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[abm89]

My assumption was the car has a full tank, which seems to be supported by the car’s fuel gauge reading.

When everyone meets in turn 1 and waits for the qualifying message to start qually, how do you burn off fuel? If you do anything but drive to the first turn and sit, you would be in violation of the rules.

hold the handbrake and gas. It's a minimal amount as it re-calculates when you get going again.

Technically it does. This was taken from the OLR

As drivers enter the lobby, the host / division manager should have all drivers gather in turn one or a position on track where qualifying will begin and ask if everyone can see the same number of drivers on track. Drivers must be on the track for this and not sitting in the pits. If all drivers don't see the same number of drivers the host should ask those drivers to leave and rejoin while the host waits to start the night. Drivers should not be using this time to run laps or go and drift other parts of the course. Just go sit in turn one and let everyone count so we can get started.

Based on what i mentioned above, that's not violating the rule you posted.

 

[Sean Renon]

My assumption was the car has a full tank, which seems to be supported by the car’s fuel gauge reading.

I haven't actually confirmed, but it would be pretty simple to tell by going on LeMans no chicane and timing yourself along the back stretch with fuel wear set to x1 and fuel set off.

My instincts tell me the car is much lighter with fuel consumption off and goes faster, the fuel gauge is basically a lie.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

Cars are noticeably faster with fuel consumption off. Given no other variables and without getting into the particulars of where and how they are faster, the why is clearly because of reduced weight.

 

[Shotgungho]

I just ran straight line 3 straight line runs with fuel on and 3 runs with it off. There was practically no difference in speed. The variation (less than 3 mph) was easily attributable to the starts.

 

[Neutty]

hold the handbrake and gas. It's a minimal amount as it re-calculates when you get going again.




Based on what i mentioned above, that's not violating the rule you posted.

How else would the fuel be burned off?
If you park like it says in the OLR then you can’t burn fuel off. It simply states park it and stay.

Am I missing something?

 

[abm89]

How else would the fuel be burned off?
If you park like it says in the OLR then you can’t burn fuel off. It simply states park it and stay.

Am I missing something?

You can burn fuel in a stationary state.....

 

[Jw_wk1010]

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How else would the fuel be burned off?
If you park like it says in the OLR then you can’t burn fuel off. It simply states park it and stay.

Am I missing something?

Think what he is saying is if you park you can put the car in neutral put it on the Rev limiter and burned fuel and technically you are following the olr because you are parked

 

[TomMang_68]

I’m for anything that will curb “cheating” and elimination of loopholes.

 

[JLBowler]

I might not go so far as to call it cheating. It's definitely living in the grey area and there are quite a few general rules in the OLR that you could be considered to be running afoul of by sitting there burning fuel trying to gain an advantage by lowering the weight of your car.

It really doesn't matter as it's now a moot point with fuel consumption turned off.

 

[Neutty]

I agree with JL it doesn’t matter anymore. But I will say I think the car has to be rolling for fuel to actually burn off. Or at least the rear tires must be spinning.

I’m guilty of trying to burn some fuel off but I never get the gauge to move. Besides I don’t think if it was even at x1 that you can burn enough off to gain any type of advantage.

 

[Herimopp89]

I might not go so far as to call it cheating. It's definitely living in the grey area and there are quite a few general rules in the OLR that you could be considered to be running afoul of by sitting there burning fuel trying to gain an advantage by lowering the weight of your car.

It really doesn't matter as it's now a moot point with fuel consumption turned off.

I have only been around 2 months or so and I don't see the big issue personally I do agree about turning it off...but yet how much can someone burn off with fuel usage at 1. Even in most races fuel consumption is so low after 12 mins of hard racing your lucky to burn a 1/4 tank of gas...to me though I don't get what the fuss is about though. I just think any gain would be minuscule to say the least

 

[Sean Renon]

I agree with JL it doesn’t matter anymore. But I will say I think the car has to be rolling for fuel to actually burn off. Or at least the rear tires must be spinning.

