2.4 million copies in 4 days, GT5 sales archives its sales objectives (Kotaku jp)

[Zoom!Zoom!]

I think this proves no one reads reviews anymore, reviews mean nothing these days if you ask me. Podcasts, YouTube, Twitter etc no need for reviews!

Reviews are for us hardcore gamers. Causal gamers does not seem to nitpick as much. Does Kinect work perfectly? No Yet casual gamers are having a lot of fun with it. We are the minority who spend time at Gtplanet , read review, buy a $300 wheel just for Gt5,etc.

 

[bevo]

Most of my friends/family bought black ops, i've yet to convince 1 of my friends to buy GT5. quite disapointed with nobody to race but myself, but its all good

I'm in the same boat as you. All of my gaming friends bought COD, but I am the only GT5 player. I for one skipped COD at least until christmas. The only reason I'm getting it is to play with my son when he gets it.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

First week sales numbers were bound to be big, GT5 can survive on hype alone for that, and pre-orders. What will be interesting, is considering it's lukewarm reception nearly everywhere, how much steam it has in the long run. Say, six months to a year from now.

People are toeing the line in here, I'd hope they can take a step back with the "retarded" comments and text speak.

 

[evilfoxhound]

wait black ops is considered a garbage game? Have any of you actually played it? It's very well programmed and extremely fun. Not nearly as many bugs as GT5 and it was made at fraction of the cost and time as GT5.

can't believe someone actually called COD garbage when 90% of people playing GT5 are disappointed.

If Black Ops is so good, then why are there so many people demading a refund?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-24-users-demand-ps3-black-ops-refund

It's utter ****e. The PS3 version barely runs past 40fps and constantly locks up online. It also runs in sub-hd.

 

[Sivakis]

The sales figures are not surprising. A lot of people have bought the PS3 since 2006 simply because of GT5 only to have to wait up to 4 years+ for the title, so there are a lot of "hungry" owners out there.

 

[t.o.]

The next one is the one they will need to worry about selling.

Took the words right out of my mouth. They better do some jaw dropping updating between now and then and get rid of this.....

 

[evilfoxhound]

Took the words right out of my mouth. They better do some jaw dropping updating between now and then and get rid of this.....

Now play it on "advanced"

 

[Akira AC]

Took the words right out of my mouth. They better do some jaw dropping updating between now and then and get rid of this.....

vid

Read my comment on that video,besides that post is complete out of place,apart from that:

 

[bodger]

First week sales numbers were bound to be big, GT5 can survive on hype alone for that, and pre-orders. What will be interesting, is considering it's lukewarm reception nearly everywhere, how much steam it has in the long run. Say, six months to a year from now.

People are toeing the line in here, I'd hope they can take a step back with the "retarded" comments and text speak.

Compared with the competition the longer picture, it is already academic - GT5 has almost equaled Forza 3's total sales to date in the first week of it being on sale.

 

[GreatServant]

COD is available on pc/xbox/ps, yet GT always on ps only. comparing the two is not quite fair, but still, GT is doing pretty good.

GT1 - 10.85m
GT2 - 9.37m
GT3 - 14.89m
GT4 - 11.12m
GT5P - 5.09m

COD4 sold 14 Million
W@W sold 11 Million
MW2 sold 20 Million

by the way, it took one month for forza3 to reach 1 million. not really in the same league I guess.

 

[Devedander]

As has been sad before you can't draw much info from sales numbers... I mean look at pop music and where the sales numbers are... do you know how many tickets got sold to Twighlight movies?

And in the case of GT5 I would say sales numbers show how well the hype sold... which was very well... even today we still have people who are just finding out about standard cars, missing damage and the bevy of other issues...

As I said before, Madden could release absolute garbage and it would be two or three years before the sales numbers dropped dramatically...

Read my comment on that video,besides that post is complete out of place,apart from that:

It's interesting, what I see from that video is that the AI in Forza seems more animated or dynamic somehow and that in GT it seems to be the standard "tube of cars" sort of driving... the two times the car crashed in Forza was a situation where they came two wide and the car on the left was in a bad spot, you could almost imagine the drivers face going "Crap we gotta split this idiot sitting in the middel of the track, he's going one way, I will go the other... oh crap, that's too tight, I gotta correct, gotta, gotta... oh CRAP!".

