13-year-old twins sing songs of hate

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Abduction, and the way you spoke about it before made it seem like rape...
Zardoz
No, not at all. Wide exposure of something like this always results in its destruction. For every individual who is sympathetic with them, there are great numbers who are repulsed. Ever seen cockroaches scatter when a light is turned on? Same thing will happen with these people and their sympathizers.

The lives of these girls, and their monstrous parents, will steadily deteriorate as their story becomes more widely publicized.
This is true, but some people, usually the infamous ones, thrive off any publicity, bad or good. So this could be having the reverse effect, and they could be enjoying every minute of the publicity they're receiving. I would think that those who are trying to bring across such a message of white supremacy would be overjoyed with the attention their "message" is getting.
 
That would go against the whole purpose jimmy. I would want to show them to love all people so I ould be really nice to them. Not hurt them. I dont belive at 13 you can truly hate someoen or something that hasnt done anything to you other than what one or two people tell you. Im sure I could soon turn them around.
 
Mmm, I see the general jist of what you're trying to say, but the way you worded your post made it seem a little different than I think you intended.

Never mind.
 
I actually watched this story on Primetime Live last Thursday and when the interviewer asked them about Hitler and they called him a great man she asked about his killing 6 million Jews and one of them said, "I think that's an exaggeration. I doubt there were even that many Jews in the world at that time."

That was what got me truly angry but it got even worse when I saw the video of them playing "dance around the swastika."

My only fear is that by being on the news some fanatic feeling just the opposite will find them and try to harm them in some way so that the hate they have been taught will be (unjustly) verified.
 
* this post went a little over the edge, so I self-moderated it *

(hint: it had to do with twins in porn, 5 years from now, with a black male porn star)
 
Its really sad I wanna see more of them. I want to see em on a stage along side a oiled up usher or someone thats a very charming and non white and see if the girls can resist.
 
This is actually funny to me. Because I know they aren't 100% white. So, are they proud of their non white background as well?
 
Young_Warrior
elaborate.

The possibility of a person being 100% any specific race in this day and age living in America is almost zero. Hense, these girls have some indian, african, asian, south american race in their blood. So, how would they feel about that?
 
FoolKiller
...by being on the news some fanatic feeling just the opposite will find them and try to harm them in some way...

That's an example of the sort of thing I'm talking about. This story will not have a happy ending. Life is going to get real crappy for those two and their so-called "parents".
 
FoolKiller
I actually watched this story on Primetime Live last Thursday and when the interviewer asked them about Hitler and they called him a great man she asked about his killing 6 million Jews and one of them said, "I think that's an exaggeration. I doubt there were even that many Jews in the world at that time."
Ohh well... Nothing like a little denial here and there...


FoolKiller
That was what got me truly angry but it got even worse when I saw the video of them playing "dance around the swastika."
That's the funniest songtitle in a long time...

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How anyone can take these moronic egocentric in-denial-living little b******* serious - That's what scares me the most...
 
Flerbizky
That's the funniest songtitle in a long time...
No, not a song, a game. They made a swastika on the kitchen floor with electrical tape and were holding hands dancing around it kind of like ring around the rosie. Very, very disturbing to see 14 year old girls doing that.
 
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I would love to meet their parents and entertain them. I seriously hate this little b!tches now especially after having read some of the extremist sites when searching for prussian blue.
 
Young_Warrior
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I would love to meet their parents and entertain them. I seriously hate this little b!tches now especially after having read some of the extremist sites when searching for prussian blue.
That's very cute... Will make for some nice Xmess cards...

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Man.. I wanna beat those to brats into pulp soooo bad...
 
Young_Warrior

Well, they had better get on a boat headed out of here because their ancestors "immigrated" to this country. So I guess that makes them about the biggest hypocrites and two faced people in the country. Sheesh...
 
