- 1,694
- ontario
- USERID_77a23
I'd like to join your league if there's room for me .. I'm not the fastest, that's for sure , so putting me near the back would prolly be best . Thanks
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- Thread starter zer05ive
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- 4,499
- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
I can call a spade a spade. Am I dick for it? Probably. But zero and I have never really seen eye to eye on anything. If he calls it resentment then I want to show him where my opinions stem from.
I have no problem calling any of these "Leaders" out on anything. Most people who agree with me don't really want to say anything publicly for "fear" of being lambasted. I've been through all that...so I really don't mind being drug through the public opinion ringer. People who really know me through racing and online racing chat really know what kind of guy I am.
I don't need my "like" button to be checked as that would associate someone with me. Calling me a "Coach" is a bit off I'd say. I never drove purposefully like a douche and then tried to blame it on everyone else.
I don't mind being the dick...just on my own merits
I don't care when the last time Bernie took a corner...
While much of what you say is true, my comments still stand as true at the core.
PS...chiochan...you take that back!
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- 874
- Ottawa, Canada
- GTP_pyxen
S.N.A.I.L. Driver Anniversary Announcement
Please join my in congratulating our newest entrant into the S.N.A.I.L. One Year Club
Thanks kcheeb!
I can support that Joe... I think honesty and frank opinions are important. I'll retract the Coach comparison.. Definitely didn't mean it in the driving sense.
For the record, regardless of how good someone is at a game, or what their position is in league mgmt, I too have no problem calling them out if I think something warrants it...
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@speer9892003,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@MerlinRPM,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
- 4,499
- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
It's all good Pyxen. we've never had issues before. I know it seems ridiculous for me to even be posting here because I haven't driven on Sunday much since they changed the start time...but I still at least buy the cars and have aspirations that something will happen on race night allowing me to participate one day.
I've had public issues with a couple of high profile people here. But I don't have a reputation to tarnish by doing so. So I don't really mind throwing it out there when some of these old debates pop up
I've had public issues with a couple of high profile people here. But I don't have a reputation to tarnish by doing so. So I don't really mind throwing it out there when some of these old debates pop up
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@USERID_77a23,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
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- 4,499
- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
I've run with UserID in some other rooms before...although he may not remember it. But he's a damn good driver and would be an asset to SNAIL.
kcheeb
Premium
- 4,753
- Alberta
- kcheeb
- kcheeb
I am at a total loss right now. I want to jump in but I see no point, it's the internet right. Everyone can do and say anything they want, regardless of whether it's germane to the discussion, furthers their point, refutes the debatee's point or makes them look 'BIG'.
The decisions made were always in the interest of furthering S.N.A.I.L. Take a look around, are we further, 🤬 yeah.
Just 🤬 wow. :shakes head:
The decisions made were always in the interest of furthering S.N.A.I.L. Take a look around, are we further, 🤬 yeah.
Just 🤬 wow. :shakes head:
- 296
- NC
- silent_killer59
I would like to join in this league, my good friend X3NO-ASX recommended it to me, and would love to meet new people to play GT6 online with. I do work a part-time job, and have eye surgery upcoming on the 9th of January. Once I'm healed up after a week or so, I'd like to try out. PSN is silent_killer59
Just remembered I got an invite from SNAIL_SpecRacing, sorry it took me so long to reply.
Just remembered I got an invite from SNAIL_SpecRacing, sorry it took me so long to reply.
Handlebar
Premium
- 3,969
- Herndon, VA
- HandlebarMustash
In a nutshell, I believe having penalties off is going to have more unintended negative effects on the close, as well as the clean goals. The only upside I see is that it may reign in the over aggressive bump'n run pass that took advantage of ghosting. The number of racers who get collected into The Big One will increase, this will spread out the field and have a bigger difference in finishing times.
As for the trope that any division - D1 included - is inherently more into good racecraft, baloney. I can't recall ever getting an OB penalty when I wasn't pushing tires to the edges and beyond of what was allowed. The Penalty, one I learned before a race or during qualifying taught me not to do that again and not repeat it.
I think Penalties On, All Divisions is what I support the most.
