2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

  • Thread starter GTPNewsWire
  • 9,031 comments
  • 1,673,903 views
Of course I do. And I’m definitely not going to change it, although STR doesn’t exist anymore, sadly.
To me it was a strong and Meaningful Message we tried to give the People out there struggling with their Anxiety and Depression Issues.
I was able to help a few People at least for a short period of time as they tried to get in Contact with me over PSN and I was chatting with some of them.
I‘m working as a Security Staff in a Refugee Camp here in Germany for many years.
Everyday I talk to people with Mental Issues coming from War Areas, Kids and Adults. The Stories I get to hear are really sad, but that’s another Story.
Anyway, to me STR is still alive as it is my Message to everyone. Stronger together Racing. That’s why I just play for fun, to have a good time with similar minded people. And I’m always happy if I can help People to get motivated again.
Life is a struggle everyday and if a Videogame can help bringing us together, well than I play with even more joy :cheers:

I’m glad you’re keeping STR alive my friend. I signed with Ferrari too for 2021 so it means both our GTS lives will be a struggle at least on worn tires haha I’ve been having a rough time for a while and that’s why I had to stop the STR work but this game is making my gamer life fun again. Especially with the 458 cars being a great combo this FIA season. Tire wear on Maggiore wasn’t an issue and I was flying at the end of the race. I hope your points issues get resolved quick. Fuji is tough in the 458 but it’ll be a fun challenge.
 
Last edited:
The rankings are useless when a driver in a lower split can get far more points than a higher split driver who finishes in the back half. EMEA has this problem in spades and it's a lot more prevalent in the Americas now.

I don’t get this.
Let’s say I make a split in last spot. I am at 100 dr.
Below me is a split and there’s a 99 driver.
I finish last, he wins, beating a room of 99 and below dr drivers.

He deserves more points doesn’t he? He finished ahead of others when I just trailed along behind, maybe got timed out.
I’ve just never understood this complaint.
If there’s more drivers with equal points and more splits fill up it seems wrong to give the last place finisher more points than a guy who won, given similar dr.
Why punish the guy who didn’t make top split?
Not his fault that there were many entrants...
I’m just curious about this complaint I clearly don’t understand it.

The only thing that should matter is the lobbies points total not which split it is.
 
Last edited:
I don’t get this.
Let’s say I make a split in last spot. I am at 100 dr.
Below me is a split and there’s a 99 driver.
I finish last, he wins, beating a room of 99 and below dr drivers.

He deserves more points doesn’t he? He finished ahead of others when I just trailed along behind, maybe got timed out.
I’ve just never understood this complaint.
If there’s more drivers with equal points and more splits fill up it seems wrong to give the last place finisher more points than a guy who won, given similar dr.
Why punish the guy who didn’t make top split?
Not his fault that there were many entrants...
I’m just curious about this complaint I clearly don’t understand it.

The only thing that should matter is the lobbies points total not which split it is.
Well, "beating" others is one thing for sure but people in top splits are usually comparing total racing times to judge a performance.
And pretty often, a driver finishing 6-7th in top split will have a faster total time than the winner in 2nd split, although getting way less points.
So, in absolute terms, a driver with a better performance will be rewarded with less points.
That's the real complaint, I believe.
 
I don’t get this.
Let’s say I make a split in last spot. I am at 100 dr.
Below me is a split and there’s a 99 driver.
I finish last, he wins, beating a room of 99 and below dr drivers.

He deserves more points doesn’t he? He finished ahead of others when I just trailed along behind, maybe got timed out.
I’ve just never understood this complaint.
If there’s more drivers with equal points and more splits fill up it seems wrong to give the last place finisher more points than a guy who won, given similar dr.
Why punish the guy who didn’t make top split?
Not his fault that there were many entrants...
I’m just curious about this complaint I clearly don’t understand it.

The only thing that should matter is the lobbies points total not which split it is.

Because top split includes World Tour winners, FIA GTC World champions, etc. Currently in Asia the 20th ranked person in that room is at around 78k DR. It is a big achievement just to get there and unless you get a great result there is not much reward for it currently.

Currently the person who wins the second split race in Asia gets over 330 points. Which is worth more than a P5-P6 in top split.

The person who wins third split (where the cut-off is around 65k DR for example) gets around 300 points which is worth more than a P8-P9 in top split.

The people who do well in their races will gain DR and people who don't will lose DR regardless of their split, which is fine because it allows people to move up/down a split. But giving someone in split 2 more points than 75% of split 1 is not really representative... but that's just my opinion.
 
