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I am confused....and new.....that is a deadly combination :lol:

Some folks are talking about practicing track/car combos for this weeks race, but all I see are combos from March 23rd. I am sure it is because I am new, that maybe I am not looking in the right place for the 3 combos for Sundays race. I just want to get a little seat time when I get the chance to run as smooth as I can.
 
2 of the three combos are confirmed so go ahead and practice the Renaultsport Megane Trophy Base model '11 at Spa-Francorchamps and the BMW M3 CSL '03 at Apricot Hill for the moment. You, along with everyone else, will see the third combo being announced in this thread sometime later on so don't worry about that one for the moment.
 
Given the fact that official practice is less than 12 hours away, we need to get moving on the prize selections.

canucklehead, you have until 2 PM ET to make a decision between prize B and C. If no decision has been made by then, you will be awarded prize B and then @hooker4 will have until 4 PM ET to freeze one part of the combo.

@kcheeb (tagged to notify canucklehead)

He has been notified. I have not heard back from him. As soon as I do I'll post here.
 
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A prize is awarded to the divisions winners with the three highest scores*. The division winner with the highest score gets Prize A. The division winner with the second highest score gets Prize B. The division winner with the third highest score gets Prize C: (NOTE: The three prize winners' votes do not count towards the car/track elimination vote)
Prize A: The right to select the new car and track combo to replace the combo that was voted off
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Good tips. On the first full quali/race I saw you using those skills nicely. You were on my ass for like 2 laps before I disconnected. That was intense :cheers:
Yeah that was a bummer. You had some great laps and I could get close but not close enough to make a move. My goal for the rest of that race was just to get around you...after you disappeared there was no one else to race!


Oh that reminds me. I recommend division hosts provide time for 3 laps on the BMW/Apricott Hill combo. I ran a clean lap on my first qualifying lap last night but because of the speed the game started my car at in the chicane my lap time was 7 seconds off pace. Everyone else seemed to get two fast laps in while I only had one. Usually they start you out far enough back that you can get a high speed run on the final corner but this track is a bit odd.

Also, I cannot stand the names on the track during qualifying. It is very distracting. I wish there was another qualifying mode we could use or we could turn those off like we can for seasonal events and license tests. I don't understand why PD adds these stupid features and ignores the major flaws in the game.
 
quote="bigjobrob, post: 9499754, member: 256406"]I am confused....and new.....that is a deadly combination :lol:

Some folks are talking about practicing track/car combos for this weeks race, but all I see are combos from March 23rd. I am sure it is because I am new, that maybe I am not looking in the right place for the 3 combos for Sundays race. I just want to get a little seat time when I get the chance to run as smooth as I can.[/quote]

Welcome to the league buddy, glad you could join us.
 
Yes, hopefully you can study it for the next practice session ;)
Yeah that was a bummer. You had some great laps and I could get close but not close enough to make a move. My goal for the rest of that race was just to get around you...after you disappeared there was no one else to race!


Oh that reminds me. I recommend division hosts provide time for 3 laps on the BMW/Apricott Hill combo. I ran a clean lap on my first qualifying lap last night but because of the speed the game started my car at in the chicane my lap time was 7 seconds off pace. Everyone else seemed to get two fast laps in while I only had one. Usually they start you out far enough back that you can get a high speed run on the final corner but this track is a bit odd.

Also, I cannot stand the names on the track during qualifying. It is very distracting. I wish there was another qualifying mode we could use or we could turn those off like we can for seasonal events and license tests. I don't understand why PD adds these stupid features and ignores the major flaws in the game.
Great race indeed, while it lasted! You can turn off the names. You need to go into the "watch" mode and scroll down to the bottom and change the setting where it says display names or something. But the lines will still be there unfortunately. The side affect is that the names will then be removed during races too.
 
Yes, hopefully you can study it for the next practice session ;)
Great race indeed, while it lasted! You can turn off the names. You need to go into the "watch" mode and scroll down to the bottom and change the setting where it says display names or something. But the lines will still be there unfortunately. The side affect is that the names will then be removed during races too.

I read every page! Also, to be clear - it is never my intention to ruin another drivers race by treating the track like a "derby". If I have, I apologize and will continue to work on keeping my eyes ahead instead of behind. Thank you for your patience!
 
Yes, hopefully you can study it for the next practice session ;)
Great race indeed, while it lasted! You can turn off the names. You need to go into the "watch" mode and scroll down to the bottom and change the setting where it says display names or something. But the lines will still be there unfortunately. The side affect is that the names will then be removed during races too.

Is it in the Watch Mode or in the Options Mode once you are on the track?
 
2 of the three combos are confirmed so go ahead and practice the Renaultsport Megane Trophy Base model '11 at Spa-Francorchamps and the BMW M3 CSL '03 at Apricot Hill for the moment. You, along with everyone else, will see the third combo being announced in this thread sometime later on so don't worry about that one for the moment.

Thank you
 
Why is it that we can't tag @CanuckleheadII in the posts?


