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[JLBowler]

Let me be even more clear in one short statement.

The only reason we don't expressly prohibit the tuning of brake balance, or any tuning that is allowed by the half baked "tuning prohibited" feature, is because we don't have a way to enforce the rule. That would be like putting a prisoner in a room with no locks and no guards and telling them to stay there. What do you think would happen?

Rest assured that if PD ever makes "tuning prohibited" really mean tuning prohibited, it will not be allowed in SNAIL.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact that you can enter a tuned car in a tuning prohibited room is a bug that PD just has not addressed. If there was a way to see the brake balance settings of a car, any adjustment would constitute a violation of the OLR under section 01. Rule O.

 

[aliengamer25]

I believe this discussion is closed, very clearly there a two different sides to the theory, but it is getting rather old and wasting thread pages. If you use it, then you use it, if you don't, then you don't. Plain and simple. I agree it should be prohibited but its not yet atleast. That's all.

 

[slammed180]

Let me be even more clear in one short statement.

The only reason we don't expressly prohibit the tuning of brake balance, or any tuning that is allowed by the half baked "tuning prohibited" feature, is because we don't have a way to enforce the rule. That would be like putting a prisoner in a room with no locks and no guards and telling them to stay there. What do you think would happen?

Rest assured that if PD ever makes "tuning prohibited" really mean tuning prohibited, it will not be allowed in SNAIL.

This is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt, but are we all that meniacal that we can't race online and be honest? I mean, that's why I looked for a league, so I wouldn't be racing with jackasses. If it's a rule, even one that can't be enforced, it should be honoured by everyone. And like most said, those "improvements", usually make the cars handle worse. It would be fairly obvious to see if one or two out of the pack has a car not behaving like the rest. but again, just my .02.

This escalated quickly, eh? lol

 

[Mirado_7]

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Been a couple pages, but we are still going in here, if anyone is looking for practice.

 

[jobyone]

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Been a couple pages, but we are still going in here, if anyone is looking for practice.

I think you have been practicing longer than I get in an entire Month

 

[speer9892003]

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Can't say I would mind having one of these since I just ordered myself a G27. Refurbished but hopefully it will do.

 

[Nish]

Arm wrestle you for it .

 

[aliengamer25]

Can't say I would mind having one of these since I just ordered myself a G27. Refurbished but hopefully it will do.

How much did you pay and where did you order it?

 

[Wolfsatz]

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That they do. But under the context of that rule, they are neither a cheat or a bug. They are something that is allowed by the game, and allowed in Open Lobby where tuning is prohibited. If adjusting BB was done by hacking the game somehow, then yes, that would apply directly.

Also, if it is a "bug", one that is widely known about no less, why has it not been addressed or fixed by PD? the fact that it remains without a patch would leave me to believe its not a bug, and the developers full intent.

You sound just like one of my employees, in which I cannot just give general guidance in which 99% complies fine without issue; yet there is that 1% in which you have to modify, create SOPs, Work Instructions, etc. etc. because common sense is not as common.

Are you a Clintonite?

 

[speer9892003]

How much did you pay and where did you order it?

Got it off of EBay from someone I have purchased many items from before. Paid $55.00 for it so if it craps out so only I didn't pay a lot. I could afford it so I went with it.

 

[slammed180]

Y


You sound just like one of my employees, in which I cannot just give general guidance in which 99% complies fine without issue; yet there is that 1% in which you have to modify, create SOPs, Work Instructions, etc. etc. because common sense is not as common.

Are you a Clintonite?

is this necessary? you sound like a bigot. F.O.

 

[Neovre]

We need a weekday shenanigans thread lol

 

[speer9892003]

is this necessary? you sound like a bigot. F.O.

It may not be my place to say, but I don't think the F.O. was necessary here.

 

[Wolfsatz]

It may not be my place to say, but I don't think the F.O. was necessary here.

well that depends on your definition of F.O.
Friday On! Yes I will be practicing tonight and with no BB or Chasis Reinforcement.



post script. why ask questions then argue about the answers and interpretations of it?


the answers given to you are in no way meant to insult you or anyone by any means but to bring much needed humor to a dull topic. the one arguing about; is you, multiple answers have been given to fulfill your original question; yet you ask for post No.1 to be changed, edited added, etc.
Fine idea; yet it takes someone which is not even able to race anymore in his own series to do that work just to satisfy that 1% of the so called ambiguity. Also, everyone is more than free to speak freely in which I have without insulting you, the one that has resorted to deviant language is not me.

if humor insults you, then OMG!

 

[slammed180]

Your only reply to my rebutle is an insult to me? Very professional Wolfsatz.

 

[slammed180]

It may not be my place to say, but I don't think the F.O. was necessary here.

Probably not. apologies.

 

[jobyone]

Guys take it offline please

 

[speer9892003]

[quoteslammed180, post: 9575919, member: 254942"]Probably not. apologies.[/quote]

It's ok. Just don't want to see anyone in trouble or thrown out over something as little as this. Yes, it is a lot of our hobbies, yes we take it seriously and with great pride, and yes we all love it. However at the end of the day we got full enjoyment out of racing against great people. Win or lose, we choose to do it and at the end of the day we having a feeling of enjoying what we do. No one gets paid to be here. We do it because we love it and choose to.

 

[slammed180]

well that depends on your definition of F.O.
Friday On! Yes I will be practicing tonight and with no BB or Chasis Reinforcement.



post script. why ask questions then argue about the answers and interpretations of it?


the answers given to you are in no way meant to insult you or anyone by any means but to bring much needed humor to a dull topic. the one arguing about; is you, multiple answers have been given to fulfill your original question; yet you ask for post No.1 to be changed, edited added, etc.
Fine idea; yet it takes someone which is not even able to race anymore in his own series to do that work just to satisfy that 1% of the so called ambiguity. Also, everyone is more than free to speak freely in which I have without insulting you, the one that has resorted to deviant language is not me.

if humor insults you, then OMG!