I don’t get this.
Let’s say I make a split in last spot. I am at 100 dr.
Below me is a split and there’s a 99 driver.
I finish last, he wins, beating a room of 99 and below dr drivers.

He deserves more points doesn’t he? He finished ahead of others when I just trailed along behind, maybe got timed out.
I’ve just never understood this complaint.
If there’s more drivers with equal points and more splits fill up it seems wrong to give the last place finisher more points than a guy who won, given similar dr.
Why punish the guy who didn’t make top split?
Not his fault that there were many entrants...
I’m just curious about this complaint I clearly don’t understand it.

The only thing that should matter is the lobbies points total not which split it is.
I'll put it this way. If you gather all the top drivers in GT Sport right now into one lobby, the last place driver in that lobby would only get about 100 points or so. The game would basically say anyone that can get more than 100 points is "better" than that last place driver when in reality, that last place driver would beat just about everyone that outscored them head to head.

In other words, the best way for anyone to score max points is not being in the highest split possible but being in the highest split where a win is possible.
 
Well, "beating" others is one thing for sure but people in top splits are usually comparing total racing times to judge a performance.
And pretty often, a driver finishing 6-7th in top split will have a faster total time than the winner in 2nd split, although getting way less points.
So, in absolute terms, a driver with a better performance will be rewarded with less points.
That's the real complaint, I believe.

I understand both sides of the argument. Perhaps it's an idea to make points variable based on total driving time? The fastest person (he could be in 4th split) gets 400 points and all others a percentage of that relative to that total driving time?

Maybe ad points for first to 20th place for flavour and your done.

Of course you won't know for how many points you were driving exactly, but is that really a problem since you won't really know how you compare to others until race day is over anyway?

To me it's a funny system to begin with anyway. Currently the best 5 players on a given race day are most probably the 5 winners of 5 totally different races.

I find it amusing how PD always tries to make this work with each season's rule set being more convoluted than the last one.
 
Sorry guys not been on much posting but still reading your posts everyday.

I did the FIA races ok but still not bothering with the Dailies much with only 4 races in 2 weeks.

Firstly, something that has worked for me and might or might not help others. I use a G29 and have been happy to more or less run with the same settings on the Force Feedback ever since I set it up but started playing around with is the past week. I have reduced everything to just 2 not although the last change was the Froce feedback which had always been high, when I dropped it to 2 I took almost 2 seconds of my practice lap in the manufactures Gr.4 race and noticed I'm getting way less tyre noise, this also helped in Gr.1 but on the flip side I used the wheel for the Karts and not the controller this time but turned it to max for the Karts and it worked for me, just want to shared this as it might help some.

I did the Karts on my Alt-acc as not too bothered with that Nation's this time and was surprised I could keep the kart on the track this time. Not much to write about Qualified 17th finished 14th with 2 dropouts ahead so only 1 place gained but al least I wasn't last although I was lapped by top 2 who were just miles ahead of the rest.

The GR.4 race in the Porsche on my main-acc was ok from the point that I had a crap qualifying in 14th and managed to pick my way through up to 5th with 2 laps left only to run off the track at the top of the hill heading for the start/finish straight when I was holding back to let 3rd & 4th try take each other out. It was probably the slowest I entered the corner all race but still lost it and straight away I was checking the tyres thinking that it was them as no one behind me at all. Recovered but ended up 10th and a bit annoyed for such a silly error. I will still only run one slot per race even though I know I would have done better, keeps the pressure on to get the job done first time and I'm in no way having a go at those who do more slots, if I had the time I would probably do so myself.

I did do a second race on Alt-acc because I wanted to try the Toyota 86 as I was slightly faster in it in practice. I qualified 5th and it was a messy few laps at the start because of the 2 guys from South Africa around me lagging out and I gave them space but others didn't and it was a crazy few laps where I even hit a guy who braked way too early for the hairpin and I got 2sec penalty even though I did just barely tap him and not cause his car to move in any way I could see. I was down to 12th after the penalty but I had the remaining guy from south Africa glitching in front of me for a few pals before I passed him and once I did I just settled into a rhythm and started making up places, some with nice passing and a few because they took each other out. I finished 4th in the end but guy ahead in M4 was running out of fuel and crossed the line .03 sec behind him so nearly made 3rd and if I hadn't been to conservative on the last lap as I had a 3 sec gap behind I would have got 3rd, still despite all the crazy drivers in the race I did enjoy it.

