Ferrari F1 Challenge

[Dan76]

I don't get why more people don't run no ABS on these cars...they don't lock up too easily. Really, they are the most forgiving cars when it comes to braking. You can run BB like 5/4 or 4/3 and only have to let off a tiny bit once you're braking in to 4th-2nd gear corners. 5th gear corners you can brake as if you still have ABS on.

It might seem counterproductive to try and work on no ABS skills with such demanding cars, but it's really not so bad.

Also a good idea for Monza is to run the minimum amount of downforce. That brings the PP well in the 860s, and so that alone will let you win with some added credits due to running below the max PP.

Good points to change it up a bit. I did most of the tracks in the last set at 840PP a few times which was ok .. But for me the idea is to drive in deep then let er' rip and go fast .. extra cr's are no biggy....usually maxed out anyway.

Edit: ...thought I'd turn ABS off and give it a go at Spa. Started out at 4/5 tested a few turns and worked it up to 6/7. Over all was a great experience. (Obviously) Had to stay smooth and more precise w/ corner entry.. Avg. lap times were about 1:49.5. (W/ the F10) Which was good enough for a win. ...of course Spa is pretty wide open with not much demand for brakes overall .. Just take it easy in a few key places and u got it whooped.

Glad you posted this ... Highly recommended .. Made me focus on a more proper driving line which was cool and challenging w/ the DS3.

 

[chunder27]

Monza is rather easy really.

London is totally ridiculous, stupidly bouncy and daft and cars that stop on nthe exits when you get near them and then ram you at the next bend,.

This is a characteristic of this chellenge, if you get within a certain proximity of these cars on track in or around the apex, they just totally stop, very clever programming from the geeks, it measn you have to pass offline and not anywhere easy.

plus you get the usual 10 blockers and 1 guy who is decently quick.

Monaco is very tough, these things pathetically don't go that well, despite big downforce, low power to prevent wheelspin, they just don't turn in as an F1 car should.

Plus, why on earth do I have to watch 30 seconds of my car trolling round before the cras all go over the line! So rubbish, cmon guys this is such an easy thing to fix, Oh hang on you are busy using our money to race at the Nurburgring! lol

 

[ONEEYEMONSTaR]

Exactly! Cars are to fast to control them with pad (unfortunately I don't have a steering wheel). In previous F1 Ferrari seasonal I was using F10 and I won 3 out of 5 events. I know that those two were impossible for me to golden them

This is a simulation after all...I would occasionally use my until I got one of those HKS pads and when I used my wheel with pad setup, it's night and day the difference in driving a car you have confidence with and all of a sudden it's undrivable. All I use now is a wheel, because it is more forgiving on off tunes and allows you to go faster and react quicker using not only your hands, but feet too. I'm gonna jump on this seasonal today and see what's up?! F1 because how they handle and speeds they attain cause me issue when I go back to other cars for a while...I have to unlearn driving them

 

[hav07kajak]

I have now golden the first four events without too big problems and have started on Monaco. I can see that Monaco will be a very difficult track for me to win. I was surprised about London, usually I don’t like London, here with a F1 I think it is quite fun.

Have now finished Monaco in fourth attempt. It was great fun, but for sure I have never before needed to have so big turns on my steering wheel and needed to handle steering wheel and pedals so fast.

 

[Whodoyouthink]

Good points to change it up a bit. I did most of the tracks in the last set at 840PP a few times which was ok .. But for me the idea is to drive in deep then let er' rip and go fast .. extra cr's are no biggy....usually maxed out anyway.

Edit: ...thought I'd turn ABS off and give it a go at Spa. Started out at 4/5 tested a few turns and worked it up to 6/7. Over all was a great experience. (Obviously) Had to stay smooth and more precise w/ corner entry.. Avg. lap times were about 1:49.5. (W/ the F10) Which was good enough for a win. ...of course Spa is pretty wide open with not much demand for brakes overall .. Just take it easy in a few key places and u got it whooped.

Glad you posted this ... Highly recommended .. Made me focus on a more proper driving line which was cool and challenging w/ the DS3.

See, not so bad 👍.

