2013-2014 English Football League Promotion/Relegation
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My disappointment at Liverpool losing is slightly off-set by the happiness of seeing Chesterfield promoted.
My home town side, and the one, as a child, I watched at Saltergate every weekend with my grandad. He would ahve loved today
My home town side, and the one, as a child, I watched at Saltergate every weekend with my grandad. He would ahve loved today
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Just to top this off.
Chester drew their game against Salisbury but Hereford stay up thanks to a late win against Aldershot, keeping Hereford in the Conference on goal difference.
However, with Hereford's financial plight meaning that their players have gone without pay for three months, it is grossly unfair that a team which pays their players week in week out on a stable budget is relegated whereas a team which budgets to make losses and cannot pay its players, survives.
Another one of those cases where the board pocket the profits and the fans suffer. Hereford could still go bust before the season's end, which would mean SIXTEEN Conference teams in 10 years have gone bust.
20th Hereford P46 GD -19 51pts
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21st Chester P46 GD -21 51pts
22nd Dartford P46 GD -25 44pts
23rd Tamworth P46 GD -38 39pts
24th Hyde P46 GD -81 10pts
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Last day of the Football League Season...
Championship
At the top there's only a playoff place to look forward to. If Reading win (vs. promoted Burnley), it's Reading's. If they draw and Brighton win (vs. freefalling Nottingham Forest), it's Brighton's. If they lose and Brighton draw, it's Brighton's. If Reading lose, Brighton lose and Blackburn win (vs. qualified Wigan), it's Blackburn's - or if Reading lose, Brighton draw and Blackburn win by 7.
At the bottom it's all bonkers as four teams face the final relegation spot. To summarise:
If Birmingham lose, Birmingham relegated
If Birmingham draw and:
- Doncaster lose, Doncaster relegated
- Doncaster draw, Birmingham relegated
If Birmingham win and:
- Doncaster lose, Doncaster relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster draw and
- Millwall lose by one goal, Doncaster relegated on goals scored
- Millwall lose by two goals, Millwall relegated on goal difference
- Millwall draw, Doncaster relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and:
- Millwall lose, Millwall relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and Millwall draw and:
- Blackpool lose by less than 4 goals, Millwall relegated on goal difference
- Blackpool lose by 4 goals, Blackpool relegated on goals scored
- Blackpool lose by more than 4 goals, Blackpool relegated on goal difference
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and Millwall win and:
- Blackpool lose, Blackpool relegated
- Blackpool draw or win, Birmingham relegated
Clear?
Championship
At the top there's only a playoff place to look forward to. If Reading win (vs. promoted Burnley), it's Reading's. If they draw and Brighton win (vs. freefalling Nottingham Forest), it's Brighton's. If they lose and Brighton draw, it's Brighton's. If Reading lose, Brighton lose and Blackburn win (vs. qualified Wigan), it's Blackburn's - or if Reading lose, Brighton draw and Blackburn win by 7.
At the bottom it's all bonkers as four teams face the final relegation spot. To summarise:
If Birmingham lose, Birmingham relegated
If Birmingham draw and:
- Doncaster lose, Doncaster relegated
- Doncaster draw, Birmingham relegated
If Birmingham win and:
- Doncaster lose, Doncaster relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster draw and
- Millwall lose by one goal, Doncaster relegated on goals scored
- Millwall lose by two goals, Millwall relegated on goal difference
- Millwall draw, Doncaster relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and:
- Millwall lose, Millwall relegated
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and Millwall draw and:
- Blackpool lose by less than 4 goals, Millwall relegated on goal difference
- Blackpool lose by 4 goals, Blackpool relegated on goals scored
- Blackpool lose by more than 4 goals, Blackpool relegated on goal difference
If Birmingham win and Doncaster win and Millwall win and:
- Blackpool lose, Blackpool relegated
- Blackpool draw or win, Birmingham relegated
Clear?
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In the last minute, Brighton have put themselves into the playoffs... Birmingham found themselves 2 down but pulled one back in the 88th - still a goal off survival...
Edit: Blackburn won (70pt), but that won't put them above Reading (71pt) who just drew...
Edit edit: Another 90th minute goal puts Birmingham (44pt) level and Doncaster (44pt) are now in the relegation zone!
Edit edit edit: Brighton win (72pt) in the last minute, securing the playoff place!
Edit edit edit edit: Birmingham (44pt, -16) draw, sending defeated Doncaster (44pt, -31) down in the last minute!
Edit: Blackburn won (70pt), but that won't put them above Reading (71pt) who just drew...
Edit edit: Another 90th minute goal puts Birmingham (44pt) level and Doncaster (44pt) are now in the relegation zone!
Edit edit edit: Brighton win (72pt) in the last minute, securing the playoff place!
Edit edit edit edit: Birmingham (44pt, -16) draw, sending defeated Doncaster (44pt, -31) down in the last minute!
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Undoubtedly, the Championship truly is my favourite football division.
Edit: Here's the table
21st Birmingham City 44pts
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22nd Doncaster Rovers 44pts
23rd Barnsley 39pts
24th Yeovil Town 37pts
Last season, Peterborough had 54 points and were still relegated.
Edit: Here's the table
21st Birmingham City 44pts
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22nd Doncaster Rovers 44pts
23rd Barnsley 39pts
24th Yeovil Town 37pts
Last season, Peterborough had 54 points and were still relegated.
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More things today:
Premier League
If Sunderland win and Cardiff don't, Cardiff are relegated. Bad news for Fulham fans - same thing applies to Fulham, though even a Sunderland draw could do Cardiff in if the bluebirds lose.
League One
The top is done and dusted.