As I pointed out in a reply to an earlier post the guy from South Africa got some abuse from 2 or 3 on the others who just don't understand what was happening with his connection and I do wonder is there any point reporting guys who abuse people like this.
 
Last edited:
Because top split includes World Tour winners, FIA GTC World champions, etc. Currently in Asia the 20th ranked person in that room is at around 78k DR. It is a big achievement just to get there and unless you get a great result there is not much reward for it currently.

Currently the person who wins the second split race in Asia gets over 330 points. Which is worth more than a P5-P6 in top split.

The person who wins third split (where the cut-off is around 65k DR for example) gets around 300 points which is worth more than a P8-P9 in top split.

The people who do well in their races will gain DR and people who don't will lose DR regardless of their split, which is fine because it allows people to move up/down a split. But giving someone in split 2 more points than 75% of split 1 is not really representative... but that's just my opinion.

The problem of points overlapping is a lot worse now with the combined regions in Manu, because the DR spread is less between each split. In Nations Oceania where the DR spread remains high (e.g. top split can range from 50k-100k), I think it's a lot more reasonable. Generally you want to be in top split because the points drop off for second split down is quite big.

Anyway, as someone who doesn't care about getting into finals, I've always said the easiest solution would just be to give points for top split only. Or make every race a Top 16 SS with a big enough multiplier that it's impossible to outscore someone in top split, no matter if you win in a lower split. That way everyone will fight tooth and nail to boost their DR to get into top split, and none of this sandbagging DR nonsense trying to get easy wins against lesser competition.

I think the harsh truth is though, if you're not consistently a top 3 driver in top split, you won't get enough points over a season to make a final event so the overlap doesn't matter at the end of the day.
 
Last edited:
What Stats Page is that? I‘ve never seen that before?! Anyway, i guess I just have a bad luck streak lately…but no worries.
I just play for fun, 0 Points or 100/200 or whatever it may be…I’m not going to a World Tour :lol:, so it’s not important to me ;)
But thx for the info :cheers:
https://gtsport.r1s3.net Pop your PSN into the box at the top and then click the two down arrows in a circle. There's a few pages of stats there. This came from the 'recent races' tab.
 
I think the harsh truth is though, if you're not consistently a top 3 driver in top split, you won't get enough points over a season to make a final event so the overlap doesn't matter at the end of the day.

You're right, but that's a separate problem - that's why you find some people running 3-4 slots in the hope of having the stars align in one of them.

It's pretty taxing especially when so much luck is involved in qualifying.

Exhibit A (courtesy of @GT5Power)

 
Last edited:
You're right, but that's a separate problem - that's why you find some people running 3-4 slots in the hope of having the stars align in one of them.

It's pretty taxing especially when so much luck is involved in qualifying.

Exhibit A (courtesy of @GT5Power)



Yes exactly my point. If you spend so much time micro managing your DR to be in the correct split, ultra analyzing every car's BOP before the season starts, practicing multiple race simulations and do every slot. You need every star, moon, sun and planet to align to juuuust scrape through into a final event. Chances are, you'd be that guy that just hangs in 12th and doesn't make any impact in the world tours. Is that worth it? Maybe if you count the travel as a free holiday. But rather than spend that much time, effort and stress I think I'd just rather have fun in the game, and take an actual holiday in my own time :lol: If you're fast enough, you're fast enough regardless of what PD throws at you. Points, BOP nerf, penalties, disconnects, whatever. The Hizals and Fragas will still qualify regardless. For the rest of us, it would be nice if the points system are fairer but in the end, it probably wouldn't change the end result :)

Both you and I have been playing the game since release and we all know what PD is like. At some point, banging your head against a brick wall is just gonna hurt yourself. If you want to make it as a simracing esports pro, there are lots of other games that have better organized online structure (albeit none with the coverage that GT has). If I have your speed, I guess my advice is don't just put all your eggs in the same basket. ACC, rFactor, iRacing, Raceroom, there's so much more out there than just GT 👍
 
Yes exactly my point. If you spend so much time micro managing your DR to be in the correct split, ultra analyzing every car's BOP before the season starts, practicing multiple race simulations and do every slot. You need every star, moon, sun and planet to align to juuuust scrape through into a final event. Chances are, you'd be that guy that just hangs in 12th and doesn't make any impact in the world tours. Is that worth it? Maybe if you count the travel as a free holiday. But rather than spend that much time, effort and stress I think I'd just rather have fun in the game, and take an actual holiday in my own time :lol: If you're fast enough, you're fast enough regardless of what PD throws at you. Points, BOP nerf, penalties, disconnects, whatever. The Hizals and Fragas will still qualify regardless. For the rest of us, it would be nice if the points system are fairer but in the end, it probably wouldn't change the end result :)

