6 star ticket from the Mazda event gives an engine swap!

[Theufcveteran]

Problem is risking a ban if everything is logged.

Never happening. We didn’t create the glitch, it’s a fault in the game’s code. Banning players for their own mistake would create a **** storm.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

Never happening. We didn’t create the glitch, it’s a fault in the game’s code. Banning players for their own mistake would create a **** storm.

Kind of.

What's the difference between a glitch and an exploit?

A glitch is a 1-time occurence. Something that happens at random that the game isn't intended to do.

An exploit is finding and learning what caused the glitch, and then actively using the glitch to benefit you in ways that break the games intended flow.

In finding out how to get more engines from a ticket, you'd be using an exploit which is considered cheating, and there may well be something in the PD TOS and Sony TOS about that..

PD have 3 options the way I see it.

1 - patch the exploit and leave things as-is. The engine swaps won't impact online races due to BoP after all...

2 - patch the exploit and ban the people that used it excessively, beyond the doubt of "I didn't know what I was doing wasn't supposed to happen". A lot of games with online components take this route towards cheating - look at CoD and its latest approach towards people cheating there for examples.

3 - patch the exploit and reset the saves. This one I really can't see them doing, as GT7 saves on PDs servers, so the only way to reset saves to before the exploit is known would likely be to roll-back everyone's saves, even if they didn't use the exploit. That would sincerely upset the entire playerbase.

 

[Theufcveteran]

Kind of.

What's the difference between a glitch and an exploit?

A glitch is a 1-time occurence. Something that happens at random that the game isn't intended to do.

An exploit is finding and learning what caused the glitch, and then actively using the glitch to benefit you in ways that break the games intended flow.

In finding out how to get more engines from a ticket, you'd be using an exploit which is considered cheating, and there may well be something in the PD TOS and Sony TOS about that..

True, but this isn’t really going to win you any online races - not competitively, and you can set BoP and PP restrictions (I think) in lobbies.

Pretty sure they won’t, though, it’s not hurting other players and to ban people for this, plus the flak they’ve already received? Not a good look.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

True, but this isn’t really going to win you any online races - not competitively, and you can set BoP and PP restrictions (I think) in lobbies.

Pretty sure they won’t, though, it’s not hurting other players and to ban people for this, plus the flak they’ve already received? Not a good look.

I agree with you. Given that PD have already shown certain mods, like the widebody kits, won't be allowed in BoP races, it stands to reason that engine swaps follow suit.

I'm interested to see how PD and Sony handle it as it is likely a TOS breach... If they don't enforce TOS now and ban people, what happens down the line if something more severe happens and they have to enforce TOS? Will people rise up and point at the double-standards created by only enforcing TOS sometimes but not everytime?

I think the best route for PD at this point is to publicly acknowledge the glitch, patch and move on.

 

[Islaygaz]

True, but this isn’t really going to win you any online races - not competitively, and you can set BoP and PP restrictions (I think) in lobbies.

Pretty sure they won’t, though, it’s not hurting other players and to ban people for this, plus the flak they’ve already received? Not a good look.

Not to mention they didn’t ban people that used the date glitch for roulette tickets and they’re sort of the same thing!

 

[Meythia]

This one I really can't see them doing, as GT7 saves on PDs servers, so the only way to reset saves to before the exploit is known would likely be to roll-back everyone's saves, even if they didn't use the exploit.

Depends on how the savegames are handled. I highly doubt it is a single file for all players and more a file for each player individually. Then the next question would be how many details are being logged and how much attention is required to go through these logs.
And lastly how much does PD as a company still want to create a bad mood around their game for resetting or banning players who had fun to no-ones harm?

 

[Nebuc72]

If they didn't ban for the roulette date glitch, they wont ban for this.

It's not cheating in a manner that warrants a ban anyway, imo - rather just a patchable exploit. It's not like you're using something to give you an unfair advantage over others.

 

[tiberiusteng]

I really don't think they'll ban this glitch since even if you keep getting and redeeming those 4 stars and 6 stars engine tickets the money income is much less than going legit Tokyo Expressway WTC 600 ... go figure.

You got to have those old cars to put engines in, and those engines can't be sold, only deleted if you don't want them.

Go figure. 🤣

 

[salyn]

Not to mention they didn’t ban people that used the date glitch for roulette tickets and they’re sort of the same thing!

Nor did they do anything to punish players who used the Tomahawk exploit to farm Tokyo that took them well over a month to fix, nor have they done anything to stop the players who are using remote play scripts to passively farm credits.

 

[salyn]

I really don't think they'll ban this glitch since even if you keep getting and redeeming those 4 stars and 6 stars engine tickets the money income is much less than going legit Tokyo Expressway WTC 600 ... go figure.

That depends on how much we'll be able to sell all these rally cars for if we're ever able to sell cars from our garage.

 

[Beezer215]

Guys guys guys. I just saw they're going to reset everyone's save file who used the roulette ticket. OMG, we're screwed. We have to start over! 😨

Naw, can you imagine worrying about that for yet another thing that PD screwed up? 😂

 

[Grimm6Jack]

No one was banned for the date glitch.
No one was banned for the ridiculously obvious Tomahawk X glitch...

No one therefore is going to be banned for this. This, much like the other 2 glitches, is not going to tive you an advantage over others Online, which is where cheating matters the most (or rather, it's where cheating only matters).

PD will just patch this and move on like they did before. This is something at least that they have been very consistent on.

People are going to be mad (and with reason) if PD doesn't allow us to sell GIFTED cars. And it will also be stupid to not be able to sell parts either... Since, duplicates happen.

 

[Islaygaz]

People are going to be mad (and with reason) if PD doesn't allow us to sell GIFTED cars. And it will also be stupid to not be able to sell parts either... Since, duplicates happen.

it’s going to take so much time discarding all the NSX Gr.B‘s for nothing if we can’t sell gift cars 😂