450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

[zero_speed]

Count me in!! just let me find a car lol.

 

[t_ray_z28]

Count me in too! I didn't read every comment on the thread, so I didn't see it mentioned, but is there a tire standard, or is it all just on the PP of the car?

 

[chuyler1]

Tire restriction is in the first post. We run racing soft tires so install those on a few cars.

Last night we had some interesting entries. There were essentally two packs of cars. The front runners were in sports cars, Lotus's, RX-7s, RX-8s, Jimmy in his Miura. Then toward the back people were running minivans and trucks!

From what I saw, the racing was pretty clean. I got punted once at Tsukuba but fought back for a 3rd place finish. The room is filling up fast so its best to arrive at 9:30 when it first opens. If there are enough regulars I may switch the room to my private lobby...but for now, remember to click the yellow user icon to the right of my lobby. That will take you to the exact room I am in. If it says "450pp street cars" then its the right room.

 

[chuyler1]

Video from Grand Valley last night. Man, those Lotus's are quick through the back section. Once Jack got around me there was no way I was going to follow his line. My RX-8 would understeer if I didn't lift off the throttle on turn 2 (notice the final lap on the video I tried it and ended up giving up 2nd place because of it)

 

[RDB]

Count me in. Do you consider the McLaren F1 Stealth a racecar?

 

[polizei]

Count me in. Do you consider the McLaren F1 Stealth a racecar?

Does it have numbers on it? If you can get it down to 450pp i doubt it will be very competitive because of the low HP. I find its best to use something with a bit of turning to get up to 450pp rather than detune things down to 450pp

 

[chuyler1]

Basically cars that are stock between about 420 to 480 are best. If you go much higher than 480, your car won't keep up on short tracks.

Short tracks: Using short gear ratios keeps cars in their top 1000 rpm. Cars that are peaky in the upper rpm range work best (high rpm turbos on econoboxes)

Long tracks: With longer gears, cars that make decent mid range torque work best. The peaky econoboxes will usually lose out on the straights.

Exceptions: The NSX and Elise dominate on just about any track. If you are only joining the room to win, you might as well just drive an NSX. However, it'll be more rewarding if you beat half the pack in some off-the-wall choice.

 

[Finchypoo]

This sounds super fun, I sent you a friend request so it'll be easier to find the room. I have an Autobacs Garaiya that I just can't wait to bring to the field.

 

[chuyler1]

That's a fun car, corners on rails but a little slow on the straights. I pull mine out when we do nurburgring, but I usually get passed on the long straight.

 

[polizei]

i built a bunch of cars to 450pp this afternoon, i will test them out tonight i hope!

 

[Finchypoo]

LOL, I can see myself sign offline in your Grand Valley video :-P, had I known the fun I was missing while I was using the PS3 for one of it's other purposes.

 

[t_ray_z28]

Wish I could join you guys, but for some reason my PSN refuses to sign in! Anybody else having this issue?

 

[chuyler1]

You may have to agree to some new terms and conditions...when you launch the game it refuses to sign in, but if you try to sign-in from the PS3 menu you'll get a dialog where you have to click "i agree".

I saw a bunch of new comers last night. Some decent races but we spread out quite a bit on the tracks. I'm wondering if using a reverse starting grid would be fun. That would put the fast cars in the back and force them to work their way to the front. I'm just worried it will produce a bunch of starting grid carnage.

 

[t_ray_z28]

You may have to agree to some new terms and conditions...when you launch the game it refuses to sign in, but if you try to sign-in from the PS3 menu you'll get a dialog where you have to click "i agree".

I saw a bunch of new comers last night. Some decent races but we spread out quite a bit on the tracks. I'm wondering if using a reverse starting grid would be fun. That would put the fast cars in the back and force them to work their way to the front. I'm just worried it will produce a bunch of starting grid carnage.

It wont sign in at all. Even when I first turn on the system it gives me an error message for the PSN. It's been doing that for a couple of days now.

 

[madmyk]

I will try to meet up with you guys soon. I am on the West Coast so I'm wondering if you go past midnight Eastern time? Otherwise I will barely catch the last hour.

 

[chuyler1]

The room stays open (as far as I know) after I leave around 11:45-12:00 EST since others can stay later than me.