That said I rarely find these sitting still cars videos any good... what I am interested in is things like first corner pileups... I have seen collections of million Cr plus cars all smash into each other on the first tight corner of a track over and over like no ones business... I am also interested in how they respond to dynamic situatinos like a packed corner when someone spins out... all too often I end up with people drving through me when the obvious thing to do is to STOP accelerating hard, slow down a bit and drive around... but no...

That's the kind of AI that interests me...

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Compared with the competition the longer picture, it is already academic - GT5 has almost equaled Forza 3's total sales to date in the first week of it being on sale.

I don't think many people ever questioned that. The question is if this game will sell as well as its predecessors with its reception generally being the lowest of the series. The initial rush is one thing; how much staying power GT5 has on the charts down the road is a whole different kettle of fish.

Less than 3 pages in before the inevitable FM vs GT videos, I see. That might be a new record... so they can stop now.

 

[Fat_Stogie]

In america IMHO it flopped. On my friends list. I have 3 playing GT5, the other 14. COD Black ops.

then you know a lot of mindless fools. Cod is such garbage. I cant even comprehend why it dominates the way it does. I bought it, and like with all the CODs before i played it for a couple weeks then got bored.

Prestige? really? talk about a dumb sales gimmick. LOL sorry no. This game has WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more replay ability. There is no random happenstance. YOu can randomly shoot a guy in the back. But you cannot randomly win a race.

This game owns COD. Only people on my list playing COD are iether dumb and easily entertained, or younger than 20.


Plus in OP someone said "good for a game about cars." LOL sorry bro but the game is about racing. Not cars. Just sayin.

 

[GreatServant]

I do not understand why there are so many ppl out there complaining, and not to mention some of those unfair reviews.

Some reviewers and players are judging GT5 with exceptionally high standard, I believe mainly due to the long wait. Take IGN's review for example, 8.5?!?!?!?!?! There are disappointing things here and there, like the shadow, loading time for menus, online still not working nicely and so on. But hey, compare to graphics from other games that only offer half the
resolution, or even half the frame rate, no 3D support, half amount of
cars on road, no dynamic whether or time change, and blabla. Didn't bother to mention the physic in GT5 is way ahead all other racing games on console. However those lower spec games get better score than GT5?!?! That is just a joke to me. It only means that they are using different standard for GT5, a standard only apply to GT5 if you will.

It is good that there are still objective reviews out there giving much better score to the game though.

Any way, it is pretty clear to me that GT5 is still the best you can get
for now. it is the pinnacle in so many areas for this gen of console. and it will probably remain on top until GT6 come out, could be on PS4.

 

[gaming25]

It's interesting, what I see from that video is that the AI in Forza seems more animated or dynamic somehow and that in GT it seems to be the standard "tube of cars" sort of driving... the two times the car crashed in Forza was a situation where they came two wide and the car on the left was in a bad spot, you could almost imagine the drivers face going "Crap we gotta split this idiot sitting in the middel of the track, he's going one way, I will go the other... oh crap, that's too tight, I gotta correct, gotta, gotta... oh CRAP!".

That said I rarely find these sitting still cars videos any good... what I am interested in is things like first corner pileups... I have seen collections of million Cr plus cars all smash into each other on the first tight corner of a track over and over like no ones business... I am also interested in how they respond to dynamic situatinos like a packed corner when someone spins out... all too often I end up with people drving through me when the obvious thing to do is to STOP accelerating hard, slow down a bit and drive around... but no...

That's the kind of AI that interests me...

A vid with AI going in your way proves nothing, especially since expert drivers would easily avoid such a crash.

 

[Akira AC]

As has been sad before you can't draw much info from sales numbers... I mean look at pop music and where the sales numbers are... do you know how many tickets got sold to Twighlight movies?

And in the case of GT5 I would say sales numbers show how well the hype sold... which was very well... even today we still have people who are just finding out about standard cars, missing damage and the bevy of other issues...

As I said before, Madden could release absolute garbage and it would be two or three years before the sales numbers dropped dramatically...

