2014 Dunlop MSA British Touring Car Championship

[AudiMan2011]

Considering the S3 is 4WD and the A class has a 4WD version are they going to be front or rear drive?

Both will likely be front wheel drive since 4WD is banned.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Considering the S3 is 4WD and the A class has a 4WD version are they going to be front or rear drive?

FWD

 

[Clark]

Both will likely be front wheel drive since 4WD is banned.

I know that but Rob Austin's A4s are rear drive as the road car is 4WD.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Considering the S3 is 4WD and the A class has a 4WD version are they going to be front or rear drive?

It's a fair point. Why run an S3 FWD? If they went for the S3 over the A3, it surely means they wanted quattro to give them the option of RWD. If they wanted FWD, an A3 would have done?


Who's going to Brands then?

 

[Clark]

Brands is too far away for me, I'll be going to Donington, Oulton, Silverstone and Rockingham.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

It's a fair point. Why run an S3 FWD? If they went for the S3 over the A3, it surely means they wanted quattro to give them the option of RWD. If they wanted FWD, an A3 would have done?


Who's going to Brands then?

Maybe the s3 just looks nicer.

 

[neljack]

 

[Bo]

I hate MG, but I love that livery to bits.

 

[cunny17]

I hate MG, but I love that livery to bits.

MG or JP

 

[Bo]

MG or JP

Both. Can't stand Tordoff either, he seems to have picked up Plato's whiney arrogance. The team just screams "turn up with a smug face and complain".

 

[MagpieRacer]

Who's going to Brands then?

Me! I am! Hailwoods grandstand, race day only.

 

[Roo]

Who's going to Brands then?

*raises hand*

 

[R0ssingt0n]

I'm tempted to go to Brands, depends on how much money I have to spare...

 

[MatskiMonk]

Haven't made up my mind yet. I'll probably go, but I'm not sure yet. I need to have a look at the British GT and Blanpain Calenders, see what else might be coming up.

 

[Ardius]

Definitely going to Oulton Park, I'm considering going to a second round for the first time ever as this season is shaping up to be a special one.
I'm either going to try and make Donington or maybe Silverstone or Rockingham as they're next closest.

Considering the S3 is 4WD and the A class has a 4WD version are they going to be front or rear drive?

4WD is not permitted in the BTCC, and as both the S3 and A Class come in FF, they must use the FF layout. The reason Austin's A4 was allowed to be RWD was because the drivetrain or gearbox only fits that way (IIRC?) and they were given special dispensation.
All cars must match their UK roadcar equivelant, the only car that doesn't is the A4.

 

[Christian_C]

I think some of you have missed Clark's point slightly.

As I understand it he wasn't saying it would be 4WD and given how I know he follows the championship quite closely don't believe he would think 4WD would be allowed.

I think the point was that given that both of these cars come in different configurations (FF and 4WD). Would either team try to use the same argument as the A4's to gain the RWD startline traction advantage by claiming that the base model they were using was the 4WD version.

 

[TheCracker]

Why do they bother calling it an S3 instead of an A3 anyway? Marketing guff i imagine

 

[Bo]

Why do they bother calling it an S3 instead of an A3 anyway? Marketing guff i imagine

Probably based off an S3 rather than a normal A3. Also it sounds faster

 

[MatskiMonk]

I think the point was that given that both of these cars come in different configurations (FF and 4WD). Would either team try to use the same argument as the A4's to gain the RWD startline traction advantage by claiming that the base model they were using was the 4WD version.

The S3 is only with quattro 4WD, so again, why use the S3 if they didn't plan to use it for RWD... unless..

Why do they bother calling it an S3 instead of an A3 anyway? Marketing guff i imagine

Yup, Marketing.

I'm pretty sure no other component/aspect of the what makes an S3 an S3, and not an A3, would go in the bin during the conversion to an NGTC spec racecar.

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Surely if it was marketing Rob Austin would be using S4's instead of A4's? Unless I'm missing something here...

 

[Bo]

Surely if it was marketing Rob Austin would be using S4's instead of A4's? Unless I'm missing something here...

One team couldn't care less and gets on with pleasing the fans, whilst the other is obsessed with creating the right brand image for Audi. That's how i'm seeing this.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Some of the liveries this year are horrific:
The Good:
Moffat Cruze
Abbott's Audi
WSR BMW's

The Bad:
Tesco MG's
Depper's Civic
Clarke's Focus

 

[Bo]

Some of the liveries this year are horrific:
The Good:
Moffat Cruze
Abbott's Audi
WSR BMW's

The Bad:
Tesco MG's
Depper's Civic
Clarke's Focus

I love that MG livery. Depper's civic isn't too bad, but Clarke's Focus and Newsham's Focus make me want to wash my eyes out.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Some pics of the Rotek S3

 

[Bo]

Here's a good shot of the MG:

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Here's a good shot of the MG:

It looks like a 5 year old found flood fill on MS paint.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

It looks like a 5 year old found flood fill on MS paint.

Also false advertising! We run the race cars on tesco 99 as well as my mate's 2x range rovers, s class, xf and bentley flying spur and he's never saved 20p a litre.


Although his wife hasn't paid for any shopping for over a year

 

[AudiMan2011]

MG's new livery for this year is their least impressive to me. The first one they had with the more predominant blue and black livery was the best.

 

[mister dog]

It looks like a 5 year old found flood fill on MS paint.

That sir, is a spot on description

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Earlier this week a BMW Compact Cup racer (called Neil Trotter) won £108million on the Lottery. Apparently he wants to use a small amount of it to get a BTCC guest drive.

http://www.itv.com/btcc/euromillions-lottery-winner-loves-his-btcc