First off, humor is subjective. I don't call having my common sense questioned in a public forum to be funny.

Second, How am I to know who is around, or who isn't? I just joined this damn league! as I'm sure there will be many others joining and wondering the same as I or even suggesting the same as I, I thought it might help save asking and answering the same questions over and over. OMGLOLWUTAMIRITE?

 

[scca_ziptie]

I will put down my popcorn and make a comment:

Just leave the car (whichever it is) stock except for the tires that are specified for the according race and do the oil change.

When the Academy starts, if you are planning on participating of course, check and see if you can modify brake bias and then adjust it if you need/want.

When racing in single player, I definitely adjust the brake bias, typicall 3/2 on front and mid engine cars as it makes the car "dance" under braking quite nicely and helps me to rotate the car during heavy braking applications and also when trail braking. But when I read the SNAIL rules (just joined this week), I interpreted this as something to leave on the stock 5/5 setting - which I have done and seems to be working fine for me, so I'm sure it will for others as well. I know I can't be that special.


Cheers and RACE ON,

Don

 

[zer05ive]

First of the banners. I'll have the other one done tonight or tmrw.

Photo credit goes to @RobbiefromBC

Thanks! Lineup post updated. 👍

Also, thanks for crediting @RobbiefromBC. That definitely help me out.

 

[Wolfsatz]

@zer05ive
not to impose more work than you already have. But your link of TEAM SNAIL gets me this::
"You need permission"
I may have misbehaved but is that supposed to be locked for viewing?

 

[zer05ive]

Let me be even more clear in one short statement.

The only reason we don't expressly prohibit the tuning of brake balance, or any tuning that is allowed by the half baked "tuning prohibited" feature, is because we don't have a way to enforce the rule. That would be like putting a prisoner in a room with no locks and no guards and telling them to stay there. What do you think would happen?

Rest assured that if PD ever makes "tuning prohibited" really mean tuning prohibited, it will not be allowed in SNAIL.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact that you can enter a tuned car in a tuning prohibited room is a bug that PD just has not addressed. If there was a way to see the brake balance settings of a car, any adjustment would constitute a violation of the OLR under section 01. Rule O.

Today's discussion on brake balance feels like deja vu all over again!

@JLBowler to clarify, brake balance settings can be seen in replays (at least they could in GT5). The reason they can't be "policed" is because the replays don't show if a driver changes his brake balance once the green flag drops. Therefore, anyone could start the race at the default 5/5 setting, but we'd never know if he changed it after the race started. This post (just a few down from the one I linked above) sums it up.

 

[JLBowler]

Today's discussion on brake balance feels like deja vu all over again!

@JLBowler to clarify, brake balance settings can be seen in replays (at least they could in GT5). The reason they can't be "policed" is because the replays don't show if a driver changes his brake balance once the green flag drops. Therefore, anyone could start the race at the default 5/5 setting, but we'd never know if he changed it after the race started. This post (just a few down from the one I linked above) sums it up.

That just gave me an idea. Does the RA menu even work properly in GT6. I had heard that it did not but have not tested it in any way. If it doesn't allow things to be changed on the fly, but can be accessed in a replay like it was in GT5 then PD just gave us a bug to allow us to police something that can't be policed due to another of their bugs. I will have to test later tonight.

 

[deaconblues82]

Today's discussion on brake balance feels like deja vu all over again!

@JLBowler to clarify, brake balance settings can be seen in replays (at least they could in GT5). The reason they can't be "policed" is because the replays don't show if a driver changes his brake balance once the green flag drops. Therefore, anyone could start the race at the default 5/5 setting, but we'd never know if he changed it after the race started. This post (just a few down from the one I linked above) sums it up.

Not to say you're wrong because I'm not 100% sure, but aren't the R/A menus unusable in a tuning prohibited room?

 

[scca_ziptie]

Not to say you're wrong because I'm not 100% sure, but aren't the R/A menus unusable in a tuning prohibited room?

Yes they are, no "on the fly" adjustments can be made.

 

[CoachMK21]

That just gave me an idea. Does the RA menu even work properly in GT6. I had heard that it did not but have not tested it in any way. If it doesn't allow things to be changed on the fly, but can be accessed in a replay like it was in GT5 then PD just gave us a bug to allow us to police something that can't be policed due to another of their bugs. I will have to test later tonight.

Whatcha talkin' about Willis?

Can't say I would mind having one of these since I just ordered myself a G27. Refurbished but hopefully it will do.

Just quoting this, because it is AWESOME.

 

[scca_ziptie]

Whatcha talkin' about Willis?

The R/A is the description that was given to the "manetinno" aka the red circular adjustment knob found on the DFGT. I have them setup with a series of buttons on the T500 for F1 2012 and single player GT6.

 

[CoachMK21]

The R/A is the description that was given to the "manetinno" aka the red circular adjustment knob found on the DFGT. I have them setup with a series of buttons on the T500 for F1 2012 and single player GT6.

Oh. I suppose I should have phrased it like this, [SARCASM]Whatcha talkin' about Willis?[/SARCASM]. It's all good. I was more referring to his multiple references to policing something that can't be policed, etc.

 

[Wolfsatz]

Oh. I suppose I should have phrased it like this, [SARCASM]Whatcha talkin' about Willis?[/SARCASM]. It's all good. I was more referring to his multiple references to policing something that can't be policed, etc.

If I could only fit this on my Sig.