Swift
Well, they had better get on a boat headed out of here because their ancestors "immigrated" to this country. So I guess that makes them about the biggest hypocrites and two faced people in the country. Sheesh...
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Wow...just wow. Interesting article, I've never even heard of them before.

Anyway, reading this reminded me of another article I recently ran into:

Group opposed to homosexuality protests at funeral for fallen soldier

Toni-Lee Scarano, Contributing Writer
October 12, 2005

Inside Grace Lutheran Church last Wednesday family and friends of fallen Ripon soldier Sergeant Andrew Wallace grieved. Outside, others stood with signs with messages including 'America is doomed,' 'God hates you,' 'Your pastor is a whore' and 'Thank God for dead soldiers.'

The protesters were part of the anti-gay organization, the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), which believes God is punishing America for supporting homosexuality.

"It was hard to take in," says junior Liz Molitor, who witnessed the protest. "I had heard about the group before, but I never imagined it all to be this graphic."

The graphicness of the display was furthered by the difficulty many faced in understanding the connection between an anti-gay message and Wallace's funeral.

Wallace, 25, of Ripon, was stationed in Kuwait as part of the Appleton-based unit known as the Red Arrow Brigade. His and a fellow guard member's deaths were the result of a roadside bomb.

At the funeral wake, the protesters spread out along a designated area in front of the church, each of the five members wearing a T-shirt with the words God Hates Fags written across their chest.

"Our purpose is to cause America to know her abominations," says Shirley Phelps, one of the protesters, who held signs and cited Bible scripture with her two sons, Noah, 5, and Gabriel, 7. "We're helping America to connect the dots to see that since they've turned this country over to fags, now they're coming home in..." Phelps' son Noah proudly cuts in to finish the statement, "...body bags."

The Phelps' are from Topeka, Ka., but travel around the country to protest. The protesting is in an effort to follow the mission of their church, listed on the Westboro Baptist Church's website, located at www.godhatesfags.com, to show the world "the Gospel truth about the soul-damning, nation-destroying notion that 'it is okay to be gay'"

The organization was founded by Shirley Phelp's father, Fred Phelps, in 1955 and has been publicly present ever since WBC protested the funeral of Matthew Shepard in 1998. Shepard was a young gay man who was brutally murdered because of his sexuality, and WBC's presence at his funeral gained the group national notoriety for the first time, says Jody Roy, associate professor of communication, who specializes in the communication strategies of social movements.

"Too often we think of hate as somebody else's problem because we are not a target, at least at the moment," says Roy. "When a group like WBC comes to a town like Ripon to disrupt the funeral services of a young teacher killed serving his country, it's a wake up call. It can happen here."

From her research, Roy is able to offer insight into how this group operates.

"WBC and many other counter-conspiracy groups view themselves as God's agents, believing they have been given unique insights into reality," she says. "Counter-conspiracy groups, or groups who believe they are reacting to a conspiracy of threat to their people, normally express their arguments in tightly constructed webs of logic. Although to outsiders, the gaps [in their logic] are quite obvious, those gaps close in around people who take the leap of faith into the web. The logic of a conspiracy theory can appear perfect."

Much of the logic the WBC bases its anti-gay stance on is biblical text. At Wallace's service, the protesters continually quoted Bible verses.

"This nation has holy apostatized," says Timothy Phelps, Fred Phelps' youngest son, "We came up to Wisconsin to answer a loud lie being told: God bless America. Fags are going to Hell for eternity. They deserve that. Here's a reality check: if God can bless America, God can curse America."

These and other conclusions drawn by WBC are the result of the interpretations of the Bible. The group focuses on passages from the Old Testament, which they say indicate homosexuality is punishable by death.

However, Brian Smith, professor of religion says direct conclusions can't necessarily be drawn from these passages.

"Jesus never mentioned homosexuals or people who condone it," says Smith. "There is no way this group can scripturally justify the killing of American soldiers as God's punishment to our country for allowing gay and lesbian rights."

