the end of the long straight going into turn 1.

From what I have read, it seems the entire track may not dry all at once. Offline it can still be slick. Perhaps you were on part wet/part dry track. Problem is you cannot see if the track is part dry/wet.

I broke on the inside later in the race and had no problems.

 

[deadbob777]

From what I have read, it seems the entire track does not dry at once. Offline it can still be slick. Perhaps you were on part wet/part dry track. Problem is you cannot see if the track is part dry/wet.

I broke on the inside later in the race and had no problems.

One part I noticed that seemed to dry later than everywhere else was the 2nd turn after the 2nd chicane

 

[micantony]

Referring to Physher's comment above:


Not sure i agree 100%. I say this because we can't see very well around our car in this game; Small bumps do occur when racing in close proximity to other drivers. Mind you, i am referring to the small bumps that don't cause anyone to go off or anything. If you get hit hard enough to disturb you and go off track, that is a completely different type of bump than what I am referring to.

So while I agree that any contact is bad, I do feel there are different levels of contact and some stem from over-aggressiveness, while others are just part of the game and racing hard.

This lack of sight around us is also why I tend to back off a little more than most when fighting for the same piece of track (particularly when I am the passer, i want it to be a 100% clean pass before the braking zone or I back off and try again later). I have seen and been involved in too many incidents. I have a lot of respect for drivers who can cleanly run side by side on the edge. I cannot do it.

 

[micantony]

From what I have read, it seems the entire track may not dry all at once. Offline it can still be slick. Perhaps you were on part wet/part dry track. Problem is you cannot see if the track is part dry/wet.

I broke on the inside later in the race and had no problems.

That would make sense for turn 1 and my experience. I found that by looking in my rear, i could see the spray and tell where the dry line was (even when game said 0% wet, offline it was still very wet!)

 

[ANFD]

That first race was so hectic, the second race was very calm and for the most part uneventful.

In answer to your previous question ... no there will not be a video from Race 2. The main reason is that it's very time consuming and I don't have the time. The second reason is listed above in your comment. Nobody wants to sit and watch an "uneventful" race. All the mayhem contributes greatly to the visual stimulation which is necessary to hold the viewer's attention

 

[tzracer]

Not sure i agree 100%. I say this because we can't see very well around our car in this game; Small bumps do occur when racing in close proximity to other drivers. Mind you, i am referring to the small bumps that don't cause anyone to go off or anything. If you get hit hard enough to disturb you and go off track, that is a completely different type of bump than what I am referring to.

So while I agree that any contact is bad, I do feel there are different levels of contact and some stem from over-aggressiveness, while others are just part of the game and racing hard.

This lack of sight around us is also why I tend to back off a little more than most when fighting for the same piece of track (particularly when I am the passer, i want it to be a 100% clean pass before the braking zone or I back off and try again later). I have seen and been involved in too many incidents. I have a lot of respect for drivers who can cleanly run side by side on the edge. I cannot do it.

I agree with you. It is more difficult in the game to avoid contact due to vision etc. I tend to try to leave some room, brake early. This does cost me because people will use this to try to dive in front. So be it. My real racing experience can be a detriment in this respect, because crashing left you on the side watching.

From the OLR:
A:
Contacts and collisions must be avoided at all costs.
B:
In case you brake too late for a corner or partially lose control of your car, but can prevent an accident by steering into the dirt, grass or a wall, you are expected to do so.

 

[ANFD]

I have no idea what occurred with anyone, just making a personal experience / observation from the last races.

I noticed when i was on the inside and tried to brake for Turn 1 at Monza in the wet, my car would try to swerve hard to the left. It almost caught me out a couple times and after that i made sure not to try to pass there anymore unless i was very clear of the other car and could safely get back to the dry, left line.
It was very odd and very surprising when it happened to me.

I just wanted to point this out in case it contributed to your experience with other drivers coming over on you under braking. Not sure if it was a result of gt6 physics or what, but i had not experienced it in this car anywhere else other than in the rigth lane at the end of the long straight going into turn 1.

Brake bias settings and ABS setting have quite an influence on whether or not the car gets wiggly under hard braking and it doesn't have to be a factor of it being wet. I had the same thing happen with the Corvette C7 at turn 1 at Indy and managed to calm it down by adjusting these items. Also, I might add that for me in the wet at Monza I found the car to brake with more stability by timing the downshifts better and easing into the brake pedal slower (softer).