 

[madmyk]

Cool. thanks. I'll try to send a FR tonight. I haven't had much luck finding friends online though. I think I am missing something. I used to play Warhawk and it was very easy to look up a friend and go to the room they were in.

 

[chuyler1]

Once you have friended someone, go to the community section in-game. Scroll down the list and there will be a yellow dot next to users logged in. Click on one. There will be a yellow user icon to the right of their lobby coffee mug. Navigate to the yellow icon and you can join whatever lobby they are in. If there is no icon, they are just racing a-spec or something.

 

[coolracer101]

I was there last night , but nobody was in there

 

[madmyk]

Thanks again. I thought that just took you to their lobby if they were in it. I have some interesting cars at that level but have not spent much time with them online. Hopefully they will be competitive...looking forward to trying my luck with you guys.

 

[chuyler1]

I was there last night , but nobody was in there

Dude, I explained this already. Don't click on my lobby coffee mug, click on the yellow user icon that appears next to it. When you do, it should show you who is in the lobby. If my name is not listed, it's the wrong place. If there is no yellow icon, it means i'm not in any lobby and you'll have to wait.

 

[coolracer101]

ok thanks Ill do it next time

 

[chuyler1]

Great battle at Tokyo R246 last night between me and D3MONIC. I could keep up via the draft but just didn't have enough gear to pass on the straight. Would've loved to race again with the right gearing. However, D3MONIC was doing a better job with turn 1 and I suspect had I got around the draft would've given him the upper hand. I love exciting battles though, even if I don't win.

 

[Finchypoo]

Nice to see what the rest of the race looked like. I didn't see much of it after my horrible Lancia failure.

Tuned the crap out of that thing last night after the races, it's much more stable now.

 

[chuyler1]

I pretty much install LSD, Custom Tranny, and custom suspension on any car I bring to these races. It's the only way to stay out front. However, once you get up front you may realize certain cars just aren't quick.

My RX-8 suffers from poor low end torque and its pretty obvious in the video above. Only when my car was beyond redline could I pull on the FT Concept...and that was with the draft too! It has stage 3 engine mods and I'm not sure that is helping me. I may purchase another and just use bolt-ons to see if i can coax some more speed out of her.

 

[Finchypoo]

yea the Stratos had the works installed, but it was essentially untuned and it showed.

Then again, I was pretty much driving it for the first time in that race so I didn't expect much.

Got it all tuned up now and although I don't think I'm going to be winning anything with it, I'm going to have an awful lot of fun trying. The LSD made the biggest difference in getting it to not spin on accel and keep the front end pointing the correct direction on braking, neither of which it wanted to do last night. I may also drop the power a bit and take off more weight.

The grid start was promising though, I blew past the first 3 guys ahead of me in no time with the massive torque that thing has...until I went into the wall. 💡

 

[chuyler1]

Yeah the LSD makes a huge difference and there are some threads on this site that talk about how it is the first thing you should use to tune oversteer/understeer. I haven't tried the Lancia yet, the only one I have is the rally version. I'll have to give it a try.

 

[Finchypoo]

You win it for the B-spec Galladro race so it's easy to aquire. Out of the box with it's comfort tires it's nearly un-drivable without the utmost care taken with throttle control. Even tuned it's still squirrely but a lot of fun.

Not sure how competitive it is though. I'm still getting used to it and adjusting the tune but so far my Trail mountain lap is only about 1:33, and I know some people in this thread mentioned getting 1:30 with their 450pp car.

 

[chuyler1]

Yeah, a decent car will run 1:32-1:33. The best cars (NSX, Elise, RX-8. Garayia) will run 1:29-1:30. Tuning has a little to do with it, but some cars are just slugs on the uphill and even if you run a perfect line you'll fall behind on sector 2.

We've been talking about tire width a bunch lately. I think racing soft tires are not created equal across all cars. Even with the best tune, my '86 MR2 slides around the track while the Elise which weighs the same sticks to the road like glue. I've spent hours trying to make the MR2 fast but nothing I do will get the tires to hook up in the turns they way they do on the elise.

 

[Finchypoo]

hmm, I have a tuned 500pp Garaiya that does 1:30, I must be missing out on something with my alternate 450 version. I'll have to tweak it some more.