500PP British LightWeights

[Kwicko]

Now that we've pretty conclusively shown that taking the lead in Lap 3 is quite feasible, it's on to lowering the PP of the cars to see how low they can go. 484pp in the 111R still got the lead by Lap 3, so lower it shall go...

I tried some other cars - AC Cobra 427, Esprit V8, TVR Tuscan, etc. - and won with them all, but the little 111R just "feels" right for me on this one. That's a surprise, because I normally don't like the handling of that car. I seem to have stumbled upon a setup that's quite stable.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

Now that we've pretty conclusively shown that taking the lead in Lap 3 is quite feasible, it's on to lowering the PP of the cars to see how low they can go. 484pp in the 111R still got the lead by Lap 3, so lower it shall go...

I tried some other cars - AC Cobra 427... - and won with them all

Try it with all the aids stripped off and at least 10pp below the max limit, that'll keep you on your toes.

 

[car101]

500PP British LightWeights, i am running a lotus elise sport 190' 98 best lap 1:15
could only get 3rd so i watch the replay to see what the lead car was doing also a
lotus elise sport 190'98. because of the starting pole at number one first lap was 1:02
2nd lap 1:18 3rd lap 1:17 4th lap 1:17 no way was i gong to overtake the leader with
such a head start

 

[parabulla]

I had a rough go of it initially with the TVR T350C running at 497pp. Switched over to the Evora at 485 and it made things a heckuva lot easier. Such a well-balanced car.

 

[basswerks1]

Antmeg26 tune for the 111r is fantastic !! Thanks buddy!!

 

[Dinamix]

The AI ALWAYS plays to the car you are driving if you are in the ballpark.

Sure does.

Though I stay clear of ballparks and usually drive on the road.

 

[Dinamix]

Fugu to Kaiser;

"I enjoyed that car 23 months ago. I golded all those races within an hour. I called you a liar, cos you said you took the lead in all races in lap 3. That is a FAT LIE.

