2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[eran0004]

Responsible populism is saying "We're gonna end the war and cut waste and fraud so that we can spend the money at home where it matters." Not, oh, we're gonna do XYZ and here's more stimulus checks and hey let's just inflate the money supply forever kind of populism.

There is nothing responsible about forcing Ukraine to surrender to the aggressor. That would be disastrous for Ukraine and it would make the world a lot more dangerous, since you're essentially rewarding Russia for starting wars.

Not only is it morally wrong, but an unstable global economy would hurt the US economy as well so even from an entirely egoistic American perspective it's moronic to support Russian aggression.

 

[Omnis]

Clear as mud.

 

[UKMikey]

How much waste and fraud has DOGE eliminated so far?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doge-website-offers-error-filled-window-into-musks-government-overhaul-2025-03-04/

 

[McLaren]

They definitely had the feel of elitism and disconnection from grassroots sentiment, which is ironic considering their insane emphasis on identity politics.

Harris had possibly the largest amount of donations from the grassroots donors in US history, $50 million alone in her first week.

neglecting the economic concerns of the broader working class

Which in turn, was being lied to by Republicans by "gas & egg" prices as an example of a bad economy even though the US economy was the strongest coming out of Covid & continuing upwards.

not to mention the border situation

Another lie deep throated by conservatives to paint immigrants as criminals even though the vast majority of them committed way less "rape & murders" than US citizens. I still find it funny how Republicans ran on Biden "importing illegals" yet remain silent to this day that my dumb ass Governor & your dumb ass Governor were chartering flights for them deeper into America to own the libs rather than deport them themselves.

 

[Omnis]

Right, but if that is the popular sentiment, it shows a big time failure in communication and/or presentation from the dems. They got reamed by the trumpets in that regard

 

[TexRex]

Putting AOC on the ballot is doubling down on what made people turn on the democrats in the first place. Regular people don't want that. People don't want America looking like the Paris Olympics opening ceremony.

I mean I don't like AOC but...and this can't be overstated...she did not trans the Paris Olympics. My god. Modern American conservatism is mental illness.

 

[GranTurNismo]

Putting AOC on the ballot is doubling down on what made people turn on the democrats in the first place. Regular people don't want that. People don't want America looking like the Paris Olympics opening ceremony. All they gotta do is be a normal person with sane, non-controversial views, and be serious about and/or capable of balancing the budget. The democrats would have beaten Trump handily if they divorced themselves from Biden's awful administration and ran people on a "responsible populism" platform. Everyone switched over because that party has just gotten so insane that they don't even identify with them anymore.

I didn't know house minority leader Hakeem Jeffries joined the forum.

 

[Keef]

Gonna hide this behind a spoiler for some language but I stumbled on a video covering the idea of oligarchic economic engineering. Causing a recession on purpose in order to get rich, which all of us educatededs know is a classic tactic used by dictators of the past to consolidate power. It's been painfully obvious what the guy's goal has been since 2016 but its ridiculous how blatant the efforts are at the moment.

Spoiler

I've had basically zero fruitful discussions with my Republican friends as of late. It's just impossible. Their argument methods are exactly like Trump's policy tactics - flood the space with so many small bits of nonsense that it becomes overwhelming to address each one individually, much less paint a picture of all of them and address as a whole. This of course is another classic dictator tactic, generating so much chaos it can't be countered effectively.

A buddy was telling me about his libertarian friend who voted for Trump @Danoff @Omnis it took me about 5 minutes in the McDonalds drive through to explain why his friend is an idiot.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Anyone else starting to sense a level of spook building in Trump? I think he is genuinely starting to worry about his approval rating - granted it's not yet stopping him from his rampage, but one can hope.

 

[Omnis]

Anyone else starting to sense a level of spook building in Trump? I think he is genuinely starting to worry about his approval rating - granted it's not yet stopping him from his rampage, but one can hope.

Maybe he’s actually listening to the entire intelligence/stratcom community for a change lol. Or Erik Prince called him up and had a word.

Gonna hide this behind a spoiler for some language but I stumbled on a video covering the idea of oligarchic economic engineering. Causing a recession on purpose in order to get rich, which all of us educatededs know is a classic tactic used by dictators of the past to consolidate power. It's been painfully obvious what the guy's goal has been since 2016 but its ridiculous how blatant the efforts are at the moment.

Spoiler

I've had basically zero fruitful discussions with my Republican friends as of late. It's just impossible. Their argument methods are exactly like Trump's policy tactics - flood the space with so many small bits of nonsense that it becomes overwhelming to address each one individually, much less paint a picture of all of them and address as a whole. This of course is another classic dictator tactic, generating so much chaos it can't be countered effectively.

A buddy was telling me about his libertarian friend who voted for Trump @Danoff @Omnis it took me about 5 minutes in the McDonalds drive through to explain why his friend is an idiot.

Is his friend Walter Block? lol. Intellectuals already had that argument the first go around.

 

[Exorcet]

Anyone else starting to sense a level of spook building in Trump? I think he is genuinely starting to worry about his approval rating - granted it's not yet stopping him from his rampage, but one can hope.

There has always been the question of how much of Trump's motivation is malice and how much is ignorance. We might be getting a hint that the second one is a big factor. If Trump believed that he was a respected and talented leader despite his actions showing anything but, I wouldn't be surprised.

It doesn't change much though, he's terrible as a government figure, probable terrible at most things, and needs to be kicked out ASAP.

 

[Sprite]

How have I only just seen this now.

 

[Keef]

There has always been the question of how much of Trump's motivation is malice and how much is ignorance. We might be getting a hint that the second one is a big factor. If Trump believed that he was a respected and talented leader despite his actions showing anything but, I wouldn't be surprised.

It doesn't change much though, he's terrible as a government figure, probable terrible at most things, and needs to be kicked out ASAP.

I'm thinking it's malice.

There's a problem in the military right now as told by my friends who work at WPAFB and it's worse than you think.

They're out of printer paper.

In order to buy the supplies needed to run daily operations, civilian department managers/team leaders have government credit cards they use to expense basically everything they need including daily supplies. Military members of these teams do not have the ability to do this. Those credit cards have been canceled, and now some government offices have been told to ration supplies including printer paper.

What better way to bring government to a grinding halt without breaking laws and without causing a huge media stir than to cancel a bunch of team-level credit cards which seems to the workers like a local issue effecting a few dozen people at a time? Something that simple could effectively stall the government within just a couple months, and stalling government is basically his entire goal.

 

[GBO Possum]

This one voted to devastate the lives of others, not "OUR lives" and she feels betrayed.

Listen to her emphasis on the word "our"...

 

[05XR8]

Just more wow.

 

[FuriousDemon]

LOL

 

[05XR8]

Yep. I don’t believe he meant “they”(Democrats) rigged it for Biden to win last time. Someone will try to clarify what he meant.

 

[FPV MIC]

Yep. I don’t believe he meant “they”(Democrats) rigged it for Biden to win last time. Someone will try to clarify what he meant.