Agreed is a matter of how the hype ends,but these results may not show up until a couple of months.

It's interesting, what I see from that video is that the AI in Forza seems more animated or dynamic somehow and that in GT it seems to be the standard "tube of cars" sort of driving... the two times the car crashed in Forza was a situation where they came two wide and the car on the left was in a bad spot, you could almost imagine the drivers face going "Crap we gotta split this idiot sitting in the middel of the track, he's going one way, I will go the other... oh crap, that's too tight, I gotta correct, gotta, gotta... oh CRAP!".

That said I rarely find these sitting still cars videos any good... what I am interested in is things like first corner pileups... I have seen collections of million Cr plus cars all smash into each other on the first tight corner of a track over and over like no ones business... I am also interested in how they respond to dynamic situatinos like a packed corner when someone spins out... all too often I end up with people drving through me when the obvious thing to do is to STOP accelerating hard, slow down a bit and drive around... but no...

That's the kind of AI that interests me...

Well I post that video in response since the original posted video shown a M5(long car)blocking that corner of eiger which is really short,while the FM3 was in Montserrat(I don't remember well the name) and the driver park in an area where there was not racing lines(I know is reverse layout but the guy on the video was quite away from the apex and the raceline.

I want to see(wish I could make) a proper video with both AI in full action,I'm starting to notice that the AI in GT5 is as always following the racing line while the AI is more aggressive(although I have to say that sometimes that aggressiveness becomes kamikaze in some situations),The only thing I know is that the TOCA 3 AI wins over these AI's.

 

[Jaydub757]

In america IMHO it flopped. On my friends list. I have 3 playing GT5, the other 14. COD Black ops.

Yep me too, just convinced my dude to buy it so I have 2 friends playing lol, everyone else is on COD and Madden 11, GT5 hasn't left my system since Wed. Madden is suffering right now!

 

[juwlzx5]

It's quite sad that there are fewer and fewer people who are into cars these days. The new craze is all about running on a field, killing as many people as you can. But it is expected. After all, were humans.

 

[gtfan4life]

In america IMHO it flopped. On my friends list. I have 3 playing GT5, the other 14. COD Black ops.

Especially when you consider Europe had 1.8 Million to America's just over 350,000 units Sold. I thought with the addition of Nascar and Kart racing, those numbers would be higher. Let's wait til after christmas and see if this improves.

 

[Turkey :D]

In America, 2/10 of my friends own a PS3. They play FIFA and Call of Duty.. The others have 360 and play FIFA and Call of Duty or play Call of Duty on the PC. I'm also the only one who bought GT5.

 

[t.o.]

It's interesting, what I see from that video is that the AI in Forza seems more animated or dynamic somehow and that in GT it seems to be the standard "tube of cars" sort of driving... the two times the car crashed in Forza was a situation where they came two wide and the car on the left was in a bad spot, you could almost imagine the drivers face going "Crap we gotta split this idiot sitting in the middel of the track, he's going one way, I will go the other... oh crap, that's too tight, I gotta correct, gotta, gotta... oh CRAP!".

That said I rarely find these sitting still cars videos any good... what I am interested in is things like first corner pileups... I have seen collections of million Cr plus cars all smash into each other on the first tight corner of a track over and over like no ones business... I am also interested in how they respond to dynamic situatinos like a packed corner when someone spins out... all too often I end up with people drving through me when the obvious thing to do is to STOP accelerating hard, slow down a bit and drive around... but no...

That's the kind of AI that interests me...

That's just about how I saw it. Enough "I" in the A.I. where it looks somewhat believable. All of the crashes I saw were where the driver didn't have a good view of what was going on or was in a no-win situation trying to make something out of nothing. I also notice the A.I. actually had a BRAKE and REVERSE gear, something I've yet to see in GT5. It's a weak point in the game and needs to be addressed. I just don't understand how a person who wants this to be the ultimate game can't agree on this. Obviously this is something that can be fixed because "the other" game already has it working so either PD refuses to fix it or can't. In either case it's a wart on an other wise decent game. I want this fixed because I want to enjoy an otherwise fine game but it's a royal pain dealing with them on the road. I actually started B-Spec tonight and trust me when I say that isn't a good thing. I might, if I'm lucky, get a whole lap where the game plays brilliantly and I'm in racing heaven. Got a great cockpit view, cars around me all close jockeying for position, physics as good as they are, it all comes together and I'm in the moment then with out fail BAM VIDEOGAME hits me and some guy from behind nails me for no rhyme or reason. Or the car in front of me decides "You know I haven't used these brakes in a few meters ,let me test them out right now in the most inappropriate situation" and then I'm out the moment.

