5 reasons GT6 is a PS4 game

[TheDabbinDave]

Best would be if they released apple/android app too. Not for racing but for managing cars in garage. Upgrading, buying and so on. Would be great.

They don't have a clue about phone, tablet, or iPod apps. We are still waiting for a Remote Racing app for GT5. SONY is pretty dense at times. Taking B-Spec a step further, why can't we race online with B-Spec??? Why aren't B-Spec Seasonal Events against our friend's drivers??? Too complicated for them to implement is suppose.

 

[Youngun]

They don't have a clue about phone, tablet, or iPod apps. We are still waiting for a Remote Racing app for GT5. SONY is pretty dense at times. Taking B-Spec a step further, why can't we race online with B-Spec??? Why aren't B-Spec Seasonal Events against our friend's drivers??? Too complicated for them to implement is suppose.

The playstation app doesn't really do much either, can't talk or send message. Dunno if it a Sony vs Apple thing

 

[TheDabbinDave]

If GT6 is a PS4 launch title, it will be the lowest selling in the franchise. Compare the install base of actual PS3's in use and hopeful PS4 sales.

 

[MGTGT5]

It's going to be a Madden 10 situation. Gt6 will come on both systems. Ps3 and Ps4. Madden 10 went on Ps2 and Ps3.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

It's going to be a Madden 10 situation. Gt6 will come on both systems. Ps3 and Ps4. Madden 10 went on Ps2 and Ps3.

That would be really cool, but I really, really doubt it. if it was brought out on two platforms PD would never hear the end of it. Consider the amount of complaint threads in the GT5 forum. Double that. Add more for people saying it should have been on only PS4 and some more for people who think that GT6 PS3 and GT6 PS4 should be more/less compatible. See? Jordan would need about 50 new moderators just for the GT6 section.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

It's going to be a Madden 10 situation. Gt6 will come on both systems. Ps3 and Ps4. Madden 10 went on Ps2 and Ps3.

And PSP, Nintendo DS, 3Ds, iPhone, android, and 360.

We can speculate all we want. None of it matters until GT6 is announced.

 

[Samus]

It's going to be a Madden 10 situation. Gt6 will come on both systems. Ps3 and Ps4. Madden 10 went on Ps2 and Ps3.

Putting a sports game on two consoles and putting a game like GT on two different consoles are very different. They would never be the same. I mean they still release FIFA games on PS2, they would never have released GT5 on PS2, would they? No because it would be a totally different game. Sports games and budget games are the only games you'll ever see on two generations at the same time like that.

 

[Youngun]

It's going to be a Madden 10 situation. Gt6 will come on both systems. Ps3 and Ps4. Madden 10 went on Ps2 and Ps3.

Not a brilliant thing to point out but N4S Carbon came out on ps3/ps2. If it does come on both I want to know that it'll come on both. Not ps3, I preorder, then after release Kaz says its also on PS4

 

[tpark103]

I wonder if there's a possibility of releasing GT6 on both consoles - PS4 because it could be a good launch title and PS3 because it still has many users who don't want to pay for PS4 which will cost a lot of money at start. Of course PS3 version would have worse graphics to fit in 60 fps but whole content of PS4 version.

Hmmm I like that idea

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I can't recall any PS exclusives that came out on both PS2 & PS3.

 

[ch3ng]

Well 3 games have been confirmed for vita ps3 including N4S Most Wanted which I'm happy about (sly and Ratchet & Clank is the others) uncharted and assassins creed were between it (vita would be dlc only so developer loose no money then) hardly another would buy both

Nope cut Most Wanted. And the difference between a PS3 and a Vita game is not so huge. But the difference from the PS4 hardware and the vita will be huge.

I doubt that they will support Crossplay with PS4 and the Vita. The difference is to huge.

http://www.gamespot.com/need-for-sp...ed-for-speed-most-wanted-cross-play-63671860/

And

The handling is just as sharp and responsive, the drifting as perfectly pitched, which is impressive considering the differences between two machines. “On handheld the physics are very hard to get right because you’re very limited on memory but the handling is pretty much the same,” explains Ward. “We can do the same demo on Vita that we can on PS3.”

http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/08/15/need-for-speed-most-wanted-vitas-hidden-gem

PS Vita has huge problems with a almost 1:1 Port from the PS3.

Why do you think the Vita is capable of PS4 crossplay? That's impossible.

 

[Youngun]

Nope cut Most Wanted. And the difference between a PS3 and a Vita game is not so huge. But the difference from the PS4 hardware and the vita will be huge.

I doubt that they will support Crossplay with PS4 and the Vita. The difference is to huge.]

True I guess, not crossplays anyway crossbuy! You buy one game but get both versions. And progression is transferable so complete a few faces on the go then continue on console. Check out gamescom Sony event.