Been running the F10 as well since I prefer the look. I have a dislike towards the treaded wheels on the F2007. I know game-wise the grip is no different, and also that A lot of the cars from that period in which the tires had the 4 treads were hellishly fast, but in my head I still prefer full slicks on my F1 cars.

DS3 as well.

I find even on London and Monaco, It's still not all that bad lock up wise. Yes, I lock up a bit more on those tracks, but again since these cars have very good thresholds and are quite forgiving, it's not the main factor in why I'm having trouble with the tracks. I feel it basically comes down to driving line.

The precision and timing need, especially with the DS3, is so important because a lot of the corners on those tracks basically require you turn start turning before you're even finished with the one you are turning in. Turn at the wrong time, and instead of just going wide or something and maybe barely losing a few tenths, you clip a wall and lose whole seconds in some cases.

Monza is rather easy really.

London is totally ridiculous, stupidly bouncy and daft and cars that stop on nthe exits when you get near them and then ram you at the next bend,.

This is a characteristic of this chellenge, if you get within a certain proximity of these cars on track in or around the apex, they just totally stop, very clever programming from the geeks, it measn you have to pass offline and not anywhere easy.

plus you get the usual 10 blockers and 1 guy who is decently quick.

Monaco is very tough, these things pathetically don't go that well, despite big downforce, low power to prevent wheelspin, they just don't turn in as an F1 car should.

Plus, why on earth do I have to watch 30 seconds of my car trolling round before the cras all go over the line! So rubbish, cmon guys this is such an easy thing to fix, Oh hang on you are busy using our money to race at the Nurburgring! lol

Agreed on many points.

Monza is by far the easiest and fastest top speed wise. I do admit that the chicanes can get a bit tricky though. I know they are the main reason I can't get even a bronze time on the Vettel X2010 challenges. Can't turn quick enough.

I'm finding London more challenging than Monaco. I haven't golded either yet, but I feel a little bit more comfortable with Monaco, so I think I'll be golding that first.

Don't get why they have those painfully long rolling starts on some of these...can't really tell if they were intentional or not but either way they feel like a product of laziness.

 

[Dan76]

See, not so bad 👍.

Been running the F10 as well since I prefer the look. I have a dislike towards the treaded wheels on the F2007. I know game-wise the grip is no different, and also that A lot of the cars from that period in which the tires had the 4 treads were hellishly fast, but in my head I still prefer full slicks on my F1 cars.

DS3 as well.

I find even on London and Monaco, It's still not all that bad lock up wise. Yes, I lock up a bit more on those tracks, but again since these cars have very good thresholds and are quite forgiving, it's not the main factor in why I'm having trouble with the tracks. I feel it basically comes down to driving line.

The precision and timing need, especially with the DS3, is so important because a lot of the corners on those tracks basically require you turn start turning before you're even finished with the one you are turning in. Turn at the wrong time, and instead of just going wide or something and maybe barely losing a few tenths, you clip a wall and lose whole seconds in some cases.

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Don't get why they have those painfully long rolling starts on some of these...can't really tell if they were intentional or not but either way they feel like a product of laziness.

Yeah, the F10 has a better look can't bring myself to look at the treads over the slicks. It does seem to me though the 07's have a bit more natural downforce .. Even the description brags about,"..the car had enough downforce to drive upside down.." .. I still prefer the F10 requires more driver input to me and is less forgiving when not respected.

Have only hot lapped London a bit yesterday to a 44 sec best .. Need more work in getting use to track in the F10 before attempting the Seasonal .. As far as Monaco goes?... Yeah it's somewhere in the future lol

Edit: getting chassis (still need to loosen it up a bit) driver combo better at London w/ a best hotlap time of 40.575 .. Still need consistency on my part before I make a go at challenge.

Honestly I've spent too much time at Nürburgring (which I miss the 24h challenge already lol) and a few other favs ..it's good to expand my horizons in these challenges to learn new courses. A touring racer needs to learn how to adapt quick, so it's a good thing. Wether or not I'll ever race again in the real world GT is a great place to stay sharp and stretch yourself. At 1st I thought the best thing for London was C4 ... Well, I actually am starting to enjoy it.