At the bottom, Carlisle must win for any hope of survival, but any result of any kind for Crewe will still finish them off. Tranmere have better survival hopes - a draw will save them if Crewe lose. But they need to win if Crewe so much as draw. A win for both could drop Notts County in the mire if the midlanders don't at least draw...
League Two
The title is still up for grabs. Scunthorpe can win it only by winning while both Chesterfield AND Rochdale draw or lose. Otherwise it goes to whomever of Chesterfield and Rochdale get the better result - evens and it's Chesterfield's.
The bottom is a dogfight. Wycombe have to win against already-relegated Torquay to survive - nothing else will do - but if Northampton and Bristol Rovers get at least a draw, it won't matter. If both lose, the Cobblers go down and if only Bristol lose, the Rovers are relegated on goal difference...
Premier League
If Sunderland win and Cardiff don't, Cardiff are relegated. Bad news for Fulham fans - same thing applies to Fulham, though even a Sunderland draw could do Cardiff in if the bluebirds lose.
League One
The top is done and dusted.
At the bottom, Carlisle must win for any hope of survival, but any result of any kind for Crewe will still finish them off. Tranmere have better survival hopes - a draw will save them if Crewe lose. But they need to win if Crewe so much as draw. A win for both could drop Notts County in the mire if the midlanders don't at least draw...
League Two
The title is still up for grabs. Scunthorpe can win it only by winning while both Chesterfield AND Rochdale draw or lose. Otherwise it goes to whomever of Chesterfield and Rochdale get the better result - evens and it's Chesterfield's.
The bottom is a dogfight. Wycombe have to win against already-relegated Torquay to survive - nothing else will do - but if Northampton and Bristol Rovers get at least a draw, it won't matter. If both lose, the Cobblers go down and if only Bristol lose, the Rovers are relegated on goal difference...
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Indeed.
At the moment...
Cardiff and Fulham are going down because Sunderland are winning
Carlisle are losing and going down, Tranmere (50pt, -25) are going down despite winning due to Notts County drawing (50pt, -13)
Chesterfield are taking the title (84pt) from Rochdale (82pt), Bristol Rovers are going to be relegated (50pt, -11) while Wycombe survive (50pt, -8)
At the moment...
Cardiff and Fulham are going down because Sunderland are winning
Carlisle are losing and going down, Tranmere (50pt, -25) are going down despite winning due to Notts County drawing (50pt, -13)
Chesterfield are taking the title (84pt) from Rochdale (82pt), Bristol Rovers are going to be relegated (50pt, -11) while Wycombe survive (50pt, -8)
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Today:
Norwich are relegated in all but name if they lose to Chelsea today. Realistically they need at least a draw, but with West Brom 4pt ahead and Sunderland 3pt ahead with a game in hand each (though that's against each other), both on significantly better goal difference, a win is what they need. A draw will only suffice if they win their last game against Arsenal while Sunderland lose both of theirs to West Brom and Swansea.
Norwich are relegated in all but name if they lose to Chelsea today. Realistically they need at least a draw, but with West Brom 4pt ahead and Sunderland 3pt ahead with a game in hand each (though that's against each other), both on significantly better goal difference, a win is what they need. A draw will only suffice if they win their last game against Arsenal while Sunderland lose both of theirs to West Brom and Swansea.
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Well, a surprising draw at Stamford Bridge means that Wednesday's Sunderland - West Brom game can't relegate Norwich but may just about do for them.
Norwich, ideally, need West Brom to win against Sunderland and then Swansea to defeat Sunderland on the final day, while they beat Arsenal.
They can still survive if Sunderland draw either game and lose the other heavily. They can also survive if Sunderland beat West Brom by an absolutely colossal margin (7 minimum) and West Brom lose their last game of the season against Stoke by a similar margin, while they beat Arsenal by five. But that's not very likely.
Norwich, ideally, need West Brom to win against Sunderland and then Swansea to defeat Sunderland on the final day, while they beat Arsenal.
They can still survive if Sunderland draw either game and lose the other heavily. They can also survive if Sunderland beat West Brom by an absolutely colossal margin (7 minimum) and West Brom lose their last game of the season against Stoke by a similar margin, while they beat Arsenal by five. But that's not very likely.
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Conference play-off final is between Cambridge United and Gateshead.
Cambridge defeated Conference newboys, and part timers, Halifax Town. Gateshead conquered Grimsby Town, a club who are already £4,000,000 in debt and losing £500,000 every season. They went all or nothing on promotion this year, and failed. Oops.
The final is tough to call. Cambridge are the better side on paper, but Gateshead have an excellent manager in Gary Mills.
Cambridge defeated Conference newboys, and part timers, Halifax Town. Gateshead conquered Grimsby Town, a club who are already £4,000,000 in debt and losing £500,000 every season. They went all or nothing on promotion this year, and failed. Oops.
The final is tough to call. Cambridge are the better side on paper, but Gateshead have an excellent manager in Gary Mills.
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Comfortable 2-0 win for sunderland virtually relegates Norwich, they need a miracle to stay up now.
Brighton meanwhile lost leg 1 of the play off semi final at home to Derby 2-1, a penalty and an o.g a harsh way to lose so Brighton need to pull something special to beat Derby at Pride Park.
Brighton meanwhile lost leg 1 of the play off semi final at home to Derby 2-1, a penalty and an o.g a harsh way to lose so Brighton need to pull something special to beat Derby at Pride Park.
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Second leg between QPR-Wigan is tonight and anything would be an improvement on the 1st leg which was a dull 0-0
Also on is the first leg League Two playoff between York and Fleetwood which was postponed from Saturday because of a waterlogged pitch....both matches on Sky tonight...
Also on is the first leg League Two playoff between York and Fleetwood which was postponed from Saturday because of a waterlogged pitch....both matches on Sky tonight...
