450PP Midfield Raceway Quick Match

[kilesa4568]

In case you hadn't seen it, another tuning allowed 3 lap quick match with normal cars, sport hard tyres and Midfield Raceway appeared last night.

Another dominant gixxer event (sigh) but at least there'll be no short cutting. Plenty of close to the track barriers to get bounced off though. Speaking from experience there...

400+k for a full room win.

Had wins with the Shelby Series One, 111R and RX500 but the GT86 and variants should be reasonably competitive. Haven't tried the RX7s yet. Obviously, the gixxer trounces all. Had a quick go with mine and doing 3:59s with small momentum mistakes.

Open for suggestions for more competitive 450PP cars...

 

[Centralia]

Want to try this one, but keep getting disconnected from the server when waiting for other racers. 10 times in a row over past 2 weeks or so. If there's a tech forum for this, I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Got a rock solid, pretty fast connection.

 

[Ale67]

my best time with FT-86 Concept '09

 

[ALB123]

Want to try this one, but keep getting disconnected from the server when waiting for other racers. 10 times in a row over past 2 weeks or so. If there's a tech forum for this, I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Got a rock solid, pretty fast connection.

Check your PS3 Network Settings. Do you have NAT Type 2 listed? I believe that is usually what is needed to maintain these types of connections. Do you have success joining regular public lobbies?

 

[C45H]

Personally I don't like american cars, but the '03 SRT-4 -with a good gearbox tune- can easily win

 

[kilesa4568]

It was especially bad yesterday (12PM to 6PM GMT) with connections. Probably the worst I've experienced so far. There was a lot of grimacing when I thought about changing cars. As soon as I swapped to the Dino, that was it. No more races.

I'm on 100/6 cable connection myself. NAT 2 and nothing else in the house using it so it can only be down to a poorly managed/limited resource server. With everyone trying to get in (worldwide) all of the time, on all 4 quick matches, it must be like a DDoS attack causing the instability.

If only they thought about offering dedicated servers. I'd happily pay for a stable connection and I'm sure a lot of the organised race hosts would too. Imagine a moderated quick match room...

I know, I know. Stop the wishful thinking where PD are concerned.

 

[Daduce1947]

Hi all,

Can't say if it was just a fluke,, but have "stumbled" (??) on success getting in on some of those occasions when I can't seem to get in the QM's - clear the cache,, jump in the F-86 QM - sit until the race starts then either go ahead and run it (it's only 2 laps so a quickie) or leave, then jump back out and go to the Midfield and give it a try. NBring will always be a crapshoot it seems,,, so have given up trying. Whether or not going through that exercise aligns the stars or or it's just luck,, but most times I get in when I could not before..

 

[kilesa4568]

I actually tried that. Chose an event that looked less busy, connected after a couple of attempts, did the race and then tried to jump onto the 450pp. Nada. Gave up after an hour of trying.

I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the initial message you get ("connecting to server") when you enter the quick match section. Grabbing at straws really but maybe when you get a disconnect, you have to wait for another slot on the server to get back in. The only time you see that message though is the first time you enter quick match so you only see it from a fresh run of the game. I'll try restarting the game later and see if I have more success after seeing the connecting message.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[Daduce1947]

I actually tried that. Chose an event that looked less busy, connected after a couple of attempts, did the race and then tried to jump onto the 450pp. Nada. Gave up after an hour of trying.

I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the initial message you get ("connecting to server") when you enter the quick match section. Grabbing at straws really but maybe when you get a disconnect, you have to wait for another slot on the server to get back in. The only time you see that message though is the first time you enter quick match so you only see it from a fresh run of the game. I'll try restarting the game later and see if I have more success after seeing the connecting message.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

GL partner, persistence and perseverance will prevail! 👍

 

[kilesa4568]

Tried all sorts of methods to get connected, like my idea of quitting and restarting the game to get a fresh connection or doing other races and then trying to get in. Nothing worked reliably.

I think it's just a limited resource server that you have to, a, get lucky and get a slot, and b, have similar connections to the other people in the room. The disconnects after you're in a room is probably it balancing those connections.

All guesswork really so it's as you said. Persistence and perseverance will eventually prevail. As long as your patience holds out anyway.

 

[Speedracer8218]

It's really frustrating that QM is the one thing that gets lots of people wanting to play GT6 again yet there are all these connectivity issues...

That being said I like this track/pp combo, like OP said there is no room to cheat, except when ppl bring out the Suzuki.

Patience is a virtue when it comes to joining a room as it takes me anywhere from 3-10 try's before getting lucky, but when I do it's been pretty fun being able to race a tuned street car online again

Don't forget to clear your cache before racing like @Daduce1947 said, it always helps 👍

 

[kilesa4568]

The GSXR-4's are a pain in the arse in this match. If you go with something that's a second or so slower like the RX500, 111R or even RX8 Type S, you find that the gixxers nibble you round every corner trying to get past. Often to the point of putting you off track due to being right on the limit of traction, or worse case, you somehow get a penalty from the car behind. It's just too dominant.

If they'd gone with 550-570pp, the field would have been wide open but they didn't. They made another GSXR-4 event.

