2019 Porsche 911 (992)

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992 Turbo



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So shiny. That looks more like an ingame Need For Speed screenshot.
 
I'm still not feeling the 992 generation yet, but that's how I felt early on about the 991s. While that Turbo looks nice and all, my excitement will come out with the GT3/ RS models.
 
The turbo looks far more aggressive. It changes my opinion about the styling of the 992 for sure. Love it.
 
992 GT3

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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1118509_2021-porsche-911-gt3-spy-shots-and-video
 
Looks like it'll have swan-neck mounts on the rear wing, much like its racing cousins.

Though I doubt they'll be that chunky on the final production model.
 
I haven't been to a Porsche Center so I wonder if the new 992 is in the showrooms.
 
kikie
The new GTS is probably going to be as wide as the GT3.
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It will be as wide as the last GT3, since it'll likely use the same shell as we've seen on the 992s already (and there's no width difference for 4s anymore). Weirdly enough, the 992 is as exactly as wide as the 991 GT3 — down to the millimetre.

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Looks like it'll have swan-neck mounts on the rear wing, much like its racing cousins.

Though I doubt they'll be that chunky on the final production model.
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I'm trying to think of road-going cars with swan-necks and coming up short. Will be cool to see.

kikie
I haven't been to a Porsche Center so I wonder if the new 992 is in the showrooms.
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I think they should be hitting dealerships in your neck of the woods either now, or in a matter of weeks. It's later in the summer for our side of the pond IIRC.
 
SlipZtrEm
It will be as wide as the last GT3, since it'll likely use the same shell as we've seen on the 992s already (and there's no width difference for 4s anymore). Weirdly enough, the 992 is as exactly as wide as the 991 GT3 — down to the millimetre.
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No, I was saying that the new GTS (992) is going to be as wide as the new GT3. The 992 is now as wide as the 991.2 GTS and the new GTS is going to be wider than the new 992 and the 991.2 GTS.

In other words, the new 992 GTS is going to even wider as the standard 992 and the previous 991.2 GTS.
 
kikie
No, I was saying that the new GTS (992) is going to be as wide as the new GT3. The 992 is now as wide as the 991.2 GTS and the new GTS is going to be wider than the new 992 and the 991.2 GTS.

In other words, the new 992 GTS is going to even wider as the standard 992 and the previous 991.2 GTS.
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If the new GTS is wider than standard 992s, that'd be breaking from tradition. The 997, 991.1, and 991.2 GTS models all simply borrowed from the mainline Carrera 4s — but since there's no width difference between C2 and C4 this gen, it stands to figure the GTS will be the same width as well.
 
SlipZtrEm
If the new GTS is wider than standard 992s, that'd be breaking from tradition. The 997, 991.1, and 991.2 GTS models all simply borrowed from the mainline Carrera 4s — but since there's no width difference between C2 and C4 this gen, it stands to figure the GTS will be the same width as well.
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That is what I read, the GTS going to be wider than the standard 992 models.

Because the standard 992 models are all the same width, the same width as the previous C4 and the 991.2 GTS, the 992 GTS has to differentiate itself from the standard 992 models and thus will be wider than the standard 992 models.
If this is true, then Porsche isn't breaking from tradition because Porsche is going to make the 992 GTS wider to differentiate the GTS models with the standard 992 models.
If the 992 S is as wide as the 991.2 GTS (which it is), in that case, there is no need for a GTS with the same width as the 992 S, except for some extra power and features. So Porsche is going to make the 992 GTS wider than the 992 S.
The 992 GT3 will be as wide as the 992 GTS but probably with a different engine, with a wing and other stuff that the 992 GTS won't have.

I could be wrong though. You know much more about cars than I do.
 
kikie
That is what I read, the GTS going to be wider than the standard 992 models.

Because the standard 992 models are all the same width, the same width as the previous C4 and the 991.2 GTS, the 992 GTS has to differentiate itself from the standard 992 models and thus will be wider than the standard 992 models.
If this is true, then Porsche isn't breaking from tradition because Porsche is going to make the 992 GTS wider to differentiate the GTS models with the standard 992 models.
If the 992 S is as wide as the 991.2 GTS (which it is), in that case, there is no need for a GTS with the same width as the 992 S, except for some extra power and features. So Porsche is going to make the 992 GTS wider than the 992 S.
The 992 GT3 will be as wide as the 992 GTS but probably with a different engine, with a wing and other stuff that the 992 GTS won't have.

