6th Gen Chevrolet Camaro: 2017 ZL1, Z/28
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I like the RS design, it reminds me of the Taurus Police Interceptor. If that was the entire base of the design across to the SS and higher, I'd be happy.
But nope. Lets stick the big gaping maw of a fish on the flagship model (for now)
But nope. Lets stick the big gaping maw of a fish on the flagship model (for now)
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If the grill design wasn't so horrid, I'd love this newer Camaro design. The Camaro ZL1 wasn't broken looks-wise. Why try to "fix" it with a design like this? Sure, we may probably get used to this design after a while, but this is a step in the wrong direction up front. Sides and rear are fine to me, though.
What the hell were you thinking, Chevrolet?
What the hell were you thinking, Chevrolet?
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I think this was peak Camaro in terms of design
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Agreed.I think this was peak Camaro in terms of design
The first-gen of the modern Camaro pulled off a muscular look, that wasn't overdone nor was it too conservative.
The current facelift, however, is little more than a dramatic, over-styled mess.
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The design of the RS looks fine, but the SS to me looks horrendous. It was a mistake not keeping the top and bottom grills separate.
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It's probably time for GM to ditch the retro look. They can still keep some of the elements like the Mustang, but for the most part retro designs just look dated now (ya I'm aware how odd that sounds)
This is tough. What direction does a designer take when designing a Camaro? The traditional 3-box pony car shape is going to feel kinda retro even if it isn't overtly so. The facelift of the last generation (5g) Camaro pushed it out of retro territory for me, and into just kind of a handsome simple car. The pre-facelift version of the new car (6g) pushed that a little further.
Give up the 3-box shape completely and you likely end up with something unrecognizable as a Camaro. Anyone remember the 4th gens? It was certainly progressive, but also not much to say it was a Camaro.
There is kind of an inherent problem with designing legacy models: they have so much baggage. A Camaro worships at the alter of Camaro first and foremost, that's why you can't really buy one with a 4 or 6 cylinder and feel good about it, because a Camaro is supposed to have a V8. Ever dream of an AWD variant? How about a 4 door? They'll never happen because it wouldn't be very Camaroish. It may be a really great car, but it can't escape it's Camaroism. But it's worse than that, because the company can't even build something else, because they are indebted to the nameplate and it's legions of fans. While other companies are free to develop different kinds of sporty cars (provided they have the inclination and the budget) Chevy is essentially locked into perpetuating the Camaro essentially forever, and it dare not stray from the original formula either. While this may provide some level of lineup security, I'm sure there are some within the company who would have loved to put something like the code 130R into production. We got a little bit of a reprieve when the Camaro was on Hiatus, with the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice, but I don't see something like that being halfway likely now that the Camaro is back in production. The same is true with Ford & The Mustang. I would loooove for Ford to do a modern take on the Capri. I'm not even sure what that would be really, and that's the beauty of a sort-of anonymous nameplate, you don't have to serve it's Gods.
Wow I really got off on a tangent there.
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That's a good point and I didn't really think of it that way. I do agree though that it's hard to move forward from a retro design, especially trying to do it without the car ending up looking like a mess. I think MINI is a good example of this. The first gen was pretty good and the second gen was a little goofy looking but still ok, now it's a mess of a car.
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I like the new looks and I think people will get use to the SS, even though it is over the top. I'd take any of them in hard top.
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Looks GREAT from behind, but that face!
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Another good example, in a different sense, is Porsche, specifically the 911. The 911 has never disappeared, unlike the Camaro (or remained practically unchanged, like the original Mini), but the company has stayed incredibly close to the original design all these years. When it's tried to adapt the iconic features of the 911 to other vehicles, it's been... less than successful (looking at you, first-gen Cayennes and Panameras of the world).
But through tinkering and finessing, I'd say Porsche has actually produced a strong family look now that isn't so singularly defined by the 911. In fact, some of the more recent work it's done with taillights in particular now seems to be filtering back to the halo sports car (judging by leaked images) instead of the other way around.
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Never thought I would see the day when I wouldn't want a Camaro or a Mustang. The latest generations from a both are horrible looking.
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Same direction as everyone else... overdesigned mess.
That's what's in right now (apparently).
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I think the Mustang looks pretty good right now.
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