I hate to say it but I'll be in one now. Time trialling against other GSXR-4s the same as I ended up doing at Trial Mountain. 🤬

 

[MisterWaffles]

I did this race one time with an M Coupe, came in 8th. It's decently fast down the straights but it weighs so much. I remember coming around the corner, and one of those GSXR's rammed me and I got a penalty for it. PD should really fix the hit detection for penalty's.

The Integra (DC5) works pretty well for this race, and it's light enough to be fast around the bends

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

The GSXR-4's are a pain in the arse in this match. If you go with something that's a second or so slower like the RX500, 111R or even RX8 Type S, you find that the gixxers nibble you round every corner trying to get past. Often to the point of putting you off track due to being right on the limit of traction, or worse case, you somehow get a penalty from the car behind. It's just too dominant.

If they'd gone with 550-570pp, the field would have been wide open but they didn't. They made another GSXR-4 event.

I hate to say it but I'll be in one now. Time trialling against other GSXR-4s the same as I ended up doing at Trial Mountain. 🤬

At that PP level, you'd be saying the exact same thing about the Honda NSX-R concept road car. there is always a few cars that are faster than others.
The gixxer is the fastest road car up to 550PP, above that, the NSX-R is the fastest road car.
When it comes to race cars, the TS030 is the fastest up to 600PP, above that, the chaparral 2J is the fastest.

On another note, I took my Lancia Stratos out for a spin. It is considered one of the worst handling cars, but I still managed to win easy with a finishing time of 3:59, further proving that the car is not the deciding factor.

 

[Speedracer8218]

On another note, I took my Lancia Stratos out for a spin. It is considered one of the worst handling cars, but I still managed to win easy with a finishing time of 3:59, further proving that the car is not the deciding factor.

If you're able to do 3:59 in a stratos then obviously you're way faster then most racers because 3:59 is what most ppl are doing in the Suzuki. So in your case it doesn't matter what car other ppl bring out because you're facing competition that's below your level.

To put things into perspective, imagine you're in a room where all racers are equally talented and you were in the stratus and everyone else in the Suzuki, I'm sure the car would make a difference then.

If the car is not a deciding factor then why are cars like the Suzuki, nsx concept, and 2J chosen over others at certain pp?

 

[kilesa4568]

Too true about taking one top car out of the equation, another will replace it, and purists aside, who don't mind the argy bargy in the pack to try and get to the front, we all want to see what we can do with the fastest car available.

The flip side is that if you take the drivers out of it who can get round the track really quickly (you don't meet that many in quick match) in cars like the Stratos, that broader range of cars come into play. You've got your fastest car, we've got a garage full in that range.

As long as you top 100 drivers stay out of quick match, there's hope for us mere minions.

I can't help feeling a bit of jealousy that you're under 4 minutes with the Stratos. Damn. You've either got it or you haven't though.

I bet I could beat you at Virtual Pool 4 though.

Edit. I think I got properly treed there. Damn toilet break.

 

[Daduce1947]

The Integra (DC5) works pretty well for this race, and it's light enough to be fast around the bends

Abdolutely agree some of the Integra's can indeed hang with the GSXer's,, I'm using the DC3 and it's quick enough to put just enough pressure on the GSX's to sometimes force a mistake and get the WIN.

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

If you're able to do 3:59 in a stratos then obviously you're way faster then most racers because 3:59 is what most ppl are doing in the Suzuki. So in your case it doesn't matter what car other ppl bring out because you're facing competition that's below your level.

To put things into perspective, imagine you're in a room where all racers are equally talented and you were in the stratus and everyone else in the Suzuki, I'm sure the car would make a difference then.

If the car is not a deciding factor then why are cars like the Suzuki, nsx concept, and 2J chosen over others at certain pp?

Yeah, ofcourse if 2 people are of the same skill level, and one is in the gixxer, ofcourse he'll win.
I was just saying the gixxers are not unbeatable, and if you find them so difficult to beat, just use it yourself^^

I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

 

[Speedracer8218]

Yeah, ofcourse if 2 people are of the same skill level, and one is in the gixxer, ofcourse he'll win.
I was just saying the gixxers are not unbeatable, and if you find them so difficult to beat, just use it yourself^^

I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

No offense taken bud, I was just pointing out that most people are not as fast as you, so in order for the average racer to run below 4:00 in the QM they have to use the suzuki... And maybe a little jealous that you're that fast (Must be nice to be able to pick any car out of ur garage and spank those gixers)

As far as using the Suzuki it's not my thing... I like to use cars that I enjoy in real life, makes it more fun for me.

