2012/2013 Premier League Season + FA & League Cup chat

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What a speech by Sir Alex! I teared up. It was fantastic to see him lift the trophy though. Thank you for 26 fantastic years Sir Alex
 
FA Cup winners get a place in the Europa League right? Do they still get the place if they get relegated? Be weird having 5th, 6th and a Championship side representing England in the tournament.

Birmingham did it :P They didn't win the FA cup though I believe they got into Europa courtesy of the League Cup.
 
Ferguson more or less confirmed that Rooney wants to leave, but that United don't want to sell. :indiff:

He said himself Rooney put in a transfer request. 👎 but who cares about Rooney today, many people can come and go from Utd, Beckham, Ronaldo just to name a few, but I highly doubt anyone will be close to Sir Alex Ferguson. Thank you Fergie! :cheers:
 
FA Cup winners get a place in the Europa League right? Do they still get the place if they get relegated? Be weird having 5th, 6th and a Championship side representing England in the tournament.

FA cup finalists or League Cup winners.

Swansea, Wigan and 5th are the three teams in Europa League this year.

Also Everton if England are awarded the Fair Play this year.

If Swansea and Wigan can afford the European license they can compete in Europe.
 
PSG have rejected an approach from Real Madrid for Carlo Ancelotti!...which pretty much says that Mourinho WONT be at Real next season..

...also on the topic of managers, theres still no news from Man City board regarding Mancini so he is still the manager...for now!
 
Anyone have MUTV on here? The bus parade was absolutely incredible with SAF describing it better than 1999. There must have been easily 500,000 people in Albert Square. Many more along Deansgate and Sir Matt Busby way as well.
 
FA Cup winners get a place in the Europa League right? Do they still get the place if they get relegated? Be weird having 5th, 6th and a Championship side representing England in the tournament.
Wigan were in fact guaranteed it whether they won or not.

Manchester City won last week and secured Champions' League qualification from their league position. That meant that they couldn't take the Europa League spot for the FA Cup and it'd go to the highest placed team that weren't them, giving it to the other finalists. In the event, Wigan won it and took the spot anyway.

I don't think it's happened since English teams were allowed back into Europe, but I'd love to know what happens if the final is between two Champions' League qualified teams... I suspect it'd just go to the next team in the league.
 
Let him play out the season. Jesus, stupid money grabbing owners. He won their first title in monkeys years and they seemingly just try to make a statement by sacking him before the end of the season. City are cemented into 2nd, no other big matches. I don't see why he couldn't manage till the end of the season.
 
I wouldn't say the sacking was too harsh; he had more than enough money to spend and the CL campaign was a disaster. City's problem is that they sign players like Sinclair, decent players for teams on the fringes of the top 8, but not good enough against the European elite.

The atmosphere around the club is pretty toxic atm, and believe a deal has almost been agreed with Pelgrini, so why not just get it over with?
 
Then again, it's not like Mancini wasn't hovering about and attending games when Hughes' time was up.
 
That's quite sad, I know a lot was expected of Man City this season but it was always going to be very very tough to win the league 2 years back to back. Yes they were atrocious in Europe but they are a very solid second in the league beaten only by a very good United team with tonnes of potential and the greatest manager.

I wish owners would give managers a chance, one dodgy season and it's curtains no matter what. Have they learnt nothing from their neighbours?
 
That's quite sad, I know a lot was expected of Man City this season but it was always going to be very very tough to win the league 2 years back to back. Yes they were atrocious in Europe but they are a very solid second in the league beaten only by a very good United team with tonnes of potential and the greatest manager.

I wish owners would give managers a chance, one dodgy season and it's curtains no matter what. Have they learnt nothing from their neighbours?

If you want my honest opinion. With the players that Mancini had at his disposal. He should have won the league the way that Man U did this year. Before the final match day. Give that Man City team to a good manager and I bet it would slap teams silly in the premier league.
 
"Yes, it's finished!"


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Can't say im sorry to see him go, never cared to much for him.

Worst manager in the league if you ask me. His philosophy was Buy now, buy later, blame players when it all doesn't work out in the end. Half a billion dollars in 4 years, one FA Cup, one League title he narrowly won against a struggling United team. Done absolute rubbish in the champions league. The annual salary of maybe one player on the team is more than the worth of the entire Wigan team that beat them.