 

[Vortech347]

then you know a lot of mindless fools. Cod is such garbage. I cant even comprehend why it dominates the way it does. I bought it, and like with all the CODs before i played it for a couple weeks then got bored.

Prestige? really? talk about a dumb sales gimmick. LOL sorry no. This game has WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more replay ability. There is no random happenstance. YOu can randomly shoot a guy in the back. But you cannot randomly win a race.

This game owns COD. Only people on my list playing COD are iether dumb and easily entertained, or younger than 20.


Plus in OP someone said "good for a game about cars." LOL sorry bro but the game is about racing. Not cars. Just sayin.

Who pissed in your cheerio's?

 

[Vortech347]

Especially when you consider Europe had 1.8 Million to America's just over 350,000 units Sold. I thought with the addition of Nascar and Kart racing, those numbers would be higher. Let's wait til after christmas and see if this improves.

Exactly my point.

 

[t.o.]

Especially when you consider Europe had 1.8 Million to America's just over 350,000 units Sold. I thought with the addition of Nascar and Kart racing, those numbers would be higher. Let's wait til after christmas and see if this improves.

It should improve no doubt but it's getting a "reputation" out there that needs to be handled. A good amount of people on my xbox friends list have PS3s but a good precentage have been reading about the game and have refrained from getting it. They ask me about it and I tell them to get it. I honestly tell them to get it BUT I explain the WHOLE good and the bad. Why? So they don't have to do like I'm doing and come to these boards and let it be known what's ticking them off about the game. I haven't played a GT game in years and even then it was usually in passing at someone else house. I had NO clue that the A.I. was like this and ,from what I'm now reading, been like this for a while.

I like to be informed of the good and the bad about a game before buying it. Then I can make an educated guess on whether I can deal with it or if I should move on. That's the problem these days, there's no voice of reason. You go to some forums and you swear if you threw the game in a tub of water it'll get up and walk on it, turn it into wine and turn the rubber ducky into fish with the soap being loaves of bread.

 

[Pesmerga7551]

That sucks, out of 44 friends on my list. I had 30 friends playing GT5 doing photoshoots, highway racing on SSR7 or just doing A Spec and asking questions in the text chat.

Seriously? Oh man, I knew GT5 was a flop. Only 30 people, psh..

 

[Tenacious D]

Less than 3 pages in before the inevitable FM vs GT videos, I see. That might be a new record... so they can stop now.

Might as well, that other game pretty much fell off the radar anyway.

I want this fixed because I want to enjoy an otherwise fine game but it's a royal pain dealing with them on the road. I actually started B-Spec tonight and trust me when I say that isn't a good thing. I might, if I'm lucky, get a whole lap where the game plays brilliantly and I'm in racing heaven. Got a great cockpit view, cars around me all close jockeying for position, physics as good as they are, it all comes together and I'm in the moment then with out fail BAM VIDEOGAME hits me and some guy from behind nails me for no rhyme or reason. Or the car in front of me decides "You know I haven't used these brakes in a few meters ,let me test them out right now in the most inappropriate situation" and then I'm out the moment.

Sounds like BTCC to me.

But seriously, I haven't been impressed with any racing game's A.I. The highly lauded GTR series has bots with the intelligence of ants. Every chicane turns into a car grinder as the bots all play "push the guy in front of me." And honestly, I've been rammed from behind whether I'm playing with bots or humans in about every racing game. GT5's bots are just as good as anyone's, and all I've been doing is racing Single Player offline. Having my usual initial GT blast.

Anyway, since we're playing "Who Has GT5?" I'll chime in. I know nine gamer friends. Five have PS3s. All have or are getting GT5. On my PS3 friends list of about seven, half were seen playing GT5. So I guess half of America bought GT5.