I could be wrong though. You know much more about cars than I do.
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I doubt that last bit!

I've not heard those rumours until now. It certainly could be possible, as it'd give the GTS a bit more of a purpose in the model line outside of "we turned the boost up a bit." Interesting...
 
SlipZtrEm
I'm trying to think of road-going cars with swan-necks and coming up short. Will be cool to see.
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Lamborghini has sort of adopted them with the Performante, and the Jota using one as the central support for its spoiler.
 
Had another bash at the configurator today, after spending a few days driving a 992. Still like my first attempt, but reckon this is fairly classy too.

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GT Silver, with adaptive LEDs, and black exhaust and calipers on the outside, and the dark green leather/wood combo on the inside, with silver seatbelts to match the few aluminium elements. Ideally I'd want green fabric rather than leather but the fabric options are pretty limited.
 
homeforsummer
Had another bash at the configurator today, after spending a few days driving a 992. Still like my first attempt, but reckon this is fairly classy too.


GT Silver, with adaptive LEDs, and black exhaust and calipers on the outside, and the dark green leather/wood combo on the inside, with silver seatbelts to match the few aluminium elements. Ideally I'd want green fabric rather than leather but the fabric options are pretty limited.
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Not that I'm biased, but silver Porsches need red interiors. Also, I think the simpler wheels will age a little better.

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I've never liked the profile of the 991-era cars from the a-pillar forward. Looks wrong to me. Generally I think the 997 was a better looking car.
 
The wood trim is nice in the 992. I'd favour red seats with a black dash and wheel. Probably alloy trim, too.
 
homeforsummer
Had another bash at the configurator today, after spending a few days driving a 992. Still like my first attempt, but reckon this is fairly classy too.

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GT Silver, with adaptive LEDs, and black exhaust and calipers on the outside, and the dark green leather/wood combo on the inside, with silver seatbelts to match the few aluminium elements. Ideally I'd want green fabric rather than leather but the fabric options are pretty limited.​
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The color is perfect, just the a different touch :D
 
Back to the 992....

Amazing how far the 911 had evolved over the last 2 generations.

The 964 moved the game on from earlier cars adding ABS and power steering - they were more modern, but still kept the classic proportions. The 993 didn't really move anywhere other than styling. Then the 996 generation added water cooled engines, more sophisticated suspension, traction control and a very basic stability control, and also came with an improvement in refinement. 997 generation was simply an evolution of the 996... more classic shape, but still pretty unrefined compared to most things you'd buy new today.

Up to the 991, the 911 was primarily a sports car, but had the ability to do the touring and every day role. Yes, the cars evolved, but you could still feel the similarities.

The 991 generation has changed the role of the 911. I know they are technically better cars, but I'm not convinced they are more enjoyable sports cars... I haven't driven a 992, but the 991 is a very different car compared to a final generation 997... it's a lot bigger, and although not a huge amount heavier, they just feels bigger to drive. And the refinement levels are up there with BMW/Merc/Audi saloon cars. They just aren't different enough to every day cars to make me want to just drive one for the sake of it.

My 996 has been off the road for the past month - combination of a water leak and me being too busy at work to get it sorted. So I've been mooching around in our Touareg. I picked the 996 up from my indy on Friday... just driving it home it felt so unrefined... it's noisy, the clutch is heavy, the gearchange is stiff, the ride is hard, the steering is constantly jiggling away over every bump and camber... it just feels mechanical... unrefined, but in a wonderful way!

The modern stuff isn't for me... if anything, I'd rather go older.
 
I sat in a 992 on Monday, and I was actually pleasantly surprised. The cabin is probably larger than the 991, but the styling and slightly lower centre console make it feel both airier and more intimate, which is a neat trick. On the other hand, I didn't really like the door handles, as they're a bit of a pain to use at first, and the PDK gear lever is too small to fit nicely in your hand like those on the 991. Otherwise, it's rather pretty, and the heavily restyled interior makes it feel like a step forward from the 991 without making the 991 feel inferior. It does, as Stotty mentioned, feel more like a GT/luxury car that's also a sports car, rather than the other way around. Obviously I've never driven any 911 so I can't comment there other than what I've heard and read from others, but it does feel like a modern luxury car inside with all the tech that they've added.
 

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