I’m guilty of trying to burn some fuel off but I never get the gauge to move. Besides I don’t think if it was even at x1 that you can burn enough off to gain any type of advantage.

Revving the car does burn fuel. I noticed because a long time ago in an FIA race I started with 98% fuel because I was revving the car out in the staging part where they show you each car.

 

[Rednose58]

I won't be attempting to do liveries anymore. My game crashed three times today while in livery mode. Didn't lose much in the first two crashes, but quite a bit in the third crash. For now, only the Beemer and the Dodge will have liveries. Sorry NSX, you and future cars will just have to eat it up.

 

[JamCar0ne]

I won't be attempting to do liveries anymore. My game crashed three times today while in livery mode. Didn't lose much in the first two crashes, but quite a bit in the third crash. For now, only the Beemer and the Dodge will have liveries. Sorry NSX, you and future cars will just have to eat it up.

Do you report the crashes when they happen? I do every time I get the blue screen of death from GT Sport. It seems like the issues disappear or get resolved when I do so. Plus, a premier title like GTS shouldn't crash anyway.

 

[Rednose58]

Do you report the crashes when they happen? I do every time I get the blue screen of death from GT Sport. It seems like the issues disappear or get resolved when I do so. Plus, a premier title like GTS shouldn't crash anyway.

Yep, I report

 

[Marcus Garvey]

Heh

 

[Rob Brown]

I won't be attempting to do liveries anymore. My game crashed three times today while in livery mode. Didn't lose much in the first two crashes, but quite a bit in the third crash. For now, only the Beemer and the Dodge will have liveries. Sorry NSX, you and future cars will just have to eat it up.

That would definitely irritate me (gross understatement). Liveries can take hours.
I had issues this evening, among which, not being able to start my own lobby. That’s GT Spurt, I guess.

 

[ChauncyMarsh]

So my GTEYE spring arrived in the mail today and I popped it into the G29 brake pedal. Quite a different feel from the G27 brake pedal that I used over the last few months and also very different from the old G29 with the rubber bump stop.

The best way to describe the difference is as follows:
- With the G27 pedals - if you want to increase the brake power you press the pedal in deeper by simply moving your foot down. The feeling is that you control the brake power by positioning the pedal. The spring rate is linear and not very stiff. So you don't need a lot of force to press it in.

- With the GTEYE spring - The sensation is more like you have to apply more pressure to increase brake power or release the pressure to reduce the brake power. Much better sensation. All because the spring is progressive and the initial spring rate is also higher than the G27 / G29 standard spring.

For me it is not going to make a big difference in GTSport because I'm always on ABS, but it will (and I tested it tonight) definitely help a lot in PCars2 where we have a lot of cars where ABS is not available. You can regulate the brake pressure much better.

I believe @Oshawa-Joe and @TEX36 (and a few others) have the GTEYE and I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

Thanks for the update. At risk of being a dumb question: I assume you took out the rubber stopper when you installed the Gteye?

 

[Rednose58]

Thanks for the update. At risk of being a dumb question: I assume you took out the rubber stopper when you installed the Gteye?

Correct. That rubber stopper is a bad thing.

 

[BradESPN]

I'm thinking about making another run at the SNAIL Rider Cup (last time I tried, the Canadians were too scared). Check out the page linked above for details, but from a logistics point of view here's what it would look like:

Date/Time: Sunday, November 4th @ 5:30 (EST)
Combos: The three combos that end up being chosen for Sunday Night that week (this way the Rider Cup can also serve as a practice session)
Awards: Custom decal awarded to all members of the winning nation (designed by yours truly so don't get too excited)

If this sounds like something you'd be interested in, like this post and/or head over to the dedicated thread.

 

[vsfit]

That would definitely irritate me (gross understatement). Liveries can take hours.
I had issues this evening, among which, not being able to start my own lobby. That’s GT Spurt, I guess.

Over 200 of my custom built shapes/logos and designs disappeared after the last update. I clicked on them the first time following the update and nothing, just gone. Anyone that was using them no longer has access to them as well. I'm gonna try adding them back over the weekend.