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I always figured the long rolling starts were a part of the game loading process.

 

[eKretz]

It does seem to me though the 07's have a bit more natural downforce .. Even the description brags about,"..the car had enough downforce to drive upside down.."

Pretty much every F1 car in the last 20+ years has had enough downforce to technically allow it to drive upside down at the proper speed.

 

[Dan76]

Pretty much every F1 car in the last 20+ years has had enough downforce to technically allow it to drive upside down at the proper speed.

Good point.

 

[wWsLack]

This was a fun challenge! The F1 handles only 2nd best to the x2010. These cars stick to the track well and handle with extreme nimbleness.

Racing on Eifel 308A is like visiting an old friend. Some fond memories there from the Previous (me thinks) "Super Car Challenge" and the track where most money can be made (again). At 835PP the money is just shy of 2mil, 1,988,120. For me the PP here may be able to go down -10 to perhaps 825PP, but laps have to be perfect in order to do so. I'll have a go later at 830pp which should bump the money to 2mil+.

After this I jumped over the Formula Eifel challenge. Big difference in handling where the rear is brake sensitive in turns. Seems it's better to let off the gas early or soft drag the brakes before the apexes. Compared the F1's, the formula cars lack Down Force. I enjoy the tire sounds when your on the edge in these cars.

Lastly I'd like the thank PD for having the custom circuits. It brings freshness to the game where driving the same tracks repeatedly can be boring, monotonous and stale.
The Custom tracks and Seasonal's help GT5 shine and keep many interested.

Reminds me of the ole cowbell skit, "Need More Tracks" !

 

[AspecBob]

Thanks Shoe for the tune and Oink for the videos and advice 👍

 

[ONEEYEMONSTaR]

Monza is rather easy really.

London is totally ridiculous, stupidly bouncy and daft and cars that stop on nthe exits when you get near them and then ram you at the next bend,.

This is a characteristic of this chellenge, if you get within a certain proximity of these cars on track in or around the apex, they just totally stop, very clever programming from the geeks, it measn you have to pass offline and not anywhere easy.

plus you get the usual 10 blockers and 1 guy who is decently quick.

Monaco is very tough, these things pathetically don't go that well, despite big downforce, low power to prevent wheelspin, they just don't turn in as an F1 car should.

What he said^^^^^^^^^^^! Monza fairly straight forward flat out. London I tried and failed..DNF. Spa fairly straight foward flat out. Monza, something about this track with any car just doesn't work for me. After over 2 hours using Shoe67's tune and tweaking it every race, I managed a 4th place. Back at it today

...and starting at the rear 15 seconds back from the lead car with 10 blocker between using F1's is kind of easy to over come on some tracks downright stupid almost impossible on others.

 

[Jaybar]

These were fun but certainly challenging for me. The F1 cars go so fast it's hard for us old racers to react quickly enough. I wish I could play these in slow motion or something.

Got gold in all with the 2007, and while some were fairly easy, London and Monaco took multiple tries. I started with the 2010, but had a hard time keeping it on the track. Switched to the 2007 that had a tune from a past event, and had much better results. Seemed much more stable.

Thanks to those who have posted their tunes here and in the past, and to Oink for his videos. Sure helps to have some expert help and advice once in a while.

 

[Dan76]

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Here is my tune for the FERRARI F10

871pp
691hp
570kg
46/54 weight
RH tires

PARTS:
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Fully Customizable Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Brake Balance Controller

SUSPENSION:
Ride Height- 0/0
Spring Rate- 18.3/17.8
Extension- 8/10
Compression- 7/9
Anti Roll Bar- 4/5
Camber- 2.6/1.6
Toe- -0.15/0.22

LSD:
Torque- 5
Acceleration- 5
Braking- 14

AERODYNAMICS:
Front- 123
Rear- 159

BRAKE BALANCE:
Front- 10
Rear- 10

BALLAST:
Amount- 10
Position- -50

NOTES:
This car is very quick if you can be smooth in your turning (I recommend Active Steering for DS3 users). As with any car at high speed it is very hard to keep control through fast corners (especially Spa). I managed to win with this tune at Spa by 18sec. Very quick but this car is not forgiving at all. One mistake and you will find yourself swimming through sand Happy racing 👍

Highly recommended tune for London 👍

Thanks for posting it Shoe!!

