2013 Formula One Shell Belgian Grand Prix

[Blitz24]

Looks like I missed a exciting race today, eh?
But good to see the fans still voicing opinion at podium

Now if only you can miss every race for the rest of time.


Boos were for some sort of protest and then these fools got onto the track and had to be forcibly removed.

 

[Lizard]

Looks like I missed a exciting race today, eh?
But good to see the fans still voicing opinion at podium

The boos were for the Greenpeace guy trying to abseil onto the podium off camera.

 

[Ninners]

 

[R5]

I hope those ropes were made from recycled material!

 

[Lizard]

They need to learn when and where to protest though. A motor race is just going to alienate people as almost everyone who watches that are car lovers rather than environmentalists. They possibly lost support today rather than gained it.

Anyway. I thought it was a good race. Not the best but good.

Gutted that Button couldn't make the podium though.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

What happened exactly? I feel asleep during the race and only woke up during the end of podium interviews so what is with these protests?

 

[Ninners]

Another picture.

 

[Barra333]

As far I could work out from the commentary, the protests were against Shell, the race sponsor, rather than anything F1 specific.

 

[Rossell2]

And on that note, let's move on and not give 'em any more attention

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

As far I could work out from the commentary, the protests were against Shell, the race sponsor, rather than anything F1 specific.

That's ridiculous more so then if true.

 

[Samus]

I think you're overselling his performance today. The car was superior in every way today. The pass on Hamilton was effortless.

Drive of the day has to go to Alonso. He pretty much has to out drive the car every race.

F1 Fan logic is always good.

Vettel wins/drives near the front - "The car is doing all the work, Webber just isn't that good, that's why he's further back".

Alonso wins/drives near the front - "Alonso is dragging that car to the front, Massa is getting the best he can out of it but Alonso is outdriving it".

 

[Whodoyouthink]

Was Kimi's carbon brakes switched out with steel ones or something? I can't for the life of me understand how his brakes faded so quickly.

 

[Lizard]

Overheating. I think something got stuck in the brake duct.

 

[dhandeh]

I wonder whose fuel they used for this little stunt?

 

[R5]

I wonder whose fuel they used for this little stunt?

ESSO? Castrol? ASDAs?

 

[Blitz24]

ESSO? Castrol? ASDAs?

Shell?

 

[Dennisch]

F1 Fan logic is always good.

Vettel wins/drives near the front - "The car is doing all the work, Webber just isn't that good, that's why he's further back".

Alonso wins/drives near the front - "Alonso is dragging that car to the front, Massa is getting the best he can out of it but Alonso is outdriving it".

👍

 

[Demon Drone]

F1 Fan logic is always good.

Vettel wins/drives near the front - "The car is doing all the work, Webber just isn't that good, that's why he's further back".

Alonso wins/drives near the front - "Alonso is dragging that car to the front, Massa is getting the best he can out of it but Alonso is outdriving it".

I'm not wrong. And how are those two statements contradictory? Simply calling as I see it.

You're an fool if you can't see that Red Bull caters to Vettel 100% and does not give two craps about Webber. It's undeniable that Vettel's car was unbeatable today. Vettel drove well but not amazing. I never said he drove like crap. And you know what? Webber is that good imo. He almost always starts in a hole by losing 3-4 spots every start of the race.

And you're also a fool if you can't see that Ferrari has had an under performing car the past couple years. The results speak for themselves between Massa and Alonso.

You're also conveniently ignoring where each driver started today and how each obtained their final positions. Know the facts before you criticize. I watched the entire race. Did you?

 

[JGreens]

Now if only you can miss every race for the rest of time.

Going to speak the manager on monday, so I won't miss another race - just for you
At least I got paid not to watch that captivating battle for the lead, simply gripping stuff, so exciting that other forum members were nodding away to sleep, truly captivating racing this year!

The boos were for the Greenpeace guy trying to abseil onto the podium off camera.

Funny how the boos stopped when Alonso & Hamilton were speaking!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

You're an fool if you can't see that Red Bull caters to Vettel 100% and does not give two craps about Webber. It's undeniable that Vettel's car was unbeatable today. Vettel drove well but not amazing. I never said he drove like crap.

And you're just the guy with a tin foil hat if you can provide evidence to your claims. Also no one said that you said Vettel drove like crap, but your comments make him sound like the car did all the work.

And you're also a fool if you can't see that Ferrari has had an under performing car the past couple years. The results speak for themselves between Massa and Alonso.