 

[Ph1sh]

Results might be delayed to be posted. Need D1 R2 results

 

[USERID_77a23]

I agree 100% with everything youre saying tzracer. We need everyone in the league to take it to heart. I'm slower than most out here but I refuse to take chances I wouldn't take in real life. Contact is easily avoided in this game, you just have to want to race proper

 

[BionicDerp]

I've never read anything from the good racecraft guide, or the OLR. If I have, I don't remember/it's become implanted in my brain somehow.

I don't understand why one would move to the outside in T1 when they're now leading and supposed to be defending.... You should pretty much always try to have the inside line, but it depends on the corner sometimes.

Can this be over with? Lets just look forward to next week.

Also, could someone open a lobby? I have to make supper for myself. Home alone, not going to be on for a while.

 

[The Engineer]

It is pretty simple really, any contact is bad. Rubbing is not racing, it is bad driving.

Required reading:
OLR - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtplanet-online-racing-olr-rules-guidelines.111241/
Good Racecraft Guide - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-good-racecraft-guide.183891/

Hopefully, I'm not among those examples, Ph1sher.
But If I do, I appologize to all fellow racers that I might have bumped or dive bombed or such.

 

[The Engineer]

I agree 100% with everything youre saying tzracer. We need everyone in the league to take it to heart. I'm slower than most out here but I refuse to take chances I wouldn't take in real life. Contact is easily avoided in this game, you just have to want to race proper

USER
Yesterday we raced together at Mount Panorama and I say that it was a lot of fun and as clean as possible.

 

[3forSpeed]

I have no idea what occurred with anyone, just making a personal experience / observation from the last races.

I noticed when i was on the inside and tried to brake for Turn 1 at Monza in the wet, my car would try to swerve hard to the left. It almost caught me out a couple times and after that i made sure not to try to pass there anymore unless i was very clear of the other car and could safely get back to the dry, left line.
It was very odd and very surprising when it happened to me.

I just wanted to point this out in case it contributed to your experience with other drivers coming over on you under braking. Not sure if it was a result of gt6 physics or what, but i had not experienced it in this car anywhere else other than in the rigth lane at the end of the long straight going into turn 1.

I also experienced this on the wet line. The first time it happened the car practically turned to the left. Very unsettled. I was countering this by braking slight bit earlier and with less force then drop in behind the car in the dry line. I hope this doesn't deter us from racing in the rain again. It was a good learning experience.

 

[BionicDerp]

Hopefully, I'm not among those examples, Ph1sher.
But If I do, I appologize to all fellow racers that I might have bumped or dive bombed or such.

All that needs to be known, is that everyone needs to pay attention to their braking points. Once you go past that point, which this week was around 110M for the brave, it wasn't going to end well. I'll try to take pics of braking point locations for next week.

 

[ANFD]

I'm with tzracer both philosophically and practically. All contact is bad and contrary to some opinions, it is not inevitable just because of the limitations of the game. All it takes is for drivers to simply be less aggressive and more patient. It's also helpful if everyone on track respects each other as friends. When people say that "contact is going to happen", I can guarantee you that contact will happen ... it's called "self-fulfilling prophesy". If everyone on track set their highest priority to drive cleanly (above and beyond finishing first) then there could be no contact.

As for Ph1shr's comment about the D2 race etiquette, I have to take a slight exception. By and large I've witnessed the cleanest driving in many of the series I've attempted since racing in D2. I did see a few boo boos but they were mistakes of poor judgement, not necessarily over-aggressive, ego driven, power plays. With new people coming and going, it's hard to get a read on everybody but I've personally raced nose to tail, door to door with many D2 drivers for literally hours now (over many races). Some of the issues in the D2 race were a result of lag on one driver's part.

 

[quade420]

I noticed when i was on the inside and tried to brake for Turn 1 at Monza in the wet, my car would try to swerve hard to the left. It almost caught me out a couple times and after that i made sure not to try to pass there anymore unless i was very clear of the other car and could safely get back to the dry, left line.
It was very odd and very surprising when it happened to me.

