4wd drifting club

nk4e · Mar 4, 2004

whats ur hp on that car ??

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 4, 2004

can't remember...lemme check ...

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 4, 2004

Nismo 400R i use has 802Hp

nk4e · Mar 4, 2004

thats alot i had a bhp on mine

Delphic Reason · Mar 4, 2004

Not bad Catch. I think you need to work on smoother countersteer control (front wheels were twitching like crazy), and it seems that your car is a little off balance. Did you use mixed tires?

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 4, 2004

yeah 802bhp.. works well...

for me atleast ...

nk4e · Mar 4, 2004

Originally posted by Catch-my-Drift?
Nismo 400R i use has 802Hp

ill try that some time

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 4, 2004

Yip.. mixed tyres.. the "twitching" is necessary to control the drift.. I still dont get the unbalanced part... :confused:

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 5, 2004

Just messing with you about the twitching part SD... but please explain the unbalanced thing...

Delphic Reason · Mar 5, 2004

Originally posted by Catch-my-Drift?
Just messing with you about the twitching part SD... but please explain the unbalanced thing...

It's pretty easy to tell when people use mixed tires, because of the way the car has to fight itself to stay in a drift. Because the front tires are softer than the rear, it makes control unnatural, and the car off ballance. Usually entrances, and exits are more thrown then smooth, when mixing tires..........

You have huge potential, but I think it's being held back some by mixing tires, and not understanding the base level handling characterristics.....

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 5, 2004

Thanx for that.. I will definately apply what you said with other drive trains.. but my style for 4wd is set and the way it is now, with all the fighting with the front tyres

, is my technique and its already second nature... I'm not planning to change my style of 4WD drifting.. but thanx for the comments..

Delphic Reason · Mar 5, 2004

Originally posted by Catch-my-Drift?
Thanx for that.. I will definately apply what you said with other drive trains.. but my style for 4wd is set and the way it is now, with all the fighting with the front tyres , is my technique and its already second nature... I'm not planning to change my style of 4WD drifting.. but thanx for the comments..

No offense Catch, but that's kind of a stubborn thing to do. It's not like you have to relearn drifting. You just have to get used to not mixing tires, which will not take that long. It is a crutch to mix tires, and will limit your advancement...... I'm just trying to help you, that's all....

Catch-my-Drift? · Mar 5, 2004

Duly noted :cool:

grimreaper 86 · Mar 5, 2004

tweeking the suspension settings, ie toe camber and spring rates at front and rear can give the desired differences in grip without needing to mix tyres

just a comment and not a judgement.

its also more natural, neutral and controlable

as an experiment i altered nothing but the front spring rate of a s14 and was quite surprised with the difference in control with each incriment adjusted, i know that was fr but its still aplicable.

its still a cool clip tho

Delphic Reason · Mar 5, 2004

Originally posted by grimreaper 86
tweeking the suspension settings, ie toe camber and spring rates at front and rear can give the desired differences in grip without needing to mix tyres just a comment and not a judgement.
its also more natural, neutral and controlable

as an experiment i altered nothing but the front spring rate of a s14 and was quite surprised with the difference in control with each incriment adjusted, i know that was fr but its still aplicable.

its still a cool clip tho

Exactly..... Give this man a gold star.

This is what I have been saying all along.... The most common reason people mix tires (in GT3), is because they don't understand the tuning aspect....... It is imparitive that you learn the tuning aspect, or you will hit the preverbial brick wall, and not be able to advance your skills. The only way to do this, is to do what grimreaper said, and fine tune the suspension, LSD, etc...., until it's comfortable................... If you need any help with that, I can help you out...... Just send me a PM, or an E-mail............

grimreaper 86 · Mar 8, 2004

thanks silviadrifter that is a grate compliment indeed.
using the old never give up determination and words of wisdom i read in these very pages from someone with grate knowlege of the sport (silviadrifter ),
i came to the conclusion that no matter how wild the setup looks on paper, having the same compound on all corners is far more controlable than one end of the car having completely different traction characteristics and not being able to regain grip or have enough tractive force to PUSH the car around the corner.

i know some say "but its like putting narrower tyres on the front/back". not realy, that is like putting less grippy tyres on one end, to Realy have a narrower tyre footprint in contact with the road surface surely its better to change camber and the like.

and on that note i think i have made a brakethrough on the ruf ctr2 unfortunately i cant get to my save to get the settings but i can say its got a LOT of camber out back and it has solved the problem of not being able to brake traction at rear and it dosent go in to a wild understeer in mid corner anymore.

ill put them up as soon as possible.
and thanks again

Fratley · Mar 8, 2004

I find 4WD drifting difficult, yet rewarding. I don't set my cars for drifting, but I achieve 4 wheel drift naturally. I will soon try tweaking my WRX STi for drifting...

nk4e · Mar 8, 2004

kool, the wrx was my first drift car and then came the 86

BinaryRS · Mar 9, 2004

can i join? i can drift Impreza, Evo 4, and Impreza LM just to name a few

nk4e · Mar 9, 2004

just put that ur a member of the 4wd drifting club

SupraFly · Mar 9, 2004

i thought you were monkey-d nk4e

-Vash

bengee · Mar 9, 2004

I thought so too but it seems he is on night majik now... and 4wd drifters club...

Delphic Reason · Mar 9, 2004

He left Monkey D, and went to Night Majik..........

nk4e · Mar 9, 2004

whats up with the dots SD

Delphic Reason · Mar 10, 2004

Originally posted by nightkids4ever
whats up with the dots SD

I'm not sure, I just started doing that. I guess it kind of signifies, that I'll be back.... That the conversation, isn't over yet.......

and it just kinda looks cool, I guess..... lol.

wink

nk4e · Mar 10, 2004

( i wonder if they get tired of laughing)

SupraFly · Mar 13, 2004

Blazafan, i told you i would publicily announce your involuntary resignation of being in the 4wd drifting club. Not only did u insult me but you also dont even know what an s14 is. Saying that i "try to drift" is an insult to me, and i will nto take it. Also, talking about how awesome Auto Modelista and how "awesome" it is i dont like. Also, another reason your gone, is that you say you cant race driftin GT3 was idiotic in ways i dont even want to explain. I think most people would agree that this is a good decision, and just like resigning from Project-D, my decision is final.

As i said to you before, good day to you sir.

-Vash

Delphic Reason · Mar 13, 2004

Ignorance will not be tollerated......

SupraFly · Mar 13, 2004

U have most of the conversation, why dont u post it?

-Vash

Delphic Reason · Mar 13, 2004

Here's part of it:

EvoSevenDrifter: Blazafan30: no they dont they just are hard
Blazafan30: i think thas true
EvoSevenDrifter: im sorry but i hate am
Blazafan30: but thas how it is in real life
EvoSevenDrifter: no its not
EvoSevenDrifter: i drift in real life
EvoSevenDrifter: Blazafan30: sure it is
EvoSevenDrifter: i know what its like
Blazafan30: no ya dont
Blazafan30: ya dont drift
EvoSevenDrifter: omg
Blazafan30: at least not real drifting
EvoSevenDrifter: EvoSevenDrifter: dont even
EvoSevenDrifter: do u ****ing know who i am
Blazafan30: no
Blazafan30: who are ya?
Blazafan30: a guy that tries to drift?
Blazafan30: :-D

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