 

[DublDee]

I have only been around 2 months or so and I don't see the big issue personally I do agree about turning it off...but yet how much can someone burn off with fuel usage at 1. Even in most races fuel consumption is so low after 12 mins of hard racing your lucky to burn a 1/4 tank of gas...to me though I don't get what the fuss is about though. I just think any gain would be minuscule to say the least

Wow I'm not sure what to think about all this..... I agree with Herimopp89 that it can't be much of an advantage but C'mon I mean we are just a bunch of friendly(the majority anyway), non-professional, race enthusiasts who joined this league to find a clean, but yet competitive place to race, where everyone is on the same playing field, where your only advantage is driver skill, yet we still run into people trying to get unfair advantages through technicalities, or grey area's of the rules!
IMO That's not what this league is all about, and we should all be playing by the rules 100%, and if you're not sure about something, ASK!

 

[Rob Brown]

https://blog.us.playstation.com/201...re-entering-playstation-preview-program-soon/
PSN online ID change.
For idiots like me (rkzjb04) who thought when they took out a PSN ID, that it was only to register for online access. I did it for my boys in 2004 when PSN online was free for PS3. I had no idea of the consequences. Those consequences, I would learn over the next 10 years, for example; what you could do with a primary play station console and what you could do with a second play station console, what other users could do via using the registered PSN ID for online access using only the primary console, etc. All of which only became apparent through trial and error (with emphasis on the error side).
Seems one has to be an I.T. professional to have any chance to navigate.

 

[Rednose58]

Don't forget about the SNAIL Invitational Event tomorrow evening for those who were invited.

 

[ChauncyMarsh]

https://blog.us.playstation.com/201...re-entering-playstation-preview-program-soon/
PSN online ID change.
For idiots like me (rkzjb04) who thought when they took out a PSN ID, that it was only to register for online access. I did it for my boys in 2004 when PSN online was free for PS3. I had no idea of the consequences. Those consequences, I would learn over the next 10 years, for example; what you could do with a primary play station console and what you could do with a second play station console, what other users could do via using the registered PSN ID for online access using only the primary console, etc. All of which only became apparent through trial and error (with emphasis on the error side).
Seems one has to be an I.T. professional to have any chance to navigate.

I'm one of the idiots that made his name a weed reference and, 10 years later (and no longer a weed head), laments it every time he logs in. I've been in all the recent betas so will be checking this out tonight. They let you keep your old name next to your new one if you want, but that is also a permanent (unless you pay $) addition. I will not be doing that. Se4n2s0si will be some variant of Chauncy from here on out.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

I agree with the above from Dubldee. The intent and atmosphere promoted within the league demonstrate that.

That said, my experience prevents me from allowing myself to forget that competitive people are going to compete. While I've been distanced for a while, there have always been at least two or three different mindsets shared within the league regarding the level of seriousness and level of competition. Each division even has its own 'feel' so to speak, and what is and isn't considered faux pas can vary. There are already a number of uh....things....that have an appreciable benefit to lap times that are employable under the current ruleset. Each car and track combo reacts differently to certain variables. If I were to compete, I would be 'testing' on a weekly basis just like the old days. And no, I'm not simply talking about brake bias.

 

[Neutty]

What kind of effect will this name change have on our league and policies of the name change? @JLBowler

 

[JLBowler]

What kind of effect will this name change have on our league and policies of the name change? @JLBowler

Same as a name change works now. If you change your PSN ID, it needs to be done at the start of a season and your stats from the old ID will not carry over to the new ID unless the guy that built the stats sheet @msgt-sd could make something work. It wouldn't be a high priority to get that working but never say never.

 

[Shotgungho]

I don't think the name change will apply to GTS because it came out in 2017...so prior to April 2018.

 

[vsfit]

Same as a name change works now. If you change your PSN ID, it needs to be done at the start of a season and your stats from the old ID will not carry over to the new ID unless the guy that built the stats sheet @msgt-sd could make something work. It wouldn't be a high priority to get that working but never say never.

Would the name change have any repercussions on the amount of shells we currently hold?