Both you and I have been playing the game since release and we all know what PD is like. At some point, banging your head against a brick wall is just gonna hurt yourself. If you want to make it as a simracing esports pro, there are lots of other games that have better organized online structure (albeit none with the coverage that GT has). If I have your speed, I guess my advice is don't just put all your eggs in the same basket. ACC, rFactor, iRacing, Raceroom, there's so much more out there than just GT 👍

The only problem with those other games is that a PC is super expensive right now, so paying $2500+ just to be able to access a game is a bit much for most people I’d imagine. :)
 
I understand both sides of the argument. Perhaps it's an idea to make points variable based on total driving time? The fastest person (he could be in 4th split) gets 400 points and all others a percentage of that relative to that total driving time?
Then you'd have aliens on alt accounts blazing through lower DR races and people at DR B to D would sometimes be outscoring those at A+ just because they were able to benefit from an alien on a low-ranked alt account setting the fastest total time for that slot.

Also, I like to know what points I'm going to be fighting for before the race begins. I don't want it to be a surprise at the end of the race.
 
I'll put it this way. If you gather all the top drivers in GT Sport right now into one lobby, the last place driver in that lobby would only get about 100 points or so. The game would basically say anyone that can get more than 100 points is "better" than that last place driver when in reality, that last place driver would beat just about everyone that outscored them head to head.

In other words, the best way for anyone to score max points is not being in the highest split possible but being in the highest split where a win is possible.
It's simple. You can't have a system where people in one split above another would always earn more points than people in the split below. No one would move. You need a system that has people moving up and down, not staying where they are, or it simply doesn't work.

PD are not stupid. The points system is good, it works well, and encourages people to win, not to cruise in 15th just because they are in the top split.
 
It's simple. You can't have a system where people in one split above another would always earn more points than people in the split below. No one would move. You need a system that has people moving up and down, not staying where they are, or it simply doesn't work.

PD are not stupid. The points system is good, it works well, and encourages people to win, not to cruise in 15th just because they are in the top split.
Don't mix up FIA points and DR points.

You move splits based on DR, not FIA points.
 
Don't mix up FIA points and DR points.

You move splits based on DR, not FIA points.
I know, I get it... but encourage people to race, not to be happy with where they are ranked. It's easier to get a bottom 10 in the split above than a top ten in the split below. The races aren't a reward for your DR (Which you can game, by the way... another thing to think about... people fluff theirs up in Dailies just to be in higher rooms, that shouldn't be rewarded with automatically higher FIA points...) ...the races are competitions to earn points, which are organized using the DR. If they're simply a reward for your current DR status, what's the point!?

PD doesn't do everything right, but when it comes to DR and FIA points, I think they are really smart and I appreciate the system in place. It's simple: get into the top 5 and it all takes care of itself. Racing should be somewhat 'unfair' in that regard... win, or don't.
 
A question on splits and FIA / DR points - how do you know which split you're in? I just watched a Kie 25 video and he said he was in the second split, not top split. How does one know which split they're in??

That's just knowing who the top drivers are and how their DR tends to sort out. He's basically making an educated guess rather than a solid statement of fact. Even though he is saying it with a high degree of certainty.
 
I know, I get it... but encourage people to race, not to be happy with where they are ranked. It's easier to get a bottom 10 in the split above than a top ten in the split below. The races aren't a reward for your DR (Which you can game, by the way... another thing to think about... people fluff theirs up in Dailies just to be in higher rooms, that shouldn't be rewarded with automatically higher FIA points...) ...the races are competitions to earn points, which are organized using the DR. If they're simply a reward for your current DR status, what's the point!?

PD doesn't do everything right, but when it comes to DR and FIA points, I think they are really smart and I appreciate the system in place. It's simple: get into the top 5 and it all takes care of itself. Racing should be somewhat 'unfair' in that regard... win, or don't.

Winning split 2 is a million times easier than trying to beat Lightning, Fraga and the other top aliens in proper top splits. The guy who finishes 5th, say 5s behind Lighting, should get more points than the guy who won the split below with a 10+ second slower overall race time.


A question on splits and FIA / DR points - how do you know which split you're in? I just watched a Kie 25 video and he said he was in the second split, not top split. How does one know which split they're in??