 

[Akira AC]

Getting back on topic and now that I think about it GT5 is somehow similar to Medal of Honor(2010).
well,MoH as a rubbish campaign mode,made by a different developer which makes that bit of the game horrible(danger close),but the multiplayer in MoH is made by dice and its actually the best that I have in shooters in the last couple of years,multiplayer in MoH is incredible and people are missing that,due the rubbish campaign,a part of a game can kill the game itself,but a good bit could make it good,I think this is the case of GT5 ,GT4 HD is the campaign on GT5 proper is the multiplayer if we put it into perspective with MoH.

Same case but initially MoH did good sells due to its publicity campaign so is down to how a game can be advertised and how regular players can get the good side of these games.

But since GT5 focus mainly on advertising the "good" bit instead of the "bad" bit people will probably end up taking the 800 standards issue as something common,I'm starting to see that over JP public,not like +800 standards but more like 800 "whatever" cars with no wheel changes and no interiors,and 200 "must have" premiums,so its all down on how the public sees the product,and trust me on this JP are not stupid,that's for sure(BTW I'm not Japanese so I'm not over flawing myself).

 

[Raagentreg]

Getting back on topic and now that I think about it GT5 is somehow similar to Medal of Honor(2010).
well,MoH as a rubbish campaign mode,made by a different developer which makes that bit of the game horrible(danger close),but the multiplayer in MoH is made by dice and its actually the best that I have in shooters in the last couple of years,multiplayer in MoH is incredible and people are missing that,due the rubbish campaign,a part of a game can kill the game itself,but a good bit could make it good,I think this is the case of GT5 ,GT4 HD is the campaign on GT5 proper is the multiplayer if we put it into perspective with MoH.

Same case but initially MoH did good sells due to its publicity campaign so is down to how a game can be advertised and how regular players can get the good side of these games.

But since GT5 focus mainly on advertising the "good" bit instead of the "bad" bit people will probably end up taking the 800 standards issue as something common,I'm starting to see that over JP public,not like +800 standards but more like 800 "whatever" cars with no wheel changes and no interiors,and 200 "must have" premiums,so its all down on how the public sees the product,and trust me on this JP are not stupid,that's for sure(BTW I'm not Japanese so I'm not over flawing myself).

This.

The only way COD is going to be dethroned is if some other shooter tops it, and even then COD would have had to have made a phenomenal flop of a game (hint developers).

Medal of Honour came close, but released at the wrong time sadly, even though they sold earlier than Black Ops. They would have had to sell it as a Christmas release to capitalize on COD's clear flop of a game - It's definitely worse than modern warfare 1, I'll even go as far as to say it's worse than the original COD.

Why?

There is no juxtaposition - as said by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (or the Zero Punctuation guy) in his Black Ops review. I'm not going to post that link because it is very, VERY NSFW. (Also he isn't likely to review GT5 because he finds racers hard to play / he is very bad at them)

But to be on topic something similar would have to happen to the GT franchise in order to dethrone it, Forza has had a fair shot at it, and have failed by the sounds of things.

We also have to remember that GT5 is ONLY on PS3. Now if someone had sales figures for COD Black Ops on the PS3 then we would have a fair test.

Does anyone have those figures?

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

Especially when you consider Europe had 1.8 Million to America's just over 350,000 units Sold. I thought with the addition of Nascar and Kart racing, those numbers would be higher. Let's wait til after christmas and see if this improves.

Nascar series itself wasn't selling too hot either which is why EA doesn't care for the Nascar licenses anymore. It's seem Americans are more into shooting than racing.

 

[Tenacious D]

Part of the problem with racers such as GT and Forza is that many Americans aren't set up to handle a long, involved racing experience. We either have families or short attention spans. Or both. GT5 in particular is a challenge to get through quickly, to say the least.

I spent an hour trying to pass the I-A 10 powerslide nightmare test. Most Americans would rather accomplish more than one thing in that hour, unless it was an endurance race. We hate grinding. But in GT5 more than any other Gran Turismo, you have to spend hours grinding to get money and experience because the economy is so utterly stingy. I know people didn't want GT5 to be easy, but, holy hadrons...