2024 US Presidential Election Thread
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The emphasis on "Hussein" is so telling. Gross.
Edit* Walz got all the smoke for both JD & Trump, lol.
Walz, Throwing Punches at Republicans, Makes His Big Entrance With Harris
As the vice president introduced her new running mate at an energetic rally in Philadelphia, he quickly demonstrated his ability to deliver searing attacks against Donald Trump and JD Vance.
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“Violent crime was up under Donald Trump,” he said, before pausing for effect.
“That’s not even counting the crimes he committed.”
“That’s not even counting the crimes he committed.”
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Whether they've got legitimate complaints or not, here's a list from a Republican Minnesota resident buddy of mine who used to be a Rochester cop back in the day.
"He tried telling people they weren't allowed to have visitors at home over the holidays during covid. And he set up a hotline to report neighbors who were having visitors"
"Allowed the rioters to destroy Minnesapolis during Floyd protests"
"Crippled small businesses in Minnesota with Covid mandates"
"Made Minnesota a safe place for children to get transgender surgeries"
As a resident of a smaller Ohio city that lacks the density of a place like Minneapolis, I generally thought the Covid restrictions in big cities seemed kind of ridiculous. I never had a problem and nobody I knew had any problems, no deaths, anything like that. Ohio wasn't nearly as restrictive. We did our part, but when we were done we were done.
Minneapolis did honestly become kind of a lawless place, and the aftermath has changed neighborhoods landscapes. Minneapolis was damn near a paradise in the late 2010s when I spent a month there exploring the city but apparently a lot of those neighborhoods went through serious demographic shifts after the protests and Covid. Many aren't nearly as peaceful as they were.
Not exactly sure how to avoid some of the mandates but again Ohio seemed to strike a reasonable balance and here in Dayton a lot of local businesses banded together to form delivery services and whatnot. Some popular places didn't make it, so I can imagine stricter rules causing even more failures. Again, times were unprecedented so some failure was going to happen regardless.
As for the surgery stuff, I'm pretty sure it's universally accepted that decisions like that shouldn't be made until a kid is 18? That is the age of consent after all.
Bottom line is Minnesota is a hard place to govern. It's got basically one very large and dense city while the rest of its massive territory is anything from small farming towns to barren wilderness. Democratic policies tend to favor the urban population and urban issues, but half of Minnesota's population lives outside the Minneapolis urban area, despite the state's overall lack of density. Ohio's biggest metro has just over half of Minneapolis's metro population but Ohio's density is four times that of Minnesota's which goes to show how many people in Ohio live outside of urban areas which is why the state leans Republican, but also why urban-centric Democratic policies literally leave half of Minnesota's population high and dry. While Walz did get 52.3% of the vote last time around, about 3% of the vote went to independents and small parties, so it's plausible that he wouldn't even have gotten a majority if those parties didn't exist.
It's entirely possible that Walz leaving Minnesota while rile up the state's Republican voters and Kamala will not be able to hold Minnesota. It's a lot tighter than people seem to think, the party population split is as close to 50/50 as you can get. It's not nearly as "moderate" of a state as Ohio, despite people calling Ohio a "red" state. It isn't, it's moderate, but our rural areas are very densely populated.
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These are Republican complaints against every Democrat. It wouldn't have mattered if Kelly, Shapiro, Pete, or even Barack was picked.
Tell your buddy Walz also took full responsibility for his late response, something the Republican Trumpers don't do, & even when he was doing something, the city was then having outsiders cause issue.
How Tim Walz actually handled the George Floyd protests in Minnesota
Harris’s running mate oversaw much of the law enforcement response to this historic period of civil unrest.
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I distinctly remember the beginning of this, long before Trump ever thought about becoming president. Shortly after I graduated high school I started working in a machine shop with my dad, I was just doing menial labor and painting, but I spent a lot of time listening to all the guys' favorite radio station, 700 WLW. Bill Cunningham, a Great American. He had a habit of referring to people as a "great American" long before that became a weird thing to say. Before Hannity stole it. Anyway, some old guy who I always thought was just bitching and moaning about the Reds and Bengals turned out to be a maniacal conservative as the years went on. Then Obama began campaigning and people realized he was the front runner. Ohhhh my god, conservative talk radio hell broke loose. It was 2007 the first time I heard Bill Cunningham refer to him as Barack Hussein Obama and obviously Iraq was fresh in everybody's mind at that time which was the whole point. Willy made sure to say the full name every single time. Putting a black guy in the White House is really what set these assholes off as far as I remember, and Trump was the eventual result of their disgust, and the result of him is the blatant hatred and idiocy we're all surrounded by now.
Bill Cunningham has been such a massive influence on this region in southwest Ohio for decades now, frankly I can't wait til the old bastard croaks and 700 withers away as they keep losing listeners. I'm pretty nostalgic for some of the old voices I heard broadcasting Reds and Begals games over the radio, but Willy on 700 WLW is not one of those voices I care to hear anymore.