He is always in a voice chat with other top drivers, that helps. But basically, if you don’t have world tour aliens at the top of your split, it’s not top split. The rest is just guess work based on who is in the room with you. :)
 
Last edited:
Really quick update for Manu...

Crap :lol:


Blew the final sector on my first qualy lap, blew the first sector on my final qualy lap, did two 1:28.1s for 13th instead of a 27.8-27.9 to put me 3rd, and my race was like this...

PS_App_20210428_072757.jpeg


Don't know how many points I got for finishing 12th, didn't look!

Looking forward to my first Nations race in an age tomorrow though, Gr.1 at Spa with a grid start... what could possibly go wrong??
 
Just tried some FP at Fuji for the Manufacturers Series. My best time was 1:37.872 using the Genesis and with BB +2. I’m not sure if I just drove better for the lap that I moved the BB from +1 to +2, but I was over half a second faster with BB set to +2. Plus, I think this BB setting will really help with balancing out the tire wear.
 
Then you'd have aliens on alt accounts blazing through lower DR races and people at DR B to D would sometimes be outscoring those at A+ just because they were able to benefit from an alien on a low-ranked alt account setting the fastest total time for that slot.

Also, I like to know what points I'm going to be fighting for before the race begins. I don't want it to be a surprise at the end of the race.

Maybe I misunderstand you, but I was suggesting points on the basis of each individual player his own total time. Between all players in all races of the day. Kind of like the Kudosprime leaderboard. But then as a result of all players after all races are done.

If an alien would go through the trouble of creating an alt or even five, blazing through C lobbies, how exactly would that help other drivers in that race?

If your suggesting they can keep up in his slipstream... that's just not realistic, as I can't even keep up with someone who is out of my league by .500 sec right now. And I'm not talking alien.

Now. A point can be made about all aliens all creating 5 acounts and thus holding places 1 through 1000, but that has more to do with being able to enforce a rule (one account per player) and setting up the neccessary infrastructure to actually do that. Reporting for example.

In this suggestion I have not touched upon qualifying. And how that could help prevent what you describe. In that context I suggest a pre-race flying lap (one lap) that sets your time. Matchmaking would be done for all slots based on the times people made during their one shots.

Now if I follow you train of thought all aliens (being smart aliens) would simply qualify poorly in the hopes of racing poor guys like me. This could be true, but then that would mean the actual fast guys would meet each other in their comkon slow room. No win there.

And don't forget I could do the same. Where does it end. There is no way of calculating. But then there is an easy solution for this as well. How about making qualifying time a part of either the total time (for scoring purposes) or add points for that as well.

It's true, you don't know for how many points you'd be fighting. That can be inconvenient. But in my view your focus should be on just achieving the best result in that race.

I've had that mindset too: hey I just scored 30 points for 4th in this race, should I go again? I might lose them? Until I realised after a couple of races just how silly that is when don't even race 99,9% of the people in that list.

Don't get me wrong, I know how many points I have, I watch the leaderboard, make sure I do 4 races in Nations even though only 2 really interest me, and all that. Because that is the system and I work within it.

By the end of the day it's like @OJBrit said a few posts back when he discribed how his heart started racing when he noticed I was in the race. I had the exact same feeling and THAT's what really counts. People race people they know. It makes racing interesting.

All those aliens you describe taking shortcuts... what do you think will happen when that tight knit group of aliens meet in Tokyo? "You here Tidg? Remind me again when I raced you?"
Believe me, that group is so small, they know who's who and what's what.
Nobody wants to be THAT guy in the post race bar/lobby who is ignored by all others.

The world of golf provides excellent examples with its handicap system and what happens to your reputation when you try to manipulate it. Again: people play people and groups have self regulating ways of doing thing.

Racing at its fundament is time. Every and all scoring should reflect that as best it can. I think there is something worth concidering here.

Cheers

Seth
 
But in my view your focus should be on just achieving the best result in that race.
This pretty much. :cheers:
I always look across the list to see if I have raced anyone before to my knowledge. Mostly no, I don't recognise anyone.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter who is in the lobby, my aim is the same. Get the best result possible. Anything else is secondary.
 