As for Zer05ive, I think his "participation" on/off the racing grid is pretty clearly HUGE. Everyone has real life balances, some with jobs, wife, kids, and I feel he does a good job balancing his real and virtual time to make it work for him. I can't criticize someone for not racing as much as he may wish when he spends his time running a league that allows so many drivers to race in an organized fashion.
As for the trope that any division - D1 included - is inherently more into good racecraft, baloney. I can't recall ever getting an OB penalty when I wasn't pushing tires to the edges and beyond of what was allowed. The Penalty, one I learned before a race or during qualifying taught me not to do that again and not repeat it.
I think Penalties On, All Divisions is what I support the most.
As for Zer05ive, I think his "participation" on/off the racing grid is pretty clearly HUGE. Everyone has real life balances, some with jobs, wife, kids, and I feel he does a good job balancing his real and virtual time to make it work for him. I can't criticize someone for not racing as much as he may wish when he spends his time running a league that allows so many drivers to race in an organized fashion.
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@socomkiller59,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
Oshawa-Joe
Premium
- 5,158
- Hillsdale
- Oshawa-Joe
...
I don't need my "like" button to be checked as that would associate someone with me. Calling me a "Coach" is a bit off I'd say. I never drove purposefully like a douche and then tried to blame it on everyone else.
...
Now you have 59 Likes.
For the record, after thinking about this, I'm in agreement that D1 should be the only division without penalties; mostly because it probably does help the top half of D1 prepare for the Finals. I can't think of any other good reason as to why it should be different from the other divisions, which should definitely remain with penalties on.
I also believe zer0 has earned the right to be respected due to all the hard work and dedication. He is the founder after all, isn't he?
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- 1,694
- ontario
- USERID_77a23
Ha, thanks man
- 874
- Ottawa, Canada
- GTP_pyxen
See I think its a small distinction that matters... "Into" and ability are two different things... The D1 racecraft is definitely better... They are more consistent, precise, and faster at execution. No one in D3 to D6 can keep up over the course of a long race...they will lose it eventually.
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@varga,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
Oshawa-Joe
Premium
- 5,158
- Hillsdale
- Oshawa-Joe
Skills is earning enough shells he may be able to leave his day job soon.
I strongly believe having penalties on helps avoid major accidents, at times. I also think we can agree that the top half of D1 have incredible car control and are involved in very few accidents. The further down from that group of drivers we go, the more likely we are to have guys (like me) lose control and ruin someone else's race, unless ghosting helps prevent contact.
The short cutting thing I'm less concerned about. This isn't open lobby. Well, it is, but you know what I'm saying.
I strongly believe having penalties on helps avoid major accidents, at times. I also think we can agree that the top half of D1 have incredible car control and are involved in very few accidents. The further down from that group of drivers we go, the more likely we are to have guys (like me) lose control and ruin someone else's race, unless ghosting helps prevent contact.
The short cutting thing I'm less concerned about. This isn't open lobby. Well, it is, but you know what I'm saying.
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- 5,918
- Texas
- zer05ive
As I said before, turning penalties off across all divisions is certainly an option on the table. As we discussed at length last year, one of the biggest downsides of doing so was that requirement to watch closer for shortcutting. That is not a burden that I wanted the stewards to have. However, it seems that there's a sizable amount of support from the stewards to turn penalties off across all divisions.
- 3,613
- New England
- jobyone71
Zer0,
I just replied to your email. I pretty much agreed with everything you said.
I am a little confused as to why there should be a separate West coast Driver list and spreadsheet. If this is a new division of SNAIL running the same lineup with points counting towards the monthly prizes (buttkicker/gran stand) why are we not going to be included in the existing driver list and results spreadsheet? If we are not a new division of SNAIL then why would we not just run our own lineup? I really feel that if the West Coast division is going to work it needs to be fully integrated into the existing Sunday format. I also feel that saying it is not for existing drivers does not help. Why should an existing driver not be able to choose the time slot that works best for them? We seem to be getting new drivers at a rapid pace and why would they choose to race in a casual series instead of the official series? Otherwise I might as well just be starting a new SNAIL event.
Also I can still not earn shells. I assume this has something to do with not being in a division that is on the spreadsheet.
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
@Saisoku,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:
We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:
1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.
3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.
5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍
The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.
If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.
During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.
Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