Im just average fast so I don't expect to win a lot of races, as long as I can have some good battles and sneak a win here and there with a car I like I'm happy as a clam

 

[jlbmel]

I gave this event a try yesterday. I was unable to connect all morning, but finally was able to enter a race last night.
The field was full of a strange mix of cars and a lot of drivers lacking skill. Starting at the rear of a full field was a recipe for a penalty filled race. Slow cars and drivers spinning out of control was the norm. I finally started a race from 6th grid position and was in front at the first turn. I was just cruising to my first win when some idiot thought it would be funny to park their car across the track in a blind corner and wipe me out. He continued to do this for a couple of races, but I kept watching the map to see where he was so I could avoid him.
There were only a couple of people that were running cars with any type of tuning, so there was not much competition in my dozen or so races. I used a GSX and my best times were:
First lap: 1:23.717
Best lap: 1:16.810
Best race: 3:58.077
I really need to start using MT with these low PP cars because the car bogs down slightly in a couple of corners using AT.
I also hope PD increases the low payout like they finally did with the VW event.

 

[wedjim]

I must be missing something if "most are running 3:59's." I haven't seen one yet. I have had some good battles and run some 4:01's so I'm sure it can be done. But I'd love to see a video of it done in a stratos?

Just sayin.

My best lap with the GSXR is a 1:17.1xx and I haven't gotten under 4 yet......but I will....eventually.

I prefer to use my RX7 or Toyota 86, but if I don't get a clean start, game over. Best I can do with those cars is a high 1:18.

 

[Azophi]

This has been my favorite QM so far, by quite a margin. Even got my first piece of racist, sexist hatemail after my little blue Lotus Elise beat a GSX-R trying to force me off the road. Almost every GSX-R I've come across is really violent, actually, while it's fairly uncommon to see another model being run by a jerk.

Managed fairly consistent 1:18:7xx laps with my Elise (no ABS, 448pp), but I'm sure doing a bit of fiddling with the suspension could bring it down into the low 18s. It's the entrance to the last hairpin I lose most human error time on; brakes are so prone to locking up unless I'm pumping them early. Probably throwing out half a second at this one corner.

Really looking forward to trying out a few setups over the next couple of weeks, though I doubt I'll be making the 1:16s I've seen a couple of GSX-Rs hit. Only driven eighty miles in this Elise, not close to being good enough for that.

 

[SCClockDr]

I am liking my RX500! My personal best so far is 4:05.445 with 15 participants starting from 2nd. The really good GSX drivers are faster but that car needs pretty consistent driver to maintain cornering speed as my RX500 will out pull them on the long runs.

I so far have not found the correct setup and/or driving method to get better lap times that I am getting with the RX500.

The RX500 seems a little more "battle worthy" as well.

 

[N0t_L3fty]

Be really nice if the cheap sod busters would actually get some functional servers.

 

[kilesa4568]

@praiano63 's tunes for the 111R, RX500 and Dino are addictive. The cars just float round the corners so easily that you could drink tea on the hairpins without spillage. Sort the final gear and away you go.

Luckily I got into quite a few quick matches tonight and glad I did. Some seriously good wheel to wheel racing, give or take one or two combatants, and loved every minute of it. A few gixxers got raspberry's at the finish too.

Huge mix of cars turning up too. It's turned into a run what you brung.

 

[ALB123]

I am liking my RX500! My personal best so far is 4:05.445 with 15 participants starting from 2nd. The really good GSX drivers are faster but that car needs pretty consistent driver to maintain cornering speed as my RX500 will out pull them on the long runs.

I so far have not found the correct setup and/or driving method to get better lap times that I am getting with the RX500.

The RX500 seems a little more "battle worthy" as well.

I just bought the Mazda RX-500 and wow...I have been missing out. This car drives great. I haven't tuned it yet, but even in the stock configuration it drives so smoothly. I can't wait to start using it in races... 👍

 

[DisabledRacer]

This could be an excellent and fun event, if a few things ever get corrected.

A picture is worth a thousand words.....

I DID get paid for 1st place. 2nd place is the new 1st place!

Nice "tight" starting grid!

I protect and hold the inside line.... But I get the penalty?

 

[wedjim]

I got creamed a few times last night and sent off the track into the guard rail. No penalty for anyone.

 

[kilesa4568]

As long as there aren't too many gixxers in the race, I love it when it when the line up goes buggy and puts me in last place every race. Very rewarding if you can get a win from there.

No idea why but I seem to prefer chasing rather than leading. Chasing stops me from using a little gamesmanship when I see a couple of cars battling behind too. I drift under the bridge and a bit round the long left hander straight after it to lay a smoke screen down. Bought myself a better gap a few times doing that.

 

[Venari]

Two fun cars for decent drivers to have a bash at poorly piloted GSXRs...

The later MR2/MR-S 6MT cars are very capable, fairly softly sprung, important to get the balance of ARBs correct for the medium/high speed corners. Earlier cars are a bit slidy.

Also, a big surprise - the '79 Nissan Bluebird 1800SSS (910). It has big power (you have to buy lots of stuff) but fully lightened and ballasted up to about a tonne, it will outdrag almost anything. Slammed, very softly sprung, heavily damped, max the antirollbars and give it a fair bit of LSD Decel, and it's not bad in corners either. Change up if it begins to kick out on you. Changing down again optional. I just beat a few GSX-Rs with this. It's fun nailing the braking point into the first corner and then just draughting them through the fast section - messes with their heads and often they screw up going under the tunnel.

** Full tune now available, link on next page in this thread.