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I tend to pick whatever name either rolls off the tongue better or is more distinctive. Obama's name had no shortage of either, but both Mike and Harris are ubiquitous. Pence and Kamala are both pretty distinctive names. I think it's just random that Kamala's first name is the distinctive one, and I've never had an issue with referring to teachers or other authority figures by their first names.
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I've also heard that, but it's worth noting that her official campaign social media accounts are "Kamala HQ" so it's not like she's asking people to only use her last name. It's also pretty natural to refer to Biden as Joe depending on context.
I was calling her Kamala but at some point I realized I was calling her Harris more often and now that's stuck.
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Imagine having the sheer audacity to accuse someone of unconstitutionally stealing the Presidency after unconstitutionally trying to steal the Presidency... interesting, however, that he seems to think that Harris is (or is going to be) the President though.
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A group of US combat veterans led by Thomas Behrends say Walz abandoned his unit by retiring to run for Congress instead of serving in Iraq where three of them died. It's already drawing comparisons to the anti-Kerry Swift Boat campaign in the comments.
Do you think they'll be able to make this stick? Near as I can tell it isn't a bone spurs level of draft dodging. Surely he'd served his time and retiring for documented medical reasons is legit?
www.newsweek.com
Do you think they'll be able to make this stick? Near as I can tell it isn't a bone spurs level of draft dodging. Surely he'd served his time and retiring for documented medical reasons is legit?
To Veterans Like Me, Tim Walz's Abandonment of His Unit Is Unforgivable
Here's the truth about Tim Walz: When his men needed him before what would have been his only combat deployment, he was nowhere to be found.
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Pretty hard to make that stick in a volunteer service. Plus he was in the damn reserves, most of whom are in there for the career benefits. For example in the AF, everybody knows the transport pilots are in there with the specific goal of getting hired by major airlines lol. They do their time, fulfill their contract or whatever, then leave immediately and don't think twice.A group of US combat veterans led by Thomas Behrends say Walz abandoned his unit by retiring to run for Congress instead of serving in Iraq where three of them died. It's already drawing comparisons to the anti-Kerry Swift Boat campaign in the comments.
Do you think they'll be able to make this stick? Near as I can tell it isn't a bone spurs level of draft dodging. Surely he'd served his time?
To Veterans Like Me, Tim Walz's Abandonment of His Unit Is Unforgivable
Here's the truth about Tim Walz: When his men needed him before what would have been his only combat deployment, he was nowhere to be found.
He he wanted to and was allowed to leave the military, I don't know why anybody wouldn't. Sounds like those guys are some sort of pro-combat extremists or something. Some people in the military, especially the army, joined because they want to blow **** up but that is pretty abnormal. Those folks also tend to be quite conservative.
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I doubt it. If anything, it makes Walz look good that he didn't serve in perhaps the most unpopular war in modern American history. But maybe Trump and the GOP will once again defend the invasion of Iraq just to own the libs.A group of US combat veterans led by Thomas Behrends say Walz abandoned his unit by retiring to run for Congress instead of serving in Iraq where three of them died. It's already drawing comparisons to the anti-Kerry Swift Boat campaign in the comments.
Do you think they'll be able to make this stick? Near as I can tell it isn't a bone spurs level of draft dodging. Surely he'd served his time?
To Veterans Like Me, Tim Walz's Abandonment of His Unit Is Unforgivable
Here's the truth about Tim Walz: When his men needed him before what would have been his only combat deployment, he was nowhere to be found.
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I think I'd need something more than a Facebook post from 2018 to even consider it. The post said that Walz supposedly said he'd join his unit, but there's no actual proof he committed to it. Also, it was a letter from 2018 about something that happened in 2005. I can't remember things that were said 13 years ago with clarity.A group of US combat veterans led by Thomas Behrends say Walz abandoned his unit by retiring to run for Congress instead of serving in Iraq where three of them died. It's already drawing comparisons to the anti-Kerry Swift Boat campaign in the comments.
Do you think they'll be able to make this stick? Near as I can tell it isn't a bone spurs level of draft dodging. Surely he'd served his time and retiring for documented medical reasons is legit?
To Veterans Like Me, Tim Walz's Abandonment of His Unit Is Unforgivable
Here's the truth about Tim Walz: When his men needed him before what would have been his only combat deployment, he was nowhere to be found.
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edit: Didn't mean to quote you here. Oops. Thanks for the fire fighting though, for real.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the 45th President of the United States speaking with eloquence and intelligence only equaled by John Adams.
Imagine having the sheer audacity to accuse someone of unconstitutionally stealing the Presidency after unconstitutionally trying to steal the Presidency... interesting, however, that he seems to think that Harris is (or is going to be) the President though.
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