I gave it a go at Spa and didn't like it much, so I put it on the back burner... Worked my tail off learning London and coming up w/ a chassis that would suit .. Squeezed out a Gold but still wasn't happy w/ the amount of work it took to keep it off the wall! ....if it were the real deal I would say I destroyed about a billion$$$ worth of F10's (...was still fun learning the track and more about the chassis)

I remembered your tune and thought.... Agh,,,, chassis 5 set up C Shoe67 ..hmmm I'll give it a go!!!!

You've just been added to my list of favorite chassis specialist .. No kiddn' this set up at London is Racy to say the least. You can stuff it in, juice it up through the center and let er' rip common' off!!! ... and she won't let u down w/ a best lap for me in the mid 39's in race trim .. Gotta love it!

Thanks again!! ...and another reason why I love GTPlanet! 👍

 

[trusy]

These were fun but certainly challenging for me. The F1 cars go so fast it's hard for us old racers to react quickly enough. I wish I could play these in slow motion or something.

Got gold in all with the 2007, and while some were fairly easy, London and Monaco took multiple tries. I started with the 2010, but had a hard time keeping it on the track. Switched to the 2007 that had a tune from a past event, and had much better results. Seemed much more stable.

Thanks to those who have posted their tunes here and in the past, and to Oink for his videos. Sure helps to have some expert help and advice once in a while.

Hi Jarbar, I have also gone back to the '2007' and I have managed 2nd at Monaco after hours of bashing off the side the walls, so was hoping if you would share you tune. Thanks.

 

[ocd1920]

This event is pure fun!

 

[Jaybar]

"Hi Jarbar, I have also gone back to the '2007' and I have managed 2nd at Monaco after hours of bashing off the side the walls, so was hoping if you would share you tune. Thanks."

Here is my tune for the 2007....don't remember where I got this, and it looks like some of it is stock such as the LSD. Therefore, I would suggest looking around a bit to maybe find a better tune.

870pp
721hp
577kg
48/52 weight
RH tires

PARTS:
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Fully Customizable Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Brake Balance Controller

SUSPENSION:
Ride Height- 0/0
Spring Rate- 16.8/17.0
Extension- 6/7
Compression- 6/7
Anti Roll Bar- 6/5
Camber- 4.0/4.0
Toe- -0.15/0.50

LSD:
Torque- 7
Acceleration- 35
Braking- 15

AERODYNAMICS:
Front- 110
Rear- 165

BRAKE BALANCE:
Front- 6
Rear- 6

BALLAST:
Amount- 32
Position- -50

Transmission is stock, but I fudged the final gear depending on the track.
Not sure who to attribute this "tune" to, so if you recognize it let me know and I can give proper credit. It was good enough for me to gold all five races, with only London and Monaco taking multiple tries. Hope it helps....

 

[jlbmel]

I used a premium F2007 fully broken in and no oil change.
Downforce was set to max.
Transmission top speed was adjusted for each track. I used 186 mph and 224 mph.
Adjusted power limiter to allow for 871PP.
All other car settings were default.
TC1, ABS1, DFGT wheel.

Monza, Spa and Eifel were very easy.
London was easy. You just need to drive clean laps and avoid hitting the slow AI cars in the corners.
Monaco was hard because I could not do 8 clean laps. I would always mess up at least one lap and finish in second place. The car was capable but not the driver. Once I hit all the laps clean, I won by 5 seconds.

 

[trusy]

Thanks Jarbar, still not cracked it, but much smoother with your set up, just not on my best game tonight, I try tomorrow.