 

[deep_sky]

If GT6 is a PS4 launch title, it will be the lowest selling in the franchise. Compare the install base of actual PS3's in use and hopeful PS4 sales.

Posted about this before, but go and compare GT5's sales to that of GT3, and where they both released for their respective systems, and you will see that actually the opposite has happened. GT5 will likely be the lowest selling edition, despite releasing on a vast install base compared to that of GT3. You will also see that GT2 and GT4 released on larger install bases, yet both failed to outsell the previous version.

GT6 on PS4 does not categorically mean that it will be lowest selling main edition. If anything, going by history, it is GT6 on PS3 that would stand to be the lowest selling edition.

 

[Mulan]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/gran-turismo-6-is-for-playstation-4-hints-polyphony-digital/

from july, but i still think it holds quite reasonable.

 

[Tornado]

We're all aware of that interview with Kaz. It doesn't automatically become proof about how the next GT might be on PS4 just because the article that quoted him spun it so it does.

 

[QuikSlvr223]

4: With early PS4 launch there is time left in PS4 lifespan to launch GT7 if needed.

Didn't Kaz say it would be around 2018 when GT6 launches?

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Remove.

 

[J-KiLLA24]

Didn't Kaz say it would be around 2018 when GT6 launches?

Your sarcasm isn't really funny.

 

[Mulan]

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sony-ps4-to-feature-4k-display-compatibility

Seems like i may be right anyway. And not just release, 4k res that i wrote on the other thread where people thought i was crazy...well in the article they bring up the same reasons to assume 4k is coming as i did.

 

[avens]

it isn't crazy (actually it was obvious because that's how marketing works), but it'd be a bad idea that GT6 supports it.

 

[Mulan]

it isn't crazy (actually it was obvious because that's how marketing works), but it'd be a bad idea that GT6 supports it.

Actually not so bad...think of multimonitor support. 2x1080p or 3d passive with full HD

 

[avens]

with the cost of the game looking awful in comparison to what it does at "only" 1080p, which is the reason why it takes 3 playstation3s to run GT5 with 3 screens

 

[Samus]

Oh not this 4K nonsense again. The PS4 will not support 4K resolution GAMES unless it comes with a $500 GPU. Video, possibly, but there is no way on earth the rumoured PS4 hardware will play games in 4K native resolution at 30fps+.

 

[Mulan]

Oh not this 4K nonsense again. The PS4 will not support 4K resolution GAMES unless it comes with a $500 GPU. Video, possibly, but there is no way on earth the rumoured PS4 hardware will play games in 4K native resolution at 30fps+.

There is something called Moores law i think, stating that performance is doubled at least each 24 months. So with the release in the next 15-18 months there is a good chance this is possible. And since the drivers will be only PS4 optimized there is even bigger chance this can happen without problem or big cost.
As price will drop on the components Sony will probably loose money in the beginning and earn alot at the middle or end of its cycle.

 

[Samus]

There is something called Moores law i think, stating that performance is doubled at least each 24 months. So with the release in the next 15-18 months there is a good chance this is possible. And since the drivers will be only PS4 optimized there is even bigger chance this can happen without problem or big cost.
As price will drop on the components Sony will probably loose money in the beginning and earn alot at the middle or end of its cycle.

Yes, the top end of technology moves on at that speed but like I said unless the PS4 uses the latest and greatest GPU that costs over $500 the PS4 will not be capable of gaming at those resolutions.

To give you an idea of what i'm talking about many PC users run eyefinity tech which gives them 3 screens for display and a common display resolution for them is 5760x1080. If you use a HD6990, a video card that costs in the region of $800 and try to play Crysis 2 at 5760x1080 with very high settings you'll get an average of just under 50fps.

Now, 5760x1080 is 6,220,800 pixels in total. 4k is, depending on which definition you want to take, is 7,020,544. Full 4k, 4096x3112 is 12,746,752 pixels in total, pretty much 100% more pixels than Eyefinity. So that means for the PS4 to be able to game at 4K you're looking at a ludicrously expensive GPU and even then it may be a struggle. The rumoured PS4 GPU is a HD7670, a GPU which is probably about 1/4 as powerful as the HD6990.

Sorry but 4k gaming is not happening on the PS4.

 

[avens]

There is something called Moores law i think, stating that performance is doubled at least each 24 months. So with the release in the next 15-18 months there is a good chance this is possible. And since the drivers will be only PS4 optimized there is even bigger chance this can happen without problem or big cost.
As price will drop on the components Sony will probably loose money in the beginning and earn alot at the middle or end of its cycle.

How many times we have told you there are compromises (I used that word lots today) in console gaming. Today, and for the next decade, 4K resolution instead of 1080p is not as advantageous as having better effects (lightning, shadows, dust, etc.) and filters.