This exact thing happened to me when I was racing with dphino. I was pretty much clear of him going into turn one but I wasn't going to move over into his line. Unfortunately this happened when I tried to brake for turn one and I very nearly took both of us out. Luckily we both managed to regain control and keep going, though it cost us quite a bit of time.

 

[johnsom]

@Ph1sher what incident or incidents you were disappointed in? There may be few bumps and slight dive bombing but i find that d2 drivers new and old try our best not to take advantage of the situation. I am pretty sure d2 speeds are safer when passing compared to d1 speeds... I am not trying to spark division wars but d1 drivers are crazy fast (in a good way)

 

[Ph1sh]

@Ph1sher what incident or incidents you were disappointed in? There may be few bumps and slight dive bombing but i find that d2 drivers new and old try our best not to take advantage of the situation. I am pretty sure d2 speeds are safer when passing compared to d1 speeds... I am not trying to spark division wars but d1 drivers are crazy fast (in a good way)

ghosting,dive bomb so on no worries

 

[deadbob777]

Ghosting around the first chican was rediculous, and I believe a big part of the prolonged ghosting was due in part to lag

 

[SilverFire]

Got some pictures from Race 2 last Saturday night. Enjoy! I DC'd from Race 1.

Race Two Start

Lap one, first chicane.

Lap one, Turn six and seven.

@RacingOtaku86, @ItsAllAboutWins, @Severn and @Dolph Drago running 2 by 2 wide.

@SilverFire, @RacingOtaku86 and @ItsAllAboutWins running three wide heading for the first turn.

Nice little picture of the second chicane with @Dolph Drago entering.

@SilverFire and @RacingOtaku86 running two wide for the first turn.

@SilverFire, @RacingOtaku86 and @Dolph Drago in the first chicane.

Only way we could keep @micantony close.

@Dolph Drago

@Severn

@micantony

@Ph1sher

@ItsAllAboutWins

I am going to personally say, racing with @RacingOtaku86 was one of the best and possibly THE best racing I will ever experience. I'd like to thank Ph1sher for hosting and for everyone that came, but my special thanks goes to @RacingOtaku86 who gave me one crazy battle from lap 6 till the end of lap 24.

 

[USERID_77a23]

USER
Yesterday we raced together at Mount Panorama and I say that it was a lot of fun and as clean as possible.

I'll race beside you any day Mr.P , a lot of fun out there

 

[Daniel Pinho]

I broke on the inside later in the race and had no problems.

I did the same, lap 6 turn 1, gained position with no incident. The wet icon was at 0% but I have seeing some spray from other cars.

By the way:
I'm not looking for who was right or wrong. I had lot of fun with all of you and my only sorry was about my disconnection on Race 2. I just point something i saw a couple times to have an EVEN better night racing next week.

 

[Daniel Pinho]

Ghosting around the first chican was rediculous, and I believe a big part of the prolonged ghosting was due in part to lag

I'm willing to pay the price to see no ghosts, even if someone crashes in front of me and I loose the race. At least it seems to be more realistic, IMO.

 

[Ph1sh]

Results will be up later tomorrow night! 👍

Banner for this week will be up either tomorrow or Wednesday!


PLUSSS!!!!

Big News!

TurtleTV is Now Here! Im getting an HDPVR Elgato for LiveStreaming Races that means you can watch the races LIVE! Plus Youtube Videos with my commentating skills

 

[SilverFire]

You mean we can watch it on DirectTV?

 

[Ph1sh]

You mean we can watch it on DirectTV?

oh yesss!!

 

[SilverFire]

I'll have to remember that.

 

[deadbob777]

Since @ANFD did a video for Div 2 race 1, I took some pictures of Div 2 race 2, so yup

Starting Grid:

Cluster 🤬 At Turn 1:

Pass One Between deadbob777 & @JakobNascar88

Almost lead change between @ANFD & deadbob777

Bad choice of passing by @drifterboy77 gaining 1 spot just to lose 3:

The Crew:
@JakobNascar88

@The Engineer

drifterboy77

@USERID_77a23

@3forSpeed

@johnsom

Downhill for @ANFD:

The Final Lead Change:

And drifterboy77 Passing ANFD Putting Him Back To Third:

 

[deadbob777]

*delete*