 

[FormulaKimball]

First time back to GT5 in about six months thanks to this cool event Thank you PD for the nice Formula races and NO MORE FORCED SRF

I started with about 834pp on my F2007 but I think the oil is dirty now, finished a second run at Monaco (my favorite track in this seasonal) with only 826pp. Also too lazy to put the G27 back in my rig so I'm using the Fanatec 911, really chunky and slows me by about a second a lap but oh well

Surprised at how easy it was to win Eifel in one try... 12th for about 3 laps and then all the sudden the overtakes just kept coming. I love tracks like that (lots of blind undulating corners). The rest were also fair except I see the ParkBots are still as as always...

Here's my setup in case it helps anyone:
546hp 631kg 826pp ABS off (no aids)

Ride height 0 0
Springs 20.0 20.0
Dampers ext 10 10
Dampers comp 8 8
Anti roll bars 7 7
Camber 2.0 1.0
Toe 0.00 0.30
LSD 7 32 14
Aero 150 190
BB 4 3
Weight 86 0
Power 79.5%
Transmission 1st 4.856 2nd 3.483 3rd 2.710 4th 2.208
5th 1.844 6th 1.590 7th 1.410 Final 5.072

As for the 911 wheel, finally got it feeling pretty good with the F2007 (whose steering rack I've always found too slow, I got tennis elbow from yanking the DFGT wheel during the last Ferrari F1 challenge when the Nurburgring 24h was in there):
Sen 720 FF 10 Sho 30 Dri 5 Lin 0 Dea 0 Spr -3 Dpr 3

Not sure I want to keep trying with low pp but I'll bet if you start trimming aero this car will still be fast in the high 700pp range...

 

[Dan76]

Off to Monaco for the weekend lol

Can NOT believe I haven't driven that course before... Just did some late night hot laps to get acquainted WOW what a beutiful place.. The course itself (which is superb and very well laid out) and the scenery ... Awesome vaca spot to say the least .. Will be added to my dream vaca list no doubt.

Hotlaps went well, hoping the 1:15/16ish - mentioned in an earlier post is correct to do the trick - is true .. I was able to do a few consec at 1:18.8/9/8 (Using a mod version of shoe's tune [w some fine tuning and more work on the drivers part should be able to get there i hope]. The Rollin' road blocks and or the F10's parked in the corners will make it interesting, I'm sure ... To say the least .. But so far so good. 👍

 

[Shoe67]

Won Monaco with 810PP.what an insane race. I was smoking my tires through pretty much every corner.

 

[Jaywalker]

Off to Monaco for the weekend lol

Hotlaps went well, hoping the 1:15/16ish - mentioned in an earlier post is correct to do the trick - is true .. I was able to do a few consec at 1:18.8/9/8 (Using a mod version of shoe's tune [w some fine tuning and more work on the drivers part should be able to get there i hope]. The Rollin' road blocks and or the F10's parked in the corners will make it interesting, I'm sure ... To say the least .. But so far so good. 👍

Come back & comment again when you've tried the race...

 

[trusy]

"Hi Jarbar, I have also gone back to the '2007' and I have managed 2nd at Monaco after hours of bashing off the side the walls, so was hoping if you would share you tune. Thanks."

Here is my tune for the 2007....don't remember where I got this, and it looks like some of it is stock such as the LSD. Therefore, I would suggest looking around a bit to maybe find a better tune.

870pp
721hp
577kg
48/52 weight
RH tires

SUSPENSION:
Ride Height- 0/0
Spring Rate- 16.8/17.0
Extension- 6/7
Compression- 6/7
Anti Roll Bar- 6/5
Camber- 4.0/4.0
Toe- -0.15/0.50

LSD:
Torque- 7
Acceleration- 35
Braking- 15

AERODYNAMICS:
Front- 110
Rear- 165

BRAKE BALANCE:
Front- 6
Rear- 6

BALLAST:
Amount- 32
Position- -50

Transmission is stock, but I fudged the final gear depending on the track.
Not sure who to attribute this "tune" to, so if you recognize it let me know and I can give proper credit. It was good enough for me to gold all five races, with only London and Monaco taking multiple tries. Hope it helps....

Gold for Monaco with a total time of 10.13.333. & best lap of 1.15.301. And to Quote Shoe67 "What an insane race". I too was smoking my tires through pretty much every corner. Many thanks go to Jarbar for sharing tune.

