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They did struggle a bit with their engine. They're probably fearful of a competent manufacturer showing up.
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Welp, that sounds like Ferrari's problem, not the problem of VAG or any other manufacturer.
I know that F1/Liberty don't see it that way, and will likely try to appease Ferrari, but I really hate how much negotiating power they have sometimes.
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I think with the cost cap in place and teams like Mclaren making huge profits it's entirely possible for both to join as competing operations like they did in WEC, though it would be odd to just be engine makers in that situation, possibly one as an engine and the other as a full team?
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If the engine development story with VAG is true, then it's typical butthurt Ferrari. I don't get how a team so far from the top for so long now (2007 was nearly 15 years ago, the same as 1994 Ferrari being away from 1979) can still hold itself like some immutable deity when it has effed up time after time after time.
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I agree, I think the supposed veto they have is silly, just as silly as letting the teams be in charge of their own rules upto a point tbh.
Saying that though, I am of the belief that F1 wouldn't be the same without Ferrari.
Saying that though, I am of the belief that F1 wouldn't be the same without Ferrari.
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Racefans now reporting Andretti is taking a majority stake in Sauber.
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Andretti tipped to take majority stake in Sauber's F1 team
CART Indycar champion and ex-F1 driver Michael Andretti is understood to be pursuing a takeover of Sauber, which runs Alfa Romeo's team.
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I really hope this deal happens, Sauber is running on borrowed time thanks to that Alfa Romeo deal and they could pull out at any moment, without that funding the team would be screwed.
It would be sad to see the Sauber name go, but I’d much rather an entity like Andretti Autosport take over rather than some other billionaire buying a seat for his son or an investment company only out there to flip assets.
It would be sad to see the Sauber name go, but I’d much rather an entity like Andretti Autosport take over rather than some other billionaire buying a seat for his son or an investment company only out there to flip assets.
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It's a done deal according to an (as I understand) very respected Brazilian journalist. I believe he is also Helio Castroneves' PR guy.
The Andretti part may be true but the Herta part is unlikely if not impossible, don't believe he has enough super license points.
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F1 has been making a huge push in the US since Liberty took over. There will also be two races in the US next year, they want an American driver badly.
Bernie would never allow clips to be uploaded on youtube for free, let alone have a streaming service. A real budget cap, big regulation change, names like Andretti Autosport and Audi/Porsche joining F1 becoming a real possibility for once. It feels like F1 is starting to come out of the dark ages.
Bernie would never allow clips to be uploaded on youtube for free, let alone have a streaming service. A real budget cap, big regulation change, names like Andretti Autosport and Audi/Porsche joining F1 becoming a real possibility for once. It feels like F1 is starting to come out of the dark ages.
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According to the boffins on reddit he's just short
But he could make up those 8 points if he does 800km of driving in the remaining free practice sessions this season. Seems unlikely, although not impossible. FIA could also fudge it so he can get it with a bit less.
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Youngest ever race winner in Indycar (18 years) in inferior equipment. He hasn’t done a proper challenge for the title yet in his 3 years but he has won at least one race in every full season he competed in. He seems like one of the top drivers in Indycar atm although the results may not show it. He’s also a pretty good endurance racer.
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I don't see Herta jumping to F1 so soon. Not while he could be a legit threat for the Indycar championship. Yes, there have been mistakes which have cost him at times, but he's only 21. With a little more experience, his consistency will pick up. And you'll see more of those races like the dominating run at Laguna Seca and coming from the back to win at Long Beach.
That's not to say I wouldn't love to see an American in F1 again. When was the last actual competitive driver from the US? Cheever? The only other seasons I can even think of since were Michael Andretti's rough stint with McLaren in '93, a struggling Speed in Toro Rosso's early days, and Rossi in an awful Manor.
That's not to say I wouldn't love to see an American in F1 again. When was the last actual competitive driver from the US? Cheever? The only other seasons I can even think of since were Michael Andretti's rough stint with McLaren in '93, a struggling Speed in Toro Rosso's early days, and Rossi in an awful Manor.
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To be fair the series, under its various names through the years has always been like that. In the 70s and 80s it was a cheaper option for American F1 drivers (Penske, Gurney, Andretti, Rahal, Cheever, Haas and the likes) then in the 90s it started to become a bit of a feeder series to F1 (Andretti, Villeneuve, Montoya, Da Matta, Bourdais come to mind) while also being a retirement home to ex-F1 drivers (Mansell, Blundell, Magnussen, Zanardi, Fittipaldi (both Emmo and Christian), Gugelmin, Moreno, Papis, Johansson, Danner and whoever else) and pretty much stayed that way ever since. It never truly was a standalone premier series and it never will be.
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Autosport now reporting it, seems like it’s going to happen. Even Croft was saying during FP3 to expect an announcement at the US GP.
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Andretti closing in on deal to takeover Alfa Romeo F1 team
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While Formula 1 exists I would argue no series could be in open wheel form, the amount of money in F1 compared to any other type of racing is just naturally going to attract the best and everyone else will get the leftovers.
There is though enough racing talent out there these days to have drivers that are good enough to be in f1 but for what ever reason just couldn't get to the grid, especially with the tiny 20 car grid it has.
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No more teal Mercedes. Whats aramcos color?
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Petronas committed to Mercedes F1 team, Aramco rumours dismissed
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