Sure the PS4 will be able to run games at "4K", but it'll look terrible in comparison to what they look at 1080p. Even the PS3 could achieve 4k but with snes mario kart graphics.

 

[Foxiol]

There is something called Moores law i think, stating that performance is doubled at least each 24 months. So with the release in the next 15-18 months there is a good chance this is possible. And since the drivers will be only PS4 optimized there is even bigger chance this can happen without problem or big cost.
As price will drop on the components Sony will probably loose money in the beginning and earn alot at the middle or end of its cycle.

Okay wait a minute that´s enough people...for the love of god...

4K resolutions are possible on TV´s if the TV is the size of at least 80".

Sony is going to release 30.000$ TV´s capable for 4096p (so for times 1080p) but that is just for the size of it. It means that higher TV´s are going to have better quality on image.

That´s one thing.

Also Sony has 200$ blue rays in Japan that can do 4k resolution but that if you have the TV that can make 4k resolutions all together....if not you are going to be stuck in your native Full HD TV with the max that can handle...in that case 1080p.

So you´ll need both TV´s and that "blue ray 4k".

BUT movies are movies...it is content that was rendered and recorded at that "upscaled" resolution and with a proper FPS or bit-rate in that case so you can see it all smooth in your TV. Your TV (if you own a 30.000$ 80" 4k reslution one lmao) has an internal processor that can make that 4k resolution will be possible...and thanks again for the 4k blue ray 4k too who has other one.


BUUUUUUUUUUUUT GAMESSSSSS or FOR GAMES is other story my friend.

There are no GPU´s in the market that can run NATIVE 4k resolutions at all. Not even the expensive ones, not even the best ones. Yo´ll need at least 3 GPU´s and 3 or 4 monitors to make it possible. And each monitor should be at least 1080p native resolution. Still the game will not be in that resolution it will be UPSCALED to that resolution because is the one that you can see with those 4 monitors.

And the most important thing is that you don´t know how much processing power do you need to play and see it in real time with that amount of pixels in one screen...it will be so much that not even with the best CPU and GPU combined you can make it playable.

That talking about native which still doesn´t exist...upscaled is other story but you need the 80" 4k HD TV you know...and still when you upscale something which isn´t properly rendered or made in that resolution you have to stretch pixels...and do you know what happens when this happens?

I may ask ...do you own a PC? Do you play games on PC at all?

Because people talks about 4k as consoles are the top of the technology but no...consoles are not on top of anything that´s why we buy them for less money than PC´s and stuff...

It will be possible for the PS4 for being capable to do 4k resolutions but just for movies not for games...it will use the same system as Blue Ray 4k are using which has not so much to do with the GPU that makes games "run" in our console. There is a chip for that...but again you will need the TV.

Games on 4k resolutions...give me a break...

 

[Mulan]

Yes, the top end of technology moves on at that speed but like I said unless the PS4 uses the latest and greatest GPU that costs over $500 the PS4 will not be capable of gaming at those resolutions.

To give you an idea of what i'm talking about many PC users run eyefinity tech which gives them 3 screens for display and a common display resolution for them is 5760x1080. If you use a HD6990, a video card that costs in the region of $800 and try to play Crysis 2 at 5760x1080 with very high settings you'll get an average of just under 50fps.

Now, 5760x1080 is 6,220,800 pixels in total. 4k is, depending on which definition you want to take, is 7,020,544. Full 4k, 4096x3112 is 12,746,752 pixels in total, pretty much 100% more pixels than Eyefinity. So that means for the PS4 to be able to game at 4K you're looking at a ludicrously expensive GPU and even then it may be a struggle. The rumoured PS4 GPU is a HD7670, a GPU which is probably about 1/4 as powerful as the HD6990.

Sorry but 4k gaming is not happening on the PS4.

Think it will be more of 8,3 megapixels rather than 12,7. And yes i know about performance. We will see how its built and if its gaming or just video. But still i think major thing for its 4k ability is for better 3D and perhaps in a near future glassesfree 3d. That is perhaps 5 years away but this machine is built to last around 8-10 and the future is 4k, larger screens, 3d without glasses, Oled tv and SONY GAIKAI: streaming games (like ps3 games) so you can play them on pads, phones or tv without having a ps3. (mentioned this too...its coming.)

 

[avens]

where did you get more resolution is tied to better 3d capabilities? And who cares about "3d" anyway

Also, http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html.

"4K" is not the holy grail, and achieving it does not mean better graphics per se. Nowadays and in the next 10 years it is actually the opposite. This does not work like watching tv does.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

where did you get more resolution is tied to better 3d capabilities? And who cares about "3d" anyway

People who like 3D, DUH.