 

[Dan76]

Come back & comment again when you've tried the race...

...thx for the encouragement lol ...when car n mainly driver are ready I'll give it a go ... or a hundred goes...

 

[akyp]

I used a premium F2007 fully broken in and no oil change.
Downforce was set to max.
Transmission top speed was adjusted for each track. I used 186 mph and 224 mph.
Adjusted power limiter to allow for 871PP.
All other car settings were default.
TC1, ABS1, DFGT wheel.

Monza, Spa and Eifel were very easy.
London was easy. You just need to drive clean laps and avoid hitting the slow AI cars in the corners.
Monaco was hard because I could not do 8 clean laps. I would always mess up at least one lap and finish in second place. The car was capable but not the driver. Once I hit all the laps clean, I won by 5 seconds.

This is interesting as I've also won all events with the F2007, but with 100% power and trimmed the downforce to meet 871pp. With max downforce and de-tuned power there's no way I could win, even in London and Monaco.

 

[Dan76]

Update: w/out assists and with ABS on 1 ... Car is still on top of da track .. Lacks grip .. Ice skatin' a bit lol ... Mid 1:16's ...gettin there..

....w skid force on made a few laps with the big 11 (wanted to let them roll for a few laps to get a quick replay to confirm their lap times which were in the 1:17s confirming it will take a 1:15 ..any bit of info helps lol) ... Had a blast did about 3 or 4 laps all in the 1:15 area .. Till I got depressed ... And realized I got a long way to go w the chassis/driver to get decent bite, rotation, and all that good stuff ... Anywho .. What an awesome place!!

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....just a side note: ...I sure hope they make the swapping chassis and the oil change tune up process more user friendly in GT6 .. In practice mode u have to back all the way out just to change chassis...and for a tune up (in any mode). Sad!! ...I know it has to do w the car info, whole game loading process.... It *is* 2013 ... Hope they've advanced a bit here lol ...ok that's it one or two complaints .. Ignore it!

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...back to the program: ...would love to see some vids w all that highly sought after tire smoke 👍

 

[Dan76]

...had a great time (and honestly a bit frustrating at times) yesterday learning Monaco ( in practice mode). It' worthy the time and effort it's a great place/layout. Cracked slightly into the 15's but need waaaaaay more consistency and better timing on my part to make a go the right way .. Who's insane idea was it to block off the streets and go 200 on em .. If your not carful here u may end up in the drink!

...so to have some fun and blow some steam .. I switched it to Arcade mode .. With a best lap of 1:13.44 lol ..What a wild ride .. I had a blast .. All I needed was a couple machine guns on the side to complete the arcade experience .. I needed a good laugh to cap the night off 👍

...I'm pretty hard on myself and stubborn so, just know that Eifel (needed to complete the 5 for the prize lol)will not be touched till I earn Monaco the right way (if it be possible till they close the challenge). So, I got a bit of time to enjoy the process.... I'm going to keep telling myself it's possible anyway .. I don't give up easy...Peace!

 

[ocd1920]

Monza (got used to F1 again), Spa, no issue (fast), Eifel, no issue (fun), London, practice, practice, practice, laps get faster, made one slight error, 1st by 1.548 secs. Cote d'zur...we'll see...

Probably the best seasonal yet as far as speed, concentration, and total focus...

 

[Jaywalker]

...I'm pretty hard on myself and stubborn so, just know that Eifel (needed to complete the 5 for the prize lol)will not be touched till I earn Monaco the right way (if it be possible till they close the challenge). So, I got a bit of time to enjoy the process.... I'm going to keep telling myself it's possible anyway .. I don't give up easy...Peace!

You can win Eifel easily with the F2007 in the OCD. TCS & ABS on 1. Do an oil change & adjust top speed. (I think I set it to 330km/h - 205 mph.) After fighting pretty hard in this race for the win with my tuned F2010 & F2007, using the OCD car was a walk in the park... 👍 I won by over 10 sec without even pushing hard.

 

[Denz3b]

The standard F2007 from the ocd is a beast! It got me the win in London and second in Monaco with no tuning (just reduced top speed). Should crack it tomorrow