Subbing off Tevez for Rodwell in the final when Tevez looked to be the only player with any fire was enough alone to get sacked.
 
Worst manager in the league if you ask me. His philosophy was Buy now, buy later, blame players when it all doesn't work out in the end. Half a billion dollars in 4 years, one FA Cup, one League title he narrowly won against a struggling United team. Done absolute rubbish in the champions league. The annual salary of maybe one player on the team is more than the worth of the entire Wigan team that beat them.
I agree.

Worst attitude i've seen from any manager. His arrogance and opinions about other managers and players is horrible.

Hopefully he won't be in the Premier League next season. Well, at least I hope.
 
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If you want my honest opinion. With the players that Mancini had at his disposal. He should have won the league the way that Man U did this year. Before the final match day. Give that Man City team to a good manager and I bet it would slap teams silly in the premier league.
I think you vastly underrate the current United team and are overrating the city one with that comment. Don't get me wrong, City have a superb first 11, but they don't have as strong a team as United, not even close IMO and I work with a city fan who agrees. United won the league because we could start a strong 11 and put 7 players good enough to have started on the bench, City can't do that, they don't have a good enough team to do that. Their best 11 is better than most teams best 11 but that's it.

That said, while I did disagree with Mancini's let's throw money at it policy he did win the league and FA cup for City and asking him after 1 trophyless season (not counting the Charity Shield) is short sighted IMO.
 
I think you vastly underrate the current United team and are overrating the city one with that comment. Don't get me wrong, City have a superb first 11, but they don't have as strong a team as United, not even close IMO and I work with a city fan who agrees. United won the league because we could start a strong 11 and put 7 players good enough to have started on the bench, City can't do that, they don't have a good enough team to do that. Their best 11 is better than most teams best 11 but that's it.

That said, while I did disagree with Mancini's let's throw money at it policy he did win the league and FA cup for City and asking him after 1 trophyless season (not counting the Charity Shield) is short sighted IMO.

I think everyone vastly overrates the Man United Team. I can think of maybe only 3 players on that team that are really good and could move to any team and be good. The other players are overrated and only played well because of Fergie's brilliance in getting players to play above and beyond their actual ability.
 
Have to agree with Dave here - Man Utd's strength (and Ferguson's talent) has always been in their ability to make a solid team that includes some individuals who would otherwise be unremarkable compared to stand-out individual players of the likes of Bale, Messi or Ronaldo. Of course, Man Utd have always had outstanding individual players as well, but I reckon their real strength is the combination of a small number of uniquely talented players and a large number of solid team players - as well as having a manager who got the most out of any player.
 
You've got to buy players to fit the team, too many teams just go round buying any good player without a clue on where they'll play or what formation and style of play will get the best out of everyone in the team. Then when it does not work they just sack the manager and it all starts again, never addressing the real problem.

That's before you start looking at each player or trying to balance the star players with players who give 100% all the time. It would be nice if there were a ton of players who give there all every match but there simply is not and it isn't going to change. Then try dealing with all the egos and the odd idiot player you get, it can't be easy to be a manger at all these days.

You can't buy continued success at the highest levels anymore because there are too many teams spending big money so you have to be smart about how you spend it and even then you will have years where you don't win anything because another team or teams will be smarter, better, work harder or just be luckier than you. The trick is to learn from your or even other's mistakes, not just sack the manager. Sometimes it is the right call, but often the problem/s lie elsewhere but most owners are clearly too dumb to realize this.
 
Has to be said that the way the Man City board deal with their managers when they sack them is shambolic and appalling!

Why didnt they tell Mancini he was going face-to-face, he found out from the media and so did Mark Hughes when he got the sack...and i think Mancini probably knew he was going before the cup final as well!

Its just not the way to do it!
 
Has to be said that the way the Man City board deal with their managers when they sack them is shambolic and appalling!

Why didnt they tell Mancini he was going face-to-face, he found out from the media and so did Mark Hughes when he got the sack...and i think Mancini probably knew he was going before the cup final as well!

Its just not the way to do it!

Yep and yet they probably wonder how they lost the cup final, well this sort of thing does not exactly help does it.
 

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