Smith believes the WBC to be a dangerous group because they use anger and pain to gain publicity, especially at funerals of soldiers. "That should be a time of love and support for the families of the fallen in battle," says Smith. "Compassion is the first and foremost Christian obligation. This group is re-writing the Bible."

Although the arguments made and harsh words given by the protesters were troublesome for most onlookers, many were most shocked by Noah and Gabriel, happily protesting alongside their mother.

When asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, Noah, 5, responded with excitement, "A fag hater."

His mother, Shirley Phelps, smiled lovingly and laughed in response.

Although many attending Wallace's visitation found the demonstration shocking, others hardly even noticed the small group and some refused to allow hate to influence them.

"Hate is learned and, as such, is cyclical," says Roy. "My research has taught me that the best way to prevent hatred is to interrupt the cycle. Because many of the underlying thought processes of hatred are fallacious, developing critical thinking skills is one of the best long-term prevention strategies."

Roy continues, "The challenge is to remember that when protesters aren't in town, we must live, behave and speak everyday as if tomorrow we too might be the target. It's hard to be apathetic about hate when you remind yourself you too could be a victim."otion that 'it is okay to be gay.'"

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Link: http://www.riponcollegedays.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434addb3491e3

Pretty ****ing disgusting, huh? I was genuinely pissed after reading this, still am.

EDIT: Added the picture in case the article gets taken down later.
 
It's sad - tragic, even. They're gonna hold these beliefs their whole life.
 
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Wow...just wow. Interesting article, I've never even heard of them before.

Anyway, reading this reminded me of another article I recently ran into:



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Link: http://www.riponcollegedays.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/12/434addb3491e3

Pretty ****ing disgusting, huh? I was genuinely pissed after reading this, still am.

EDIT: Added the picture in case the article gets taken down later.

This is just the sickest garbage. How can you say your a christian and HATE people? It's an oxymoron and a logical contradiction. This is the kind of stuff that makes all christians look like heartless, ignorant animals. Jesus FORGAVE people, he didn't go around condeming people(except for the pharasies that said they were godly).

Young_Warrior
So many f'ed up people in this world yet it seems you guys got the main share of them of all the 1st world countries.

We've got the main share of the ones that get the press.
 
^^^ It's just as valid to say that got hates homosexuals and is punishing us for allowing them to exist as it is to say that God was punishing the sinners in NO when he created hurricane katrina and set it toward them.
 
danoff
^^^ It's just as valid to say that got hates homosexuals and is punishing us for allowing them to exist as it is to say that God was punishing the sinners in NO when he created hurricane katrina and set it toward them.

No it's not.

God hates nobody. If he did, why would Jesus have died? Why would God GIVE his only son so that man can be redeemed and then turn around and start judging them.

Sorry, that is not a valid statement. I can see how it works if you just use the concept of a god. But the God, the God of the bible, doesn't work that way.
 
Young_Warrior
If there is a god and he made the world who made god?

And the lord said, "Let there be two threads that deal with that subject, the Creation thread and the religion thread" and it was so.

Let's not take this thing grossly off topic huh?
 
people just pick and chose what parts of the bible they want to take literally to try and justify actions and beliefs 👎

those girls have lived a life surrounded by racist people. if someone told them the sky was purple all their lives. they'd believe it was. of course this is a bit more complex than colors.
 
First of all, i wanna say that these girls are in for a reality check one of these days. Secondly, regarding the soldiers' funeral, every religion has its extremists, and sadly, Fred Phelps is Christianitys' extremist.



The man is a lunatic-nuff said.
 
Needless to say...the picture of them holding the "Thank God for dead soldiers" is NOT the same God that mainstream and even fundamental Christianity worships...

Tip for you guys, if you ever see these guys, they aren't representing the real God...but a false god they wanted to make up in their minds...

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

They may appear to represent mainstream Christianity...but i have news for you, THEY DONT. We would classify that perhaps as a c-u-l-t in today's language.
 
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