Once again I don't think you are remembering exactly as well as you think. I guess Alonso didn't have a car last year to win the championship, I mean he only threw away two race. From the halfway point forward Massa was very quick and finished well even beating his 2time WDC teammate. The upgrades they brought to the the track as both have said are a big reason why they were fast this weekend. Not because they out drove the car.

You're also conveniently ignoring where each driver started today and how each obtained their final positions. Know the facts before you criticize. I watched the entire race. Did you?

Samus usually does watch the entire race, you seem to have a subjectivity about how it all went down.

 

[Dennisch]

Going to speak the manager on monday

Surely you meant to say teacher.

 

[daan]

You're an fool

And you're also a fool

We'll have less of that, thank you.

 

[Demon Drone]

And you're just the guy with a tin foil hat if you can provide evidence to your claims.

The whole team orders fiasco earlier this year ring a bell?

Also no one said that you said Vettel drove like crap, but your comments make him sound like the car did all the work.

That's going on what you THINK I'm saying rather rather than what I'm actually saying. And yes my comments did mean the car did most of the work today. Put any other top driver in that car and the results would have been very similar. Even Vettel said it was pretty easy in the post-race interview.

Once again I don't think you are remembering exactly as well as you think. I guess Alonso didn't have a car last year to win the championship, I mean he only threw away two race. From the halfway point forward Massa was very quick and finished well even beating his 2time WDC teammate. The upgrades they brought to the the track as both have said are a big reason why they were fast this weekend. Not because they out drove the car.

He sort of had a car to win the WDC last year. The car generally wasn't as good as the other top cars. It wasn't garbage of course but it lacked some performance compared by comparison to the top. Alonso did have to out drive the car a lot last year to contend for the title.
And yes Massa did do well last year for the most part. This year has been very different. Like I said, the results speak for themselves overall.

And again, I never said that Ferrai is crap but clearly the car was not the best on the track today.

Samus usually does watch the entire race, you seem to have a subjectivity about how it all went down.

No I have an objectivity of how it went down. Calling it as I see it. Vettel drove well and took a vastly superior car to the top of the podium while Alonso had to come from 9th and brought it home in 2nd. My point still stands that Alonso gets the drive of the day from me.

 

[Demon Drone]

We'll have less of that, thank you.

At least keep the context of my statements.

 

[Danny]

At least I got paid not to watch that captivating battle for the lead, simply gripping stuff, so exciting that other forum members were nodding away to sleep, truly captivating racing this year!

Bore off.

 

[Blitz24]

Going to speak the manager on monday, so I won't miss another race - just for you
At least I got paid not to watch that captivating battle for the lead, simply gripping stuff, so exciting that other forum members were nodding away to sleep, truly captivating racing this year!

Funny how the boos stopped when Alonso & Hamilton were speaking!

And I hope he says no. The forum may appreciate that.

 

[f40]

No I have an objectivity of how it went down. Calling it as I see it. Vettel drove well and took a vastly superior car to the top of the podium while Alonso had to come from 9th and brought it home in 2nd. My point still stands that Alonso gets the drive of the day from me.

Alonso probably does get driver of the day, but part of that harks back to him being a lacklustre 9th yesterday.

So I'd say Alonso as driver of the day, but Vettel clearly driver of the weekend.

 

[JGreens]

but your comments make him sound like the car did all the work.

He does drive a Red Bull doesn't he? Or has he switched to a Toro Rosso to actually earn a victory?

Surely you meant to say teacher.

You're the one that needs schooling...read my post again - I said I got paid for my time missing the race, now if you can show me a school that pays it's students, I might accept your point. I'll wait...

Bore off.

Why? This F1 season is doing a much better job...

 

[Dennisch]

You're the one that needs schooling...read my post again - I said I got paid for my time missing the race, now if you can show me a school that pays it's students, I might accept your point. I'll wait...

I didn't meant that you needed schooling. I was pointing at your constant childish behaviour in the F1 threads.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Bore off.

Why? This F1 season is doing a much better job...

This probably isn't the motorsport for you. We actually have more going on during races than what was typical of F1 races in years past. If it isn't enough this year, then it certainly wasn't enough in years gone by. People remember races of old as being much more exciting than they really were. I've watched a lot of races from the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s and in pretty much all of those great races you had little to no contest for the win and less overtaking in the entire race than what we see in the first ten laps in a current-era race. Then, of course, there was the Schumacher/Ferrari era where he won virtually everything, even every coin toss and game of beer pong, with no real contest from anybody, where if on rare occasion he wasn't first he was second.