In Grand valley and in Fuji, you did not took the lead in lap 3. "

~~~

Well I don't know if Kaiser did but I certainly did it again, twice for good luck, and both times took the lead in the 3rd lap before that extremely tight R/hander at the bottom left of the track map.
Lap 1 1.58.303
Lap 2 1.55.309
Lap 3 1.56.959.

My quickest lap in the 6 I just did was on my first try 1.54.641 in lap 2.

I can't see why anyone couldn't achieve this taking 1st in lap 3 as I am definitely not 'up there' when it comes to TT. I am always about 3 or 4 seconds off the pace and over 1,000 or more.

It is certainly doable, and for this test I never cut any corners.

Like maybe you and Kaiser should record it and show us as evidence.

 

[Kwicko]

Try it with all the aids stripped off and at least 10pp below the max limit, that'll keep you on your toes.

I'm just not that handy with the DS3 controller! I can tiptoe the car around with TCS off and SRF disabled, but the braking just kills me. My thumb has no "feel" for the brake pedal!

 

[Giulietta73]

I'm just not that handy with the DS3 controller! I can tiptoe the car around with TCS off and SRF disabled, but the braking just kills me. My thumb has no "feel" for the brake pedal!

Try it with brake balance F2 R1. For some reason the suspension feels more alive with ABS off; going into a slide feels more predictable and more controllable. For me it has rejuvenated GT5 and, like you, I use a DS3:tup:

 

[Denz3b]

I'm just not that handy with the DS3 controller! I can tiptoe the car around with TCS off and SRF disabled, but the braking just kills me. My thumb has no "feel" for the brake pedal!

You should reassign your buttons. Personally I use L2 R2 for acceleration and braking. That might help you

 

[Tay94]

I used the Standard TVR Tuscan to Gold all 5 races. Didn't have any glare at Toscana, either.

 

[StirlingMoose]

Here's a challenge for advanced drivers. No aids, no ABS at 485PP with the AC 427. A video of Grand Valley East with the same car and set up will follow tomorrow.

Having had a go at this I must say that is seriously impressive. It's probably not the ideal situation for my first foray into ABS=0 driving but what a difference. I've heard it said before that ABS in GT5 is more than just ABS IRL and I have to agree. I was trying to brake in a straight line and come off the brakes before turning in and the back end still came flying round. What's that all about?

 

[Giulietta73]

Having had a go at this I must say that is seriously impressive. It's probably not the ideal situation for my first foray into ABS=0 driving but what a difference. I've heard it said before that ABS in GT5 is more than just ABS IRL and I have to agree. I was trying to brake in a straight line and come off the brakes before turning in and the back end still came flying round. What's that all about?

What's your brake balance? I've followed the advice in one of the ABS Off threads to bring the balance down to 3:2 or 2:1 or less. This really takes a lot of the twitchiness while braking. In the Enzo I was down to 1:0 to dial out the erratic back end!!! Great fun!!👍

 

[Rotorist]

Grand Valley was pretty tough, had to try 6 times before golding it with Lotus Evora ´09 (abs 1, no other aids). Trial mountain was also a bit of a challenge (remember not to cheat in that first corner guys!). Other tracks are easily golded with standard driving. PD has raised difficulty level in these Seasonals lately, which is very nice.

I fully agree!!! 👍

 

[Kwicko]

Oh, I've got those mapped as well, but I've been playing this way since the very first Gran Turismo, and my fingers don't want to re-learn where things are!

 

[StirlingMoose]

What's your brake balance? I've followed the advice in one of the ABS Off threads to bring the balance down to 3:2 or 2:1 or less. This really takes a lot of the twitchiness while braking. In the Enzo I was down to 1:0 to dial out the erratic back end!!! Great fun!!👍

BB was 3:2. I tried fiddling with the LSD and ballast to try to improve things but to no avail. The strange thing is it seems to have less grip even with no brake applied. It's as if when I come off the brakes the back has no grip at all. I'm not sure I'd describe it as fun but it's interesting and I'll certainly have another go but next time I'll try in a car that's not handling like it's on snow anyway.

To cheer myself up I put ABS back to 1 and had a blast round Toscana. I had to check that I hadn't put SRF on by mistake it was so different. I now have even greater respect for the ABS=0 masochists.

 

[Zippysalt]

Just won all races with a premium Elise 111R '04
Weight Reduction -3
Window Weight Reduction
Rigidity Improvement
All Aero Parts, downforce 5
Ballast 200kg pos. 0

Sports ECU
Engine Tuning +3
All intake & Exhaust parts
High RPM Turbo
=309bhp

Gear Ratios

1st 3.490
2nd 2.424
3rd 1.802
4th 1.403
5th 1.142
6th 0.973

Final 4.529
Max Speed 162

LSD 10/40/20

-25 -25
7.0 6.0
6. 6
6. 6
5. 5

Camber 2.0 2.0
Toe. 0.00. 0.20

Brake 5. 5

It worked for me first time out on each track...
Happy Racing

Thanks for this. It accomplished two things for me, golds and allowed me to really enjoy driving a car I used to loathe. I will replay this seasonal a few more times with this tune.

 

[krasch27]

BB was 3:2. I tried fiddling with the LSD and ballast to try to improve things but to no avail. The strange thing is it seems to have less grip even with no brake applied. It's as if when I come off the brakes the back has no grip at all. I'm not sure I'd describe it as fun but it's interesting and I'll certainly have another go but next time I'll try in a car that's not handling like it's on snow anyway.

To cheer myself up I put ABS back to 1 and had a blast round Toscana. I had to check that I hadn't put SRF on by mistake it was so different. I now have even greater respect for the ABS=0 masochists.

Try raising the rear ride height. I found it relieved throttle-off oversteer. Go crazy- raise it 20pts.

 

[Dalone]

Regarding ABS and aids in general, in the first two games, GT1 and 2, I never used the brakes at all, ever, and it was late in GT3 that I started using them. And 100% both games, GT3 as well. Never managed to gold the Red Toyota race car at Cote in one of the licence races before GT5 arrived. Perhaps I should go back and do it now. One day.

Looking back I expect that when I first started playing my ABS was off, and I knew little about any tuning matters and left most things alone back then. And in those days I always played with Auto transmission and only went to manual late in GT4. Can't even imagine playing auto now. Back then I usually always used ASM and SRF for every race, without really understanding their function.

And I only started using the hand brake in GT5.

Interested in the brake balance info by Giulietta, will give that a try.

 

[Dalone]

Nope, will never become an ABS deficient aficionado.

But again, for those who are, you have my respect.

 

[wc420pro]

Accomplished it with Elise 111R '04 tuned by sheene76 much easier than thought it would be:tup:

 

[sheene76]

Thanks for this. It accomplished two things for me, golds and allowed me to really enjoy driving a car I used to loathe. I will replay this seasonal a few more times with this tune.

I'm really glad it helped my friend, it's always cool to find a car that you can have some fun with as well as win races.

 

[sheene76]

Accomplished it with Elise 111R '04 tuned by sheene76 much easier than thought it would be:tup:

With a tune that matches the car, anything is possible, glad it helped.

 

[waddy2001]

Dying to try the Elise tune above but I bought the Jag race car last night so I have to grind just a bit to even get an oil change! My Audi R8 in the seasonal B-spec at Suzuka better win!

 

[Dalone]

Should be a new Time Trial today, had enough of this Seasonal for now.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Should be a new Time Trial today, had enough of this Seasonal for now.

Maybe it will be a TT/Drift event with the new Vette. PD could easily make it available for everyone just for these events. One of those non-tuning events like we had with the Nissan awhile back.

 

[Fat Buff Guy]

I used to think I was pretty good at GT5. After reading all 9 pages of this thread I think I might go crawl in a hole lol.

Guess I'll spend some time tonight in time trial lol.

 

[Kwicko]

Should be a new Time Trial today, had enough of this Seasonal for now.

Ha-hah! It's a new TT for 480pp or less Lotus non-racecars!

Hey, all that practice in the 111R came in pretty handy for golding it on Lap 1!

 

[Kwicko]

Maybe it will be a TT/Drift event with the new Vette. PD could easily make it available for everyone just for these events. One of those non-tuning events like we had with the Nissan awhile back.

I took it into the 620pp Supercar Challenge at 529pp (did an oil change) and scored 1.4 mil by winning at 130% payout. Let's just say I'm liking the new 'Vette so far!

 

[Kwicko]

I used to think I was pretty good at GT5. After reading all 9 pages of this thread I think I might go crawl in a hole lol.

Guess I'll spend some time tonight in time trial lol.

When you're done with the Lotus time trial, go back to the British Lightweights event and clean up on the easy money!