2012 Nissan GTR [0-60: under 3 seconds]
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Remember how Nissan said that R35 GT-R cannot be tuned?
Yeah, that's 1200AWHP/965lbs-ft @ 37psi right there.
Yeah, that's 1200AWHP/965lbs-ft @ 37psi right there.
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Remember how Nissan said that R35 GT-R cannot be tuned?
Yeah, that's 1200AWHP/965lbs-ft @ 37psi right there.
When did they say that? GT-R's have been tuned since they've been on the market....
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Nissan said that when they released it. 
Well, car companies have been proven to be wrong before..
Well, car companies have been proven to be wrong before..
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There's always a company or individual out there that does that. It can be done!
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Indeed. Sadly, it seems that 1200AWHP+ is the limit of stock block and drivetrain. There was a development car that made more than this one, but, on last dyno pull it shattered driveshaft and when the motor was inspected with a dyed fluid, there were cracks all over the block. But they're not giving up yet.
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Nissan said that when they released it.
Doesn't make sense. MINE'S had R35 test mules long before the car ever came out. Mine's is a tuning company...
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Nissans plan was that some well known tuner garages could offer upgrades for the car, but that individuals that bought the car couldn't do much themselves.
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Well, 1,200 AWHP is more than most cars can handle without being tubbed and stuck with a 5-speed Liberty or Lenco and a enormous Ford 9" derived rear end...
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That was inspirational.
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Nissan said that when they released it.
Plenty of teams have been racing them too, I know the GOTO:Racing (now Cobb? I think its the same car?) GTR in Redline Time Attack was tuned for around 800hp initially and I believe its doing more than that now.
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Sweet 
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Not to mention a custom iron or billet engine block.
Speaking of that, Pro Stock cars make over 1,200 horses naturally aspirated with 118 octane gas.
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They had a stock drivetrain? I thought Switzer sold its kit with upgraded transmission parts.
1,200 whp is incredible... at least 50% more than the most powerful streetable R34s and some of those have built bottom ends...
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RE: untuneable... basically, Nissan thought that the coding on its ECU would be uncrackable, and only "authorized" tuners would be able to modify the tunes. Yeah... like that was going to happen with a car with such big aftermarket potential...
1,200 whp is incredible... at least 50% more than the most powerful streetable R34s and some of those have built bottom ends...
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RE: untuneable... basically, Nissan thought that the coding on its ECU would be uncrackable, and only "authorized" tuners would be able to modify the tunes. Yeah... like that was going to happen with a car with such big aftermarket potential...
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Oddly it seems with cars reaching potentials like the R35's full race spec is the beat way to achieve real perfomance increasrd (generally speaking). Sure power goes up and 1/4 mile / 0-60 time go down but for lap times to really drop stripping out the interior and modest power gains seem to be most effective.
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That would make it the most capable factory engine I know of, besides all these Lamborghinis running around. But of course, the Lambos come from the factory with basically a race-spec engine anyway. I wouldn't doubt the R35's engine is made similarly. Maybe the Ford GT, but I'm not sure what they do to those internals.
EDIT: I'd be very interested to see a dirty rich Veyron owner and a very brave tuner get together and see what can be done. Those cars are everyday reliable...which means they can make more power.
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Update:
Yeah, 1248AWHP and ~1000AWTQ. Rev limiter has been raised to 8k, so it should do around 224mph. Definitely needs higher final gear ratio.
Yeah, 1248AWHP and ~1000AWTQ.
Rev limiter has been raised to 8k, so it should do around 224mph. Definitely needs higher final gear ratio.
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What kind of dyno is that? I've been hearing a lot lately about how Mustang and Dynojet dynos read way high. The big-power guys like to use them so their numbers look bigger. A buddy of mine with a 600 whp Terminator makes over 650 on a Mustang or Dynojet.
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Yup... Mustangs tend to read lower than Dynojets, Dynapacks and all these other newfangled dynos.
If you want to impress everyone, Dynojet. If you want to impress the "big boys", Mustang.
Either way, absolute numbers don't matter as much as how much more than stock a car makes... With a stock whp (turbocharged!) of around 415-435, 1,200+++ whp is something like 200% higher. Incredible. Especially if that's the stock drivetrain, because most stock differentials and gears (again, does this have the upgraded gearbox package?) give up the ghost at a mere 50-100% increase in power...
I suppose that's the R1K on race gas? It's supposed to make 1,000 even on street gas, right?
If you want to impress everyone, Dynojet. If you want to impress the "big boys", Mustang.
Either way, absolute numbers don't matter as much as how much more than stock a car makes... With a stock whp (turbocharged!) of around 415-435, 1,200+++ whp is something like 200% higher. Incredible. Especially if that's the stock drivetrain, because most stock differentials and gears (again, does this have the upgraded gearbox package?) give up the ghost at a mere 50-100% increase in power...
I suppose that's the R1K on race gas? It's supposed to make 1,000 even on street gas, right?
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Sounds about right. And most owners who drag or track their GT-R's have upgraded the couple first gears and clutch packs as well as oil/tranny oil cooling and brake pads. The ratios haven't been changed, they're just made out of sturdier stuff.
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Kinda thought so. The 1000 kit supposedly makes 1000 on race gas and around 800+ on 93. I know of a local owner who's having the kit imported (Don't know if it's 1000 or the older 800 kit... He's currently running a 600+ hp HKS kit)... Can't wait to see this in person.
Update:
Yeah, 1248AWHP and ~1000AWTQ.
That's some graph. And with the 0-60 mph under 3 seconds I can't wait to see it on the road!
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Yup, that's GT3-class GT-R. It will keep the VR38DETT.
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That wing is hueg liek XBAWKS.
So they are finally going to actually use the engine for racing? About time. I've always thought it pretty dumb that they kept talking up how amazing awesome the VR38 was only for them to switch it out for a truck motor every time they entered the car in anything.
So they are finally going to actually use the engine for racing? About time. I've always thought it pretty dumb that they kept talking up how amazing awesome the VR38 was only for them to switch it out for a truck motor every time they entered the car in anything.
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Indeed. Naturally, the car goes through a tough diet, if memory serves it was either 1250kg or 1350kg. I'm pretty certain that VR38 is a reliable power source now that Nissan has enough data regarding it.
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