2016/17 Premier League & General Football Discussion
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Newcastle MD Lee Charnly released without charge, both clubs were raided in relation to the HMRC's ongoing investigation in to suspected tax fraud, their training grounds were raided too and Chelsea were asked to provide evidence but are not being investigated, a few French clubs are also part of the investigation in relation to transfers between them and the two clubs.
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FIFA are actually doing something right!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39726260
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39726260
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Saturday
Crystal Palace v Burnley (5.30 BT)
Southampton v Hull
Stoke v West Brom
Sunderland v Bournemouth
West Brom v Leicester
Sunday
Everton v Chelsea (2.05 Sky)
Man United v Swansea (12pm BT)
Middlesbrough v Man City
Tottenham v Arsenal (4.30 Sky)
Monday Night
Watford v Liverpool (8pm Sky)
I know this sounds rich coming from someone who supports a team whose games are on TV a lot, but is it just me or have Crystal Palace been TV a lot lately??
Crystal Palace v Burnley (5.30 BT)
Southampton v Hull
Stoke v West Brom
Sunderland v Bournemouth
West Brom v Leicester
Sunday
Everton v Chelsea (2.05 Sky)
Man United v Swansea (12pm BT)
Middlesbrough v Man City
Tottenham v Arsenal (4.30 Sky)
Monday Night
Watford v Liverpool (8pm Sky)
I know this sounds rich coming from someone who supports a team whose games are on TV a lot, but is it just me or have Crystal Palace been TV a lot lately??
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- m8h3r
I'd put money on Villa being back before them, not that either will be something I expect to see next year.
Edit: I wouldn't like to be in your position today @MUSC4EVER
Do you cheer for Swansea to win and take a step towards survival or do you go for Man United to take a step towards top 4.
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That was a difficult watch, Swansea deserve a point as they were they better team for much of it, United just not finishing teams off once again and we lucky to get a point, the penalty as definitely not a penalty, better result for Swansea and not United.
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It just isn't.
I can just about understand people who 'support' teams in other countries. I can more readily understand people who support their local non-league team (or their dad's, or whatever). These teams will either never meet in competition or will meet exceptionally rarely - a freak FA Cup draw or an unusual set of results that see them meeting in Europe.
But you can't support two teams that meet twice a season or more because they're in the same league in the same country. As soon as you want your team not to win, you're not supporting them, and if your two teams meet you either want one of them to lose (so you don't support them) or for them to draw (so you don't support either of them).
Next weekend, Sheffield Wednesday play Fulham. Fulham may be the most dangerous team in the playoffs, with the highest amount of goals scored in the division* and if we lose or draw, we will avoid meeting them until the playoff final - thus standing the best chance of getting to the playoff final and then on to the Premier League. If we beat them, we will face them in the playoff semi-finals and stand a higher chance of being knocked out.
I want us to win, because I support the team and want us to win every game. And if we beat them once, we can beat them again (and then again).
*They're probably thinking exactly the same thing about us - we've won six in a row, kept 16 clean sheets and have the lowest goals conceded outside the top two, with the Championship's record goalscorer, two Scottish internationals and Fernando Forestieri up front.
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You can't support anything by wanting it not to succeed.
Well, doesn't someone seem a teensy bit offended now?
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Who said anything about that?
I can't even articulate how little I care about your opinion regarding how "real" of a fan I am of anything. I'm just tired of seeing you spout this same No True Scotsman bull:censored: in this thread twenty times a year.
No one cares if some bitter Wednesday fan thinks they're a 'fake' supporter. You've made your opinion clear plenty of times in the past. Give it a rest.
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I did, in the post you took great offence to. You read it before taking offence, right?
Not responding would have been a clearer signal that you don't care. Especially as I didn't address you.
The fact you've responded twice, and with quite the attitude, suggests you care enough to be offended about it.
Again, I've not said anything about 'real' fans (or 'fake' ones) - just that one cannot support something if one does not want it to succeed.
If this offends you... oh well.
Again, I've not said anything about 'real' fans (or 'fake' ones) - just that one cannot support something if one does not want it to succeed.
If this offends you... oh well.
Also
at 'bitter'. At least you care enough about me to remember who I support though, I guess.Well, since you asked so nicely
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Yay for pedantic differences! Sure, you haven't specifically called anyone a fake supporter. Please explain, in detail, what you mean then when someone says they are a supporter of a club and you say that can not be true. The obvious implication is that you think they're faking support or a plastic fan, and you've done nothing to suggest an alternative explanation. So?
Also cheers for assuming I'm offended just because I call you out. As I said, the only reason I've bothered is I'm tired of seeing this merry-go-round come up every couple months when someone dares to call themselves a supporter of something.
If there was a way to put someone on an ignore list for only one thread I would have just done that and moved on. Since there isn't and you generally provide quality posts elsewhere on the site, I'd rather try to sort it out. It seems very uncharacteristic of you to hold so firmly to such obvious bias on this when you call people out often enough for the same elsewhere.
Also cheers for assuming I'm offended just because I call you out. As I said, the only reason I've bothered is I'm tired of seeing this merry-go-round come up every couple months when someone dares to call themselves a supporter of something.
If there was a way to put someone on an ignore list for only one thread I would have just done that and moved on. Since there isn't and you generally provide quality posts elsewhere on the site, I'd rather try to sort it out. It seems very uncharacteristic of you to hold so firmly to such obvious bias on this when you call people out often enough for the same elsewhere.
