2005 BMW 130i M Sport

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Then so is the Audi A4 3.2, the VW Golf GTi ect. It's a hot hatch, it's aiming high, like the best hot hatch high. How is a hot hatch that can keep up with an Impreza pointless?
 
It's a 4 door hatch which was supposed to be practical, when in actual fact it's turned out to be about as practical as sinal fluid. (Just ask any magazine who's road tested it, and they'll say the same. One even stated that getting into the back of a 1 series was and I quote "just a joke")
 
Hot hatches in general arn't about practicality, if it's not practical that just puts it on a level field with the others in that area then doesn't it. I don't think doing the shopping is an important part of buying an Impreza, this is in the Impreza's field so why would you expect potential buys to be looking for practicality.
 
On the other hand, why spend 25/30k on one of these when the above mentioned Subaru is cheaper?

Hell, for the same price as one of these, you could get a second hand, low mileage, good condition M5!
 
It's not 30k, it's similarly priced to the Subaru, it has similar performance to the Subaru, people will by the #Impreza if they prefer the Impreza and they'll buy this if they want a BMW. As for second hand cars you can pick up a lot of great cars second hand, you can get a TVR Tuscan S for less than the Impreza but that argument would stray too far away from the normal practise of comparing a new car to a new car. If everyone wen't for used cars the car market would collapse.
 
I still thinks it's far to overpriced for what it is. 👎

And no offence, but a TVR Tuscan S isn't a 4 door hatchback. ;)
 
I hate the sides of all BMW 130's it looks like someone fat sat too close to the door.
 
TVRKing
I still thinks it's far to overpriced for what it is. 👎

And no offence, but a TVR Tuscan S isn't a 4 door hatchback. ;)
Like I don't know that, I was making a point, that whatever you're after, the practicality, the performance or the luxury you can get great deals by looking secondhand but that argument when talking about a new car's value takes the disscussion well off topic since people that buy a new car are after a newcar.
 
live4speed
Like I don't know that, I was making a point, that whatever you're after, the practicality, the performance or the luxury you can get great deals by looking secondhand but that argument when talking about a new car's value takes the disscussion well off topic since people that buy a new car are after a newcar.

Fair enough. All I'm saying is that I don't think spending 25/30k for one of these is justifiable. It's just too expensive for what it is.
 
What it is is a way for BMW to make enough money to keep on selling M3's, M5's and M6's.

And a way for them to eventually offer an M1 (or M2, as M1 is taken already... :lol: ).

There is no doubt, though, that people will buy it.
 
Here's a point. It has the same power/weight ratio as a Nissan 350Z (which has the same base price), probably handles as well and it has four seats plus a more useful trunk area.


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I quite like it, it sort of (well as far as you can these days, with all the electronice gizmos, added weight from safety stuff and luxry equipment) reminds me of the smaller older E30 M3.
 
///M-Spec
Here's a point. It has the same power/weight ratio as a Nissan 350Z (which has the same base price), probably handles as well and it has four seats plus a more useful trunk area.


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Interisting that little "M". But I prefer the look of the Z. ;-)
 
It's all good in all the right places except for the styling. Like Cracker said, it's still ugly.
 
live4speed
Hot hatches in general arn't about practicality, if it's not practical that just puts it on a level field with the others in that area then doesn't it. I don't think doing the shopping is an important part of buying an Impreza, this is in the Impreza's field so why would you expect potential buys to be looking for practicality.

?!??!

Hot hatches are supposed to be pratical and all general-purpose cars! I think that is the biggest fault of the 1 series. It's trying to be a pratical hot hatch but it just isn't... Poor boot space and rear leg room. For that kind of money you can have cars that are just as unpratical but better looking and faster.

If you want a car that is just as fast and more pratical, go for the already mentioned Impreza.

You're really paying for the badge in that car, wich is a stupid reason since its a BMW.

And it's still ugly :yuck: if you look at it sideways it looks like a boat.
 
If you're going to buy this expensive hatchback (whose price eclipses even the Clio V6, which I'm pretty sure will be a more entertaining, if nauseating drive), you may as well get the Hartge version.
In fact, I'd rather the buyer bought the fastest version available, if only for the car to leave my sight sooner.
 
As most BMW's it will be too expensive.... 265 hp 0-60 mph in 6 sec.... WOW... take an STi, do some tunig on the ECU and the muffler for maybe 2500 USD and you'll have saved a lot of money and have bigger and faster car... personal opinion, but the prices for the 1 series are ridiculos; many of my friends work for BMW ( I live 60 km away from Munich ) and I havn't met one who can justify the price... just my opinon.......
 
The point probably is: It's not a practical hatchback at a practical price. The main problem is, you're supposed to be paying that BMW premium for:

1: Luxury
2: Prestige
3: Sportiness

Luxury is such a marginal thing, especially when applied to a car so small. Nobody has any room, and if you're paying for a 'luxury' car, you definitely want to be able to extend your elbows even just a little bit. This doesn't bother Mini owners, but then, they have a better looking car with a moonroof, and the name Mini (should be Midi-(um... sic) actually) speaks for itself. EDIT: And guess what? the smallest luxury (priced) car on the planet, the 'smart', is now officially dead.

Prestige? It's the 316 all over again. But now it's easier to tell who's scrimped on the cash and gone for the bottom model (which certainly isn't going to impress the snobs) or who's gone and blown his bills on a small, impractical and expensive car (which won't impress your co-workers, either... or at least not all of them).

Sport? Refer to reference to WRX. There's a car that's huge inside (especially in wagon form), thus being practical and full of elbow room, which can kick ass two ways to Tuesday, and won't raise too many eyebrows. Or the Legacy. It looks better than both of them, and has even more elbow room.

If BMW had meant the 1 to be a driver's car, it should have made it a two-seater... then people would understand... and wouldn't b*tch so much about how impractical it is, because it wouldn't pretend to be.
 
///M-Spec
Here's a point. It has the same power/weight ratio as a Nissan 350Z (which has the same base price), probably handles as well and it has four seats plus a more useful trunk area.


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As I've said it's right in almost all the aspects except the styling. I just can't get bast it's styling. Although the rear is seducing me slowly I'll never like the fronts styling. :yuck:
 
Thanks... I like the IDEA of the 1-series, but I think I won't like the 1 per se until they come up with the 1-coupe (or 2-coupe, as they're all even numbered, now). :D
 
Looks very bland in there:
130imsport05_inter.jpg
 
Maserati Coupe and the Spyker C8 Laviolette have the nicest interiors in my opinion.

Not a bit of grey or silver to be seen!
 
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