A question on splits and FIA / DR points - how do you know which split you're in? I just watched a Kie 25 video and he said he was in the second split, not top split. How does one know which split they're in??
It’s easiest to know if you know enough people within range of your own DR and/or search through YT/Twitch videos of FIA races for the room points. Don't need the complete table, just what is the points for a victory.
This pretty much. :cheers:
I always look across the list to see if I have raced anyone before to my knowledge. Mostly no, I don't recognise anyone.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter who is in the lobby, my aim is the same. Get the best result possible. Anything else is secondary.
My benchmarks are usually myself and the drivers I most often compete against. Again, GTS points/rankings are not ideal. Otherwise, the game is telling me I'm only the 6th best Nissan driver in the Americas and while I have never claimed to ever have had alien speed, I'm not that slow! :lol:
 
faster total time

I mean that’s ridiculous. Why race at all?
Just make world tour dependent on time trial times without racing at all.
Jmo

In other words, the best way for anyone to score max points is not being in the highest split possible but being in the highest split where a win is possible.

But winning the top split will always be the most points.

I understand both sides of the argument. Perhaps it's an idea to make points variable based on total driving time

NOWAY. That’s a time trial, not head to head. Jmo

The fastest person (he could be in 4th split) gets 400 points and all others a percentage of that relative to that total driving time?

Geez no.

I think the harsh truth is though, if you're not consistently a top 3 driver in top split, you won't get enough points over a season to make a final event so the overlap doesn't matter at the end of the day.

I was wondering if that works out

ou're right, but that's a separate problem - that's why you find some people running 3-4 slots in the hope of having the stars align in one of them.

It's pretty taxing especially when so much luck is involved in qualifying.

There’s a solution to it. One entry allowed per slot.
Issue a fixed amount of wild card second chances to cover potential disconnections. (3?)
What would be wrong with that?
In the lower ranks you have people entering every slot too hoping that they can make the first lap dives stick.
Why care if there’s another chance?
Jmo

he only problem with those other games is that a PC is super expensive right now, so paying $2500+ just to be able to access a game is a bit much for most people I’d imagine. :)

Here it’s not that bad. You could acquire something good enough for around 4-6 if you include used or built. 6-800 here would be a decent setup. Not 4K now but plenty usable.

It's simple. You can't have a system where people in one split above another would always earn more points than people in the split below. No one would move. You need a system that has people moving up and down, not staying where they are, or it simply doesn't work.

PD are not stupid. The points system is good, it works well, and encourages people to win, not to cruise in 15th just because they are in the top split.

This is what makes sense to me.
If it weren’t this way the whole entire season would depend on achieving top split first race of the year wouldn’t it?
I mean that would make top split a competition of 20 and no more.
 
Last edited:
Of course I do. And I’m definitely not going to change it, although STR doesn’t exist anymore, sadly.
To me it was a strong and Meaningful Message we tried to give the People out there struggling with their Anxiety and Depression Issues.
I was able to help a few People at least for a short period of time as they tried to get in Contact with me over PSN and I was chatting with some of them.
I‘m working as a Security Staff in a Refugee Camp here in Germany for many years.
Everyday I talk to people with Mental Issues coming from War Areas, Kids and Adults. The Stories I get to hear are really sad, but that’s another Story.
Anyway, to me STR is still alive as it is my Message to everyone. Stronger together Racing. That’s why I just play for fun, to have a good time with similar minded people. And I’m always happy if I can help People to get motivated again.
Life is a struggle everyday and if a Videogame can help bringing us together, well than I play with even more joy :cheers:

That is some fantastic and necessary work you're doing there. Personally I've struggled with Anxiety and Depression for years and then some. Racing has helped in the past year.

My hat off to you sir.
 
@Groundfish The Canadian $ is only worth about $0.80 to the USD, so it works out to a fair bit more up here. Most of the PC’s I’ve been seeing for sale, even used, are going from $1,500 to $3,500 CAD.


Agreed. I wouldn’t do it at that price. It’s pretty darn cool, but not THAT cool :).

Also @PirovacBoy

Love what you’re doing. Great service to humankind.
 
Last edited:
There’s a solution to it. One entry allowed per slot.
Issue a fixed amount of wild card second chances to cover potential disconnections. (3?)
What would be wrong with that?
In the lower ranks you have people entering every slot too hoping that they can make the first lap dives stick.
Why care if there’s another chance?

These championships would be so much more intense and enjoyable if they went back to a system like this again! In this day and age, I struggle to understand how they can't program the difference between someone manually exiting an FIA session, or disconnecting through loss of/poor internet, and either allow reentry or deny based on that coding logic.

One and done just makes more sense imo, and is usually all I can commit the time to anyways.
 
Back