2005 Mustang

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ok the only thing wrong with this is it is too much of a "chick car" everything is round and smoth what really needs to happen is an extention of the front and make the back look more like the actual car that it is trying to mime. i dont knwo to be happy because the older model is coming back or pissed off because they are ruining the good, no GREAT shelby name! :odd:
 
oh for Gods sake, the concept was too low for production. All they did was lower the car and give it a new front fascia. the hood scoops will come to performance models and other addon parts. This is the stock and GT versions. You know damned well a SVT Cobra would look lower and meaner like the concept. You seem to forget this has to be used everyday, and Im sure the concept will look so pretty bottomed out on the first speed-bump with a cracked front spoiler :rolleyes:
Were talking concept versus reality here. concepts do not obey the laws of production. Thats why they are CONCEPTS. Now Chrysler does a good job productionizing, but notice their concepts are also usually high dollar niche cars like Crossfire and Viper. Practicality goes out the window on such cars, which is why you dont see thousands of them like you do Stangs.
 
Originally posted by Innotech
Now Chrysler does a good job productionizing, but notice their concepts are also usually high dollar niche cars like Crossfire and Viper.
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PT Cruiser? 300C? SRT-4?
 
Originally posted by VipFREAK
I really don't understand this about products and cars, stuff in general?!??! Being an Industrial Designer and seeing this kind of stuff happening all the time. How the hell do you go from that nice of a concept and then **** it all up?!?!??!?! I mean even the front openings there's not that much of a difference and did it really need changing or is it that hard to make that versus the production one!??!?!? Some one pleazzz... Explain for me?!?!? :banghead:

Nick:cheers:
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i realize it's an old post but I figure, I'd say what I think about that. Simply put, it boils down to production costs. Ford has to make assembly as cheap as possible and that almost always means crappifying the design to make part stack up better or be cheaper to make. Also, they may have had to change parts here and there due to safety reasons. I'd imagine size of the driver's blind spot with the concept would have been horrible seeing as how there was no window in the back in the first place...
my $.02
 
And theres rules on how high the lights are, the height of the bonnet, the front has to shaped in such a fashion so if you hit somone they go over the car, not under, and theres hundereds more where that came from. As for my opinion on the car itself, I like it, it's differnt yet it looks like a Mustang, the concept just didn't meet the criteria for a road car, most concepts don't which is why theres nearly always changes made before production.
 
Wow, that was an old post... eh.. I think I'd like to clarify myself. That was more of a frustration post but still the difference between the concept and the production shows their decisions and/or compromises. I understand this more and more as I go thru the same processes in my own work for ID but on a smaller scale of course. It's just that if you start out smart with good ideas or planning, don't lose your goal, make good decisions, and compromises then the product or whatever it is won't look unfinished or half assed. There are exceptions of course.

With this Mustang it just seems like from looking at the concept car to the production car they lost what their goal was actually to do. To make a modern mustang with the essence of the old mustang. With the amount of resources of a car company has for material and processes doing something like cutting out the second window on the side could be more expensive because it's another process and more material to have to deal with. Yet, if they don't put a glass in then it's a huge blind spot. They had to compromise and decided to put a window there. It's just something I don't agree with.
 
I have to agree with alot of what Ford has done, the production car is alot safer than the concept would be driving, you even said about the little side windows, that if they arn't there they cause a blind spot, and yet you think they shouldn't be there (edit:maybe I've missunderstood you on that one, let me know if I have). If a cyclist was knocked over because the driver couldn't see him due to tghe unneccessary blind spot, do you think he'd be happy about the cars design. Saftey is a big and important part of car design, the reason a concept looks better in general is because it's only there to gauge public reaction, so the better the concept, the more press, the more free advertising of the car and then wham, out comes the production model and everyone knows about it. If th concept is dull and boring it gets almost no press and people don't bat an eyelid.
 
should of added this but It's just I think if they were going to put a window there don't just make it look like a cut out at the last moment to make it "road worthy" or safe. It's the compromise and the level of it that will partly determine if that window looks in place there. It doesn't seem that way to me.

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Also why should this window thing be an issue in the first place?! There is the old fast back mustang and the 96 mustang that featured a pilar that was that big? Is the blind spot that big of an issue? Is it that big of a compromise they had to put it in?
 
Okay, I can see what you mean, it does look like a last minuet, we did it over lunch job, but it doesn't ruin the entire car, just makes it less nice imo.
 
Originally posted by VipFREAK


Also why should this window thing be an issue in the first place?! There is the old fast back mustang and the 96 mustang that featured a pilar that was that big? Is the blind spot that big of an issue? Is it that big of a compromise they had to put it in?
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I doubt it. Who the hell hurts their neck to look that direction anyway? That's what mirrors are for.

Look at panel vans. No side windows save for the doors.
 
Well, vans I have a beef with because not only do they have a big ass blind spot but they are higher off the ground which makes the passenger side even worse visibility wise. I know from my dad having a van and when I was young I'd always have to check for him.

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BTW, looking at that window I bet it's pretty worthless visibility wise anyways especially when there are passengers in the back. It looks pretty small to me.
 
The rules have changed, there will be more changes in a year or so.
 
Not sure but it's changes with saftey, there a new law that the bonnet (hood) has to be so far above the suspension and engine to cushion an impact, thats the reason the Vauxhall Lightning won't go ahead, and there might be a couple of other small changes.
 
Is it me or the new mustangs interior look really bad no matter how hard they try to make it look good.

It still looks outdated and cheap in my personal opinion, this can be seen from the switchgear and seats. :mischievous:

I dont understand fords design cues and what they are trying to acheive, the cars look like it could be just 90% women drivers.:lol: :odd:
 

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The switchgear, if you can't read two posts back to back your on the wrong web site.
 
Originally posted by live4speed
Yeah, it's all from the Ford parts bin.
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Personally, I could care less if the interior looks like crap. This is no Audi TT, and if pennies are pinched fromt he interior design and put into the engine, then that is what's supposed to be happening. Thats the whole idea of the musclecar/ponycar.
 

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