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It let me tag him when I copied his name from the drivers list, but not when I try to just type it out. Curious...
Yeah I noticed that too. He's the only GTPlanet username I've ever come across where GTP12 will not auto-complete it (even when you have finished typing the whole thing it doesn't give that drop-down option to click) :confused:
 
I read every page! Also, to be clear - it is never my intention to ruin another drivers race by treating the track like a "derby". If I have, I apologize and will continue to work on keeping my eyes ahead instead of behind. Thank you for your patience!
Just keep practicing in traffic but remember a few key things...
- If you are making the pass, it is up to you to avoid contact.
- You must have substantial overlap before the turn-in point for the corner for the leading driver to leave you room for your line. If you don't have substantial overlap and you infringe upon the leading driver's line in any way - or have any sort of contact mid-corner, you are subject to a penalty (and angry drivers).
- When following closely in traffic, you will typically have to brake significantly earlier than your normal braking point. This is because of increased speed/decreased grip and drag due to draft, and because of the "domino effect".
- You must drive around ghosted cars - driving through them is not allowed, and you cannot make a pass if your car is ghosting.
- If you find yourself taking a corner side-by-side, you need to hold your line. Do not infringe upon other people's lines mid-corner.

Hopefully what I said above is correct (I'm not a Steward). But yes please work on your patience, braking points, and cornering/passing manners to avoid issues on a Sunday night. :)

Is it in the Watch Mode or in the Options Mode once you are on the track?
Setting is changed in Watch mode, but it applies to both watching and racing views.
 
@CanuckleheadII 's deadline has arrived. He is now the Prize B winner. @hooker4 is the prize C winner. Please make your announcement ASAP as to which part of the Integra at Ascari combo you are going to freeze. The sooner you can do this, the better. It is very likely that we are going to have to open up Prize B to some kind of suggestion and voting process.

In the event that hooker4 doesn't make a selection, every driver who raced in D5 this week should go ahead and vote if they want to freeze the car or track. Simple type Integra or Ascari here in the thread for the one you want to keep. If hooker4 hasn't made a choice by 4 PM ET, whatever votes are cast will make the decision.

If you raced in D4 this week, go ahead and make a car and track suggestion. The car suggestion should to run at Ascari and the track selection should be for where to take the Integra. Please only make one car and track suggestion, multiple suggestions will be removed from consideration. If we still haven't heard from canucklehead by 5PM ET. The suggestions will be voted on by all members of S.N.A.I.L. that raced this week. That voting will close at 7PM ET and I will need someone to count up the votes and make the announcement as I will be at work at that time.
 
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Some fun last night going from last to first with mixed division racers. I had a little run-in with @Adventuruss on lap 3. He went pretty far wide and I really didn't think he was going to pull it off and when he tried to grab the apex of turn 2 I was in the way. I tapped him one more time to straighten him out and we kept on racing. Later in the evening he really picked up the pace and I couldn't pass him again.

 
Some fun last night going from last to first with mixed division racers. I had a little run-in with @Adventuruss on lap 3. He went pretty far wide and I really didn't think he was going to pull it off and when he tried to grab the apex of turn 2 I was in the way. I tapped him one more time to straighten him out and we kept on racing. Later in the evening he really picked up the pace and I couldn't pass him again.

Post one of the same race but rear view :D ... That was a great race, I remember
 
Some fun last night going from last to first with mixed division racers. I had a little run-in with @Adventuruss on lap 3. He went pretty far wide and I really didn't think he was going to pull it off and when he tried to grab the apex of turn 2 I was in the way. I tapped him one more time to straighten him out and we kept on racing. Later in the evening he really picked up the pace and I couldn't pass him again.

Excellent video - I hope everyone takes a few minutes, before practice tonight, to watch & learn. Perfect illustration of patience and maintaining pace - not getting in a hurry to catch the driver ahead. Thanks for posting it.
 
Why is it that we can't tag @CanuckleheadII in the posts?


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It let me tag him when I copied his name from the drivers list, but not when I try to just type it out. Curious...


I believe it may be because he hasn't logged in since the sites update (can't remember the exact date it changed over). His profile says he hasn't logged in since Dec. 15th though so unless someone contacts him on psn I doubt he's going to post.
 
@CanuckleheadII 's deadline has arrived. He is now the Prize B winner. @hooker4 is the prize C winner. Please make your announcement ASAP as to which part of the Integra at Ascari combo you are going to freeze. The sooner you can do this, the better. It is very likely that we are going to have to open up Prize B to some kind of suggestion and voting process.

In the event that hooker4 doesn't make a selection, every driver who raced in D5 this week should go ahead and vote if they want to freeze the car or track. Simple type Integra or Ascari here in the thread for the one you want to keep. If hooker4 hasn't made a choice by 4 PM ET, whatever votes are cast will make the decision.

If you raced in D4 this week, go ahead and make a car and track suggestion. The car suggestion should to run at Ascari and the track selection should be for where to take the Integra. Please only make one car and track suggestion, multiple suggestions will be removed from consideration. If we still haven't heard from canucklehead by 5PM ET. The suggestions will be voted on by all members of S.N.A.I.L. that raced this week. That voting will close at 7PM ET and I will need someone to count up the votes and make the announcement as I will be at work at that time.

CanuckleheadII is busy beyond belief, he told